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    #2221
    Quote Originally Posted by bugsmobile View Post
    Wow tagal ng Amaron niyo! Bought my Amaron I think 2021 then a month before expiration of warranty, namatay kay the replaced it with a new one last Aug 2022. Then now it’s staring to act up again. Hindi na daw nila papalitian even if before warranty expires kasi replacement daw.


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    Almost 8 yrs sakin. Baka car mo yung problema. Just kidding [emoji14]

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    #2222
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Almost 8 yrs sakin. Baka car mo yung problema. Just kidding [emoji14]

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    Wow 8 yrs? Haha baka nga malakas mag ubos nga battery ang Mazda hehe. Even if sakin is yung 1.5 lang, yung walang istop. Parang haven’t heard sa group na may umaabot ng 6-8yrd life ng battery sa Amin.


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    #2223
    Quote Originally Posted by bugsmobile View Post
    Wow tagal ng Amaron niyo! Bought my Amaron I think 2021 then a month before expiration of warranty, namatay kay the replaced it with a new one last Aug 2022. Then now it’s staring to act up again. Hindi na daw nila papalitian even if before warranty expires kasi replacement daw.


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    that is how many warranties work, po.
    they will replace a defective product that is still under warranty,
    but the warranty of the new one is simply the completion of the warranty of the original product.

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    #2224
    Old low-tech cars are gentle on batteries!

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    #2225
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    Old low-tech cars are gentle on batteries!
    ... i'm not sure,
    is it the cars, or is it the batteries?

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    #2226
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    Old low-tech cars are gentle on batteries!
    Aren't newer Hi-Tech cars supposed to be more "gentle" on batteries?

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    Last edited by baludoy; March 3rd, 2024 at 09:57 AM.

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    #2227
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    Aren't newer Hi-Tech cars supposed to be more "gentle" on batteries?

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    Maybe because maraming vampire accessories ang hi tech

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    #2228
    new cars have sleep mode. also have BCM, old cars have lights and stuff hardwired so if you leave the cabin light on it'll drain the battery on newer cars the BCM will turn off the lights after some time

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    #2229
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    Aren't newer Hi-Tech cars supposed to be more "gentle" on batteries?

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    In theory yes? But from my own admittedly anecdotal experience my newer cars tend to kill batteries faster than my pre-2010s cars.

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    #2230
    one possibility,
    it's not the cars, but the batteries.
    more batteries now are of the maintenance-free or less-maintenance designs.
    their electrolyte levels are not as easy to see and not as easy to refill...
    gone are the days when car owners would regularly peer into their batteries' innards to examine the fluid levels, and add additional fluid when necessary.
    i imagine, many batteries now are prematurely dying because they dry up.

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    #2231
    Some tech on new cars din ang culprit for the battery degradation.
    My unit has red light turned on sa my side ng driver door if I opened the door.
    That alone will eat up some juice of the battery.

    Also, when unlocking the door, it will automatically turned ON the display gauge with a chimed sound even if hindi pa turned ON ang makina.
    Including yung light indicator ng mga important buttons sa loob.
    So kaya cgro hindi umabot 3 yrs stock battery ng unit ko.

    Yung annoying lang sa unit ko is one of our family members forgot to close the glove compartment box.
    Automatically mag turned ON yung light sa my glove box if nakabukas.
    They forgot to close it sometimes, magdamag naka turned ON ang light which will definitely eat up some battery juice.

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    #2232
    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    new cars have sleep mode. also have BCM, old cars have lights and stuff hardwired so if you leave the cabin light on it'll drain the battery on newer cars the BCM will turn off the lights after some time
    Many cars activate sleep mode ONLY when vehicle is locked ... if you leave vehicle unlocked then you'll have more parasitic draw ...

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    #2233
    Also remember to check if you can "turn off" spare keys of your vehicle ... especially ones that have keyless lock/unlock feature ...

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    #2234
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Also remember to check if you can "turn off" spare keys of your vehicle ... especially ones that have keyless lock/unlock feature ...
    Pwd pala to.
    Ginagawa ko lang is switch keys every month para hindi mag rust yung sa battery pag di ginagamit.
    I haven't read in the manual yet that we can turn off spare keys.

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    #2235
    today's lithium button batteries can last 5 years or more. some even say 10 years. a far cry from the non-lithiums of olde.
    photographers were one of the first beneficiaries of these long-lasting batteries, what with their habit of keeping camera equipment full of batteries for long periods of time, in their bags.

    i do not know if using disposable lithium batteries from time to time, has any significant effect on their... relative longevity,
    compared to if they were to simply hang there, unused.

    non-lithium batteries, however, their shelf life is significantly shorter. 1, 2, mebbe 3 years?
    this is from personal experience. on googling, there seems to be a wide range being quoted.
    Last edited by dr. d; March 4th, 2024 at 11:13 AM.

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    #2236
    Back in the day, the Nokia 5110 (arguably the GSM phone that started the phone personalization era) had a battery life of about a week of typical use. Otherwise, it will only last a 'measly' 3 days if used heavily, like playing Snake every time you're bored. That was because it was hardly drawing anything while on standby.

    This analogy applies pretty much to cars of yore compared to modern ones that could have between 5 to 150 computer modules or sub-systems. Each will draw a miniscule amount of current (quiescent current) even when inactive or in sleep mode. Some are easily woken up (or are always partially awake) like security systems, the proximity system for keyless entry, remote start, etc. Add to that any 3rd party accessories that are designed to have a dedicated B+ connection like audio amplifiers, standalone entertainment systems, etc.

    That said, it has become somewhat necessary to maintain the battery at full/float charge when not in use for more than a day or two. This practice has worked for me but as always, YMMV.

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    #2237
    Quote Originally Posted by carxynogen View Post
    Magkano po ba investment natin nyan at ano ma recommend nyo po?
    Ma try nga to if effective ba.
    My stock battery only lasted 2.5 yrs.
    Sayang lumampas sa warranty, how I wish it was dead before 2 yrs para ma replacean ng bago ng CASA.
    Boss oj88, pabulong naman nito ano gamit nyo or if may link kayo sa item.

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    #2238
    Quote Originally Posted by carxynogen View Post
    Boss oj88, pabulong naman nito ano gamit nyo or if may link kayo sa item.
    Battery maintainer ba?

    Choose your poison from Laz or Shopee. Just look for one that explicitly has the float-charge mode.

    I use this to maintain the small 12V battery on my backup generator: LST Automatic 12V 750mA Trickle Battery Charger Smart Float Charger Maintainer for Car Motorcycle Lawn Mower Tractor

    I use this on my Innova 2.5L Diesel: LST 12V 1.1A Car Battery Trickle Charger Maintainer 4-Stage Smart Float Charger For Car Motorcycle Lawn Acid Batteries

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    #2239
    Quote Originally Posted by carxynogen View Post
    Pwd pala to.
    Ginagawa ko lang is switch keys every month para hindi mag rust yung sa battery pag di ginagamit.
    I haven't read in the manual yet that we can turn off spare keys.
    Sometimes it's not indicated in manual ... search about it online ...

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    #2240
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Many cars activate sleep mode ONLY when vehicle is locked ... if you leave vehicle unlocked then you'll have more parasitic draw ...

    just checked the jimny, hasn't been used for a few days, just sitting in the garage unlocked, doors slightly open. it's in sleep mode, cabin light won't turn on

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