Bad oil filters

[ninjababez]

Would be interesting to know how you came up to that conclusion.

eto yun testing na ginawa bro

Good Oil Filter and Oil

[oj88]

As with anything, some works better than others.

IMO.... again, my opinion. I think the ADBV works best with the filter mounted vertically or near-vertical, with the thread at the bottom. Gravity will pull the oil down and force the ADBV closed. With the filter mounted horizontally, there's less force applied in closing the ADBV, so expect some oil to seep back out the inlet holes.

Also, oil permeates through the filter media and if you remove the filter, oil will leak out the outlet port. That's normal.

And last thing, the oil typically flows as such....

Sump > pump > filter > oil galleries > moving parts > sump

When you turn off the engine, oil left in the galleries, moving parts, and most internal engine surfaces, flows back to the sump. That's the reason you get a higher dipstick reading when the engine has not been running for a while. The "extra" oil did not all come from the oil filter.

[ninjababez]

As with anything, some works better than others.

IMO.... again, my opinion. I think the ADBV works best with the filter mounted vertically or near-vertical, with the thread at the bottom. Gravity will pull the oil down and force the ADBV closed. With the filter mounted horizontally, there's less force applied in closing the ADBV, so expect some oil to seep back out the inlet holes.

Also, oil permeates through the filter media and if you remove the filter, oil will leak out the outlet port. That's normal.

And last thing, the oil typically flows as such....

Sump > pump > filter > oil galleries > moving parts > sump

When you turn off the engine, oil left in the galleries, moving parts, and most internal engine surfaces, flows back to the sump. That's the reason you get a higher dipstick reading when the engine has not been running for a while. The "extra" oil did not all come from the oil filter.

bro ibig sabihin nagkamali assessment si waldnerdoe?
medyo naparanoid din kasi ako sa post nya kasi last year gumamit din ako nung brand na yun for my vios

[dr. d]

i am wondering,
if the oil filter draining issue is a significant one,
why don't car manufacturers design engines with oil filters mounted vertically, with the thread up?
that should solve dry-filter syndrome.

[oj88]

i am wondering,
if the oil filter draining issue is a significant one,
why don't car manufacturers design engines with oil filters mounted vertically, with the thread up?
that should solve dry-filter syndrome.

Good question. There are a lot vehicles that employs that design. Most Hondas do that.

But if I were to take a stab at as to why not all engines are like that, I guess it all comes down to engineering, design and cost, among others.

When manufacturing at scale, component placement and orientation has a price tag attached to it. It's not uncommon for the bean counters during an engine's R&D to veto the engineers' wishes and put this and that part a certain way so it will cost less to make. So, it's not hard to imagine that they'd sooner orient an oil filter upside down or sideways because doing it the right way will require a bit more plumbing (read: expense). Whereas using a filter with just a little ol' silicone ADBV would cost much, much less.

[dr. d]

Good question. There are a lot vehicles that employs that design. Most Hondas do that.

But if I were to take a stab at as to why not all engines are like that, I guess it all comes down to engineering, design and cost, among others.

When manufacturing at scale, component placement and orientation has a price tag attached to it. It's not uncommon for the bean counters during an engine's R&D to veto the engineers' wishes and put this and that part a certain way so it will cost less to make. So, it's not hard to imagine that they'd sooner orient an oil filter upside down or sideways because doing it the right way will require a bit more plumbing (read: expense). Whereas using a filter with just a little ol' silicone ADBV would cost much, much less.

ah yess...
there was this manufacturer that vetoed putting front stabilizers on its car.
as a result, "the car wallowed like a pig when cornering", which, they felt, contributed to poor sales.
they attempted to remedy it, but by then, the car was dead in the sales charts because of other issues.

OT.

[_Cathy_]

basta ako baldwin the best I have brand loyalty basta na impress ako sa product so Amaron for batteries and Baldwin for oil filters hehe

[oj88]

bro ibig sabihin nagkamali assessment si waldnerdoe?
medyo naparanoid din kasi ako sa post nya kasi last year gumamit din ako nung brand na yun for my vios

I have no experience with that oil filter.

Anyway, ganito lang yan.... oil filters are relatively cheap. If you're not confident with one brand/model, you can try a different one and see if it works better for you. But you should adhere to two things: The oil filter must be from a reputable brand...not to mention, genuine. 2nd, it should be designed or compatible to your vehicle.

Personally, I'm satisfied with Wix for my 2.5 Innova Diesel. They're a reputable brand and many reviewers online who have cut them open gave it good grades. Though, I must admit that haven't gone through the actual testing myself but then again, if these oil filters were anything but good, we would've heard something about them causing engine failures. But I have seen none of those so far.

[ninjababez]

I have no experience with that oil filter.

Anyway, ganito lang yan.... oil filters are relatively cheap. If you're not confident with one brand/model, you can try a different one and see if it works better for you. But you should adhere to two things: The oil filter must be from a reputable brand...not to mention, genuine. 2nd, it should be designed or compatible to your vehicle.

Personally, I'm satisfied with Wix for my 2.5 Innova Diesel. They're a reputable brand and many reviewers online who have cut them open gave it good grades. Though, I must admit that haven't gone through the actual testing myself but then again, if these oil filters were anything but good, we would've heard something about them causing engine failures. But I have seen none of those so far.

thanks bro!
wix na yun na order ko from bro crazy_boy good for 1 year (3 pcs) hehehe
if di ako nakakakuha ng filter from bro cb, OEM binibili ko from casa para sure din

[waldnerdoe]

I used vic oil filter before and i check the dipstick it is within the maximum level while in the asakashi it goes beyong the maximum. I also test the js asakashi filter by putting oil on it the have it positioned horizontally and the oil comes out the adbv. While in my old isuzu filter the oil doesn't come out. This is just for your reference with regards said brand. I haven't tested the vic filter coz it was immediately thrown away.

[waldnerdoe]

I purchased the filter in lazada under f2 auto parts