Bad oil filters

[waldnerdoe]

I had an experienced with js asakashi c-0076 installed on my mux 2017 2.5 mt 4jk1-tc. The anti drain back valve (ADBV) did not work, the oil in the filter will go back to the sump after resting for 8 hours. The oil filter is horizontally installed in the engine. For your info mga bossing.

[dr. d]

I had an experienced with js asakashi c-0076 installed on my mux 2017 2.5 mt 4jk1-tc. The anti drain back valve (ADBV) did not work, the oil in the filter will go back to the sump after resting for 8 hours. The oil filter is horizontally installed in the engine. For your info mga bossing.

have you been using this particular brand/model for long?
san nyo po nabili?
is it possible, you are using a fake item?

[ninjababez]

have you been using this particular brand/model for long?
san nyo po nabili?
is it possible, you are using a fake item?

worry ko baka OK naman yung brand, pero rep nung kalaban na brand

https://www.tsikot.com/forums/search...rchid=10948411

[oj88]

I had an experienced with js asakashi c-0076 installed on my mux 2017 2.5 mt 4jk1-tc. The anti drain back valve (ADBV) did not work, the oil in the filter will go back to the sump after resting for 8 hours. The oil filter is horizontally installed in the engine. For your info mga bossing.

Would be interesting to know how you came up to that conclusion.

[ninjababez]

Would be interesting to know how you came up to that conclusion.

eto yun testing na ginawa bro

Good Oil Filter and Oil

[oj88]

As with anything, some works better than others.

IMO.... again, my opinion. I think the ADBV works best with the filter mounted vertically or near-vertical, with the thread at the bottom. Gravity will pull the oil down and force the ADBV closed. With the filter mounted horizontally, there's less force applied in closing the ADBV, so expect some oil to seep back out the inlet holes.

Also, oil permeates through the filter media and if you remove the filter, oil will leak out the outlet port. That's normal.

And last thing, the oil typically flows as such....

Sump > pump > filter > oil galleries > moving parts > sump

When you turn off the engine, oil left in the galleries, moving parts, and most internal engine surfaces, flows back to the sump. That's the reason you get a higher dipstick reading when the engine has not been running for a while. The "extra" oil did not all come from the oil filter.

[ninjababez]

As with anything, some works better than others.

IMO.... again, my opinion. I think the ADBV works best with the filter mounted vertically or near-vertical, with the thread at the bottom. Gravity will pull the oil down and force the ADBV closed. With the filter mounted horizontally, there's less force applied in closing the ADBV, so expect some oil to seep back out the inlet holes.

Also, oil permeates through the filter media and if you remove the filter, oil will leak out the outlet port. That's normal.

And last thing, the oil typically flows as such....

Sump > pump > filter > oil galleries > moving parts > sump

When you turn off the engine, oil left in the galleries, moving parts, and most internal engine surfaces, flows back to the sump. That's the reason you get a higher dipstick reading when the engine has not been running for a while. The "extra" oil did not all come from the oil filter.

bro ibig sabihin nagkamali assessment si waldnerdoe?
medyo naparanoid din kasi ako sa post nya kasi last year gumamit din ako nung brand na yun for my vios

[dr. d]

i am wondering,
if the oil filter draining issue is a significant one,
why don't car manufacturers design engines with oil filters mounted vertically, with the thread up?
that should solve dry-filter syndrome.

[oj88]

bro ibig sabihin nagkamali assessment si waldnerdoe?
medyo naparanoid din kasi ako sa post nya kasi last year gumamit din ako nung brand na yun for my vios

I have no experience with that oil filter.

Anyway, ganito lang yan.... oil filters are relatively cheap. If you're not confident with one brand/model, you can try a different one and see if it works better for you. But you should adhere to two things: The oil filter must be from a reputable brand...not to mention, genuine. 2nd, it should be designed or compatible to your vehicle.

Personally, I'm satisfied with Wix for my 2.5 Innova Diesel. They're a reputable brand and many reviewers online who have cut them open gave it good grades. Though, I must admit that haven't gone through the actual testing myself but then again, if these oil filters were anything but good, we would've heard something about them causing engine failures. But I have seen none of those so far.

[JapanABC]

I had an experienced with js asakashi c-0076 installed on my mux 2017 2.5 mt 4jk1-tc. The anti drain back valve (ADBV) did not work, the oil in the filter will go back to the sump after resting for 8 hours. The oil filter is horizontally installed in the engine. For your info mga bossing.

There is a possibility thay you may have encountered a defective filter if that's the case. Since one of the official distributors of VIC filters is already carrying JS Asakashi filters as well. So I doubt that one defective filter damages the whole brand besides JS Asakashi filter is also sold in Australia, Russia, Singapore, Malaysia, Sri Lanka, Brunei and etc... if they are a bad quality filter then other countries will not buy their product. If one the offical VIC filter distributor is shifting on selling JS Asakashi filters then that signals something about VIC filters. Do you have any proof of testing about what your saying is true? It's hard to believe in just hearsays of a new member without testing evidences, proper facts and examinations. Do you have any proof of testing about what your saying is true? It's hard to believe in just hearsays of a new member without testing evidences, proper facts and examinations.

There is a video online showing a testing of Dai-wa, VIC and JS Asakashi oil filters.

Dai-wa, VIC & JS Asakashi oil filter pressure test 2020 - YouTube

[JapanABC]

By the way guys I found videos of air filters on Youtube, they tested the filtration capabilities of K&N, BMG, WIX, Purolator and etc... and the myths of K&N, BMG and other washable filters have been finally debunked. Here are the testing videos about O.E. vs. washable performance filters.

The tests shows that bigger micron flour, sand and iron dusts can pass through more on the washable performance filters with the oil applied on them than standard O.E. type filters. What more for the smaller sized particles like fine particles from electric powerplants, factories, cement dusts, brake dusts and etc... it will wear the engine faster than its normal life.

1st video by Project Farm
Which Car Air Filter is Best? Let's find out! Fram, K&N, Wix, Purolator, & AC Delco showdown - YouTube

2nd video by bhvrdr
Do performance air filters like BMC, K&N, Sprint let more sand and dust than OEM and is it worth it? - YouTube

[JapanABC]

I had an experienced with js asakashi c-0076 installed on my mux 2017 2.5 mt 4jk1-tc. The anti drain back valve (ADBV) did not work, the oil in the filter will go back to the sump after resting for 8 hours. The oil filter is horizontally installed in the engine. For your info mga bossing.

I'm also curious on what kind of measures did you determine that the oil filter ADBV is leaking, did you hold it horizontally, vertically & etc...?

[waldnerdoe]

I'm also curious on what kind of measures did you determine that the oil filter ADBV is leaking, did you hold it horizontally, vertically & etc...?

Watch this oil filter anti drain back valve - YouTube oil filter anti drain back valve - YouTube

[Dr.Kamiya]

Watch this oil filter anti drain back valve - YouTube oil filter anti drain back valve - YouTube

That's not a valid test of the adbv's performance. Dapat vertical yung orientation ng filter, same as it would be when installed. The adbv is usually a simple plastic or rubber membrane that falls to the bottom of the filter to block the holes using gravity and the weight of the oil itself to hold it there. If you hold it 90 degrees horizontal then the adbv won't necessarily mate to the surface.

adbv is piece #4 in this diagram. how it works should be obvious, as is the bad methodology of the test in those videos.

[waldnerdoe]

That's not a valid test of the adbv's performance. Dapat vertical yung orientation ng filter, same as it would be when installed. The adbv is usually a simple plastic or rubber membrane that falls to the bottom of the filter to block the holes using gravity and the weight of the oil itself to hold it there. If you hold it 90 degrees horizontal then the adbv won't necessarily mate to the surface.

adbv is piece #4 in this diagram. how it works should be obvious, as is the bad methodology of the test in those videos.

These filters were designed to be installed horizontally on the 4jk1-tc engine... try to look at the first gen isuzu mux 2.5

[dr. d]

i am curious,
after an overnight's sleep,
will the better ADBV-equipped oil filter still have significant volume of oil inside it?

[Dr.Kamiya]

These filters were designed to be installed horizontally on the 4jk1-tc engine... try to look at the first gen isuzu mux 2.5

That's the engine where the filter is installed from underneath the car right? In that case with the oil filter mounted so low the adbv should be making very little difference.
The oil filter is already near or at the lowest part of that section of the car and there's nowhere for the oil to flow downward from the filter without being pulled upward by the pump.

[JapanABC]

Watch this oil filter anti drain back valve - YouTube oil filter anti drain back valve - YouTube

I'm afraid sir this has totally discredit you for supplying false information on this forums. You have taught a lot of people here in this forum the incorrect ways of testing an oil filter.

[waldnerdoe]

That's not a valid test of the adbv's performance. Dapat vertical yung orientation ng filter, same as it would be when installed. The adbv is usually a simple plastic or rubber membrane that falls to the bottom of the filter to block the holes using gravity and the weight of the oil itself to hold it there. If you hold it 90 degrees horizontal then the adbv won't necessarily mate to the surface.

adbv is piece #4 in this diagram. how it works should be obvious, as is the bad methodology of the test in those videos.

I'm afraid sir this has totally discredit you for supplying false information on this forums. You have taught a lot of people here in this forum the incorrect ways of testing an oil filter.

Hello sir, i am not trying to discredit the manufacturer or supplying false information. I am just trying to show my experience with regards to the oil filter and for the members to see the adbv difference between vic and js asakashi. This filter may be defective. If you want i can send you a new js asakashi oil filter coz i still have two pcs in my custody.

[waldnerdoe]

I'm afraid sir this has totally discredit you for supplying false information on this forums. You have taught a lot of people here in this forum the incorrect ways of testing an oil filter.

hello sir, where is the false info that i posted?