CRDi does it really live-up to its expectation?..mula inilabas yun??

[markstep128]

Hey guys! Can you tell how much do you usually spend on the maintenace of your crdis?

[rahvin]

Would the CRDi have smoke belching problems say after 10 years?

[vctradingcubao]

Hey guys! Can you tell how much do you usually spend on the maintenace of your crdis?

Experience ko, mas malaki lang gastos every oil change, kasi 1.5 to 2 liter more ata compared to the non-CRDi engine. Other than that, pareho na lang siguro lahat.
Ang tagal na nung CRDi Starex ko, 2002 pa, from the greymarket. Dun ako naging diesel lover, kasi talagang power and economy combined. You get optimum power at lower rpms kaya ang ganda talaga. Nabenta ko na nga yung 2003 CRV ko, pero yung mas lumang starex, ayaw ko talaga bitawan. Then came the D4D Fortuner, dami ko lang naririnig na problems kaya nag antay talaga ako na magkaron ng CRDi na AUV/SUV, at nung lumabas nga yung CRDi na everest, kumuha na ko, and it's definitely worth the wait.
IMHO, kung gusto ng isuzu ma dominate ang AUV market, dapat maglabas na sila ng CRDi engine para sa crosswind, at an affordable price of less than 1M, kaya naman yan siguro. For sure, papatok ng husto yan, and it will bring really great sales to Isuzu. Ang kaso, bagal nila eh, pati na rin yung Nissan. Imagine, sobrang mahal na Patrol, old school na non-CRDi engine!

[rion]

Yes, I think BOSCH technology is better than Denso.

while browsing Pinoy HandyMan. I saw one article saying that, some CRDI have problems because of poor diesel quality?

http://www.pinoyhandyman.com/diesel-...engines-4.html

[vctradingcubao]

Yes, I think BOSCH technology is better than Denso.

Bosch ba gamit ng Hyundai? Ano kaya gamit ng Ford? Me natandaan ako nabasa dati na Denso gamit ng Toyota.

[louchua]

Experience ko, mas malaki lang gastos every oil change, kasi 1.5 to 2 liter more ata compared to the non-CRDi
IMHO, kung gusto ng isuzu ma dominate ang AUV market, dapat maglabas na sila ng CRDi engine para sa crosswind, at an affordable price of less than 1M, kaya naman yan siguro. For sure, papatok ng husto yan, and it will bring really great sales to Isuzu. Ang kaso, bagal nila eh, pati na rin yung Nissan. Imagine, sobrang mahal na Patrol, old school na non-CRDi engine!

i agree with you sir.. matagal ko na rin sinasabi ito. Isuzu should definitely upgrade their Crosswind to CrDi. If and when they do, magkakaroon na ng matinding kalaban ang Innova. It's a good thing that they finally decided to upgrade the Dmax to Crdi, at least now up to par na siya with other pickups and I must say, ang laki talaga ng difference dun sa luma. Altought about the Patrol, I'm pretty sure that the new one (super Safari Edition) is already a CrDi. My friend just got one and it's very very powerful. Medyo matagtag nga lang for an SUV.

[kyle618]

the first crdi vehicle that i was able to drive was the new Everest at the world trade center. i used to hate diesels for the freakin clatter and the slow ass acceleration (for example, my grandma's hilander and old liteace). parang nakakapagod sobra mag drive ng diesels kasi parang hirap na hirap but damn the new crdi equipped everest is a lot more quiet and the torque is just fantastic. yes, may clatter pa rin pero sobrang laki ng improvement over the old non-crdi engines. Even with the same fuel consumption or kahit mas worse pa yun crdi (which is not true) id still get the crdi kasi iba yun comfort and quietness. from now on the only diesels id drive are the crdi ones.

[jeanpierre]

Bosch ba gamit ng Hyundai? Ano kaya gamit ng Ford? Me natandaan ako nabasa dati na Denso gamit ng Toyota.

Hyundai at KIA Bosch ang gamit.

[rion]

Hyundai, Kia, Isuzu use Bosch

Ford Focus 1.8D TDdi BHD/AB use Bosch too. I believe Bosch din ang gamit nila sa ibang Ford Vehicles.

sana nag Bosch nalang Mitsu at Toyota noh?

[louchua]

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[louchua]

ano ba gamit ng mitsu at toyota? toyota alam ko Denso right? eh mitsu same?

[rion]

while searching in autodata. Mitsubishi is using Bosch too.

akala ko Denso din sila kasi I see a number of Denso parts like the Intercooler. looks like I was wrong, I also notice multi brand pala ang mitsu. aside from Denso, Bosch, they also use Solex/Dellorto, Aisan, Zexel...

medyo ot na tayo... :lol:

[alwayz_yummy]

pangarap ko magpalit to kahit 2kd-ftv lang......pero kung mura lang at kakasya, 1kd-ftv na! gusto ko kasi straight toyota parin, kahit mas gusto ko ang 4m41 or yd-25 neo-di ng nissan...

[usokpower]

CRDi - Common Rail Direct Injection
(history: 1994 Fiat Group collaborated with R. Bosch to enhance and complete injection systems for diesel engines -outcome: CRDi)

Ito ang bragging nila noon ng sumikat yun ng 2005 compared to conventional diesel engine:

>>> 30% more powerful

>>> 70% more torque ..... (aha!!)

>>> Lower fuel consumption 30-35% more mileage..... (24km/L daw CRDi)

>>> High fuel effeciency

>>> Improvement in drive quality (malabo 'to)

>>> Far quieter due to its hydraulic accumulator or "rail" that reduced noise, vibration and harshness (NVH) and i qoute "more than matches that of a gasoline engine".

bottom line: ITS FAST, QUIET AND ECONOMICAL

well, is this so????..after sometime in the road now dito sa atin??

Yes, the CRDI lived up to my expectations. we have a 96 Mitsu L200 and a 4x2 hilux with a 2.5litre D4D.

The hilux is definitely faster both in acceleration and top speed. I get an average fuel consumption of 11-13km/litre which is better than the L200s 9-10km/litre. Plus, the noticeable improvements the CRDI has to offer is a smoother drive and a much quiet engine.

But even if the CRDI made such improvements a diesel engine will always be a diesel engine. Matagal uminit mabilis lumamig and the takatakatak sound is still there though its not as audible as the old diesel engine. After driving diesel powered pick ups for the past 11 years I can still sense its diesel behavior despite the CRDI.

Its really plain stupidity to expect it to behave 100% like a petrol powered car. Although some CRDi vehicles like the ford focus can outrun a 99 civic vti. Its still diesel.

[numbah5]

Bosch ba gamit ng Hyundai? Ano kaya gamit ng Ford? Me natandaan ako nabasa dati na Denso gamit ng Toyota.

Hyundai, Kia, BMW, Volkswagen and Audi uses Bosch CRDi. Ford uses Bosch CRDi for the Focus, Jaguar vehicles, Mazda vehicles, Land Rover vehicles, and other Euro market vehicles; while for the Ranger and Everest, they use VM Motori's CRDi. For the SuperDuty pick-ups, they use Navistar's CRDi system under the PowerStroke name. I think maybe they are going to use Bosch's CRDi for the upcoming Expedition CRDi.

ano ba gamit ng mitsu at toyota? toyota alam ko Denso right? eh mitsu same?

while searching in autodata. Mitsubishi is using Bosch too.

akala ko Denso din sila kasi I see a number of Denso parts like the Intercooler. looks like I was wrong, I also notice multi brand pala ang mitsu. aside from Denso, Bosch, they also use Solex/Dellorto, Aisan, Zexel...

medyo ot na tayo... :lol:

Toyota uses Denso CRDi in the IMV vehicles, Euro market Prado and the Hiace, because those CRDi's still have solenoid injectors. I think they are using Bosch in their other Euro market vehicles because the D4-D 280 uses piezo injectors, thus making the 2.2 L engine having a peak power of 170 ps and a peak torque of 400 Nm. So even Denso is a Toyota subsidiary, Toyota still partners with Bosch to make their CRDi system.

Mitsubishi, uses Denso CRDi for the 4D56 and 4M41 engines. For the other DI-D engines borrowed from Volkswagen, they use Bosch CRDi.

[dbuzz]

Paala-ala lang po!!

Hypodermic injection injury hazard
Because many diesel engine fuel injection systems operate at extremely high pressure, there is a risk of injury by hypodermic injection of fuel, if the fuel injector is removed from its seat and operated in open air. High pressure – up to 2,000 bar (200 MPa, 29,000 psi)..whweww di biro 'to..

[hominid]

while browsing Pinoy HandyMan. I saw one article saying that, some CRDI have problems because of poor diesel quality?

http://www.pinoyhandyman.com/diesel-...engines-4.html

Just what I read(no plugging), Hyundai CRDi owners are generally adviced to fuel with Shell and avoid Petron. Even tho in some places these companies get from similar depos, the differ in how they filter their products.

[hominid]

Ang 07 Adventure 4d56 po ba CRDi na?

[dbuzz]

Ang 07 Adventure 4d56 po ba CRDi na?

Dito nabanggit lang ang "DI-D" sa mitsubishi kaya kung ang 4d56 ay DI-D well, iisa din yata yun but we should wait for an expert comment on this.

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• [SIZE=3]Honda[/SIZE][SIZE=3]'s i-CTDi [/SIZE]
• [SIZE=3]Hyundai-Kia[/SIZE][SIZE=3]'s CRDi [/SIZE]
• [SIZE=3]Ford Motor Company[/SIZE][SIZE=3]'s TDCi Duratorq and PowerStroke [/SIZE]
• [SIZE=3]Renault[/SIZE][SIZE=3]'s dCi [/SIZE]
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• [SIZE=3]GM Daewoo[/SIZE][SIZE=3]'s/[/SIZE][SIZE=3]Chevrolet[/SIZE][SIZE=3]'s VCDi (licensed from [/SIZE][SIZE=3]VM Motori[/SIZE][SIZE=3]; also branded as Ecotec CDTi) [/SIZE]
• [SIZE=3]Mitsubishi[/SIZE][SIZE=3]'s DI-D [/SIZE]
• [SIZE=3]PSA Peugeot Citroën[/SIZE][SIZE=3]'s HDI or HDi (Volvo S40/V50 uses engines from PSA 1,6D & 2,0D.) [/SIZE]
• [SIZE=3]SsangYong[/SIZE][SIZE=3]'s XDi (most of these engines are manufactured by [/SIZE][SIZE=3]DaimlerChrysler[/SIZE][SIZE=3]) [/SIZE]
• [SIZE=3]Volkswagen Group[/SIZE][SIZE=3]'s TDi [/SIZE]
• [SIZE=3]Toyota[/SIZE][SIZE=3]'s D-4D [/SIZE]
• [SIZE=3]Nissan[/SIZE][SIZE=3]'s NEO-Di [/SIZE]
• [SIZE=3]Mazda[/SIZE][SIZE=3]'s CiTD [/SIZE]
• [SIZE=3]Tata[/SIZE][SIZE=3]'s DICOR [/SIZE]
• [SIZE=3]Mahindra[/SIZE][SIZE=3]'s CRDe [/SIZE]
• [SIZE=3]Maruti Udyog[/SIZE][SIZE=3]'s DDiS (Manufactured under license from [/SIZE][SIZE=3]Fiat[/SIZE][SIZE=3]) [/SIZE]

[OTEP]

Nope the Adventure is not CRDi just like the L300VV and L300FB. The Strada 4d56 is the one with a CRDi system.