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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by ROAA STUDIO View Post
    tanong na din sir yung mga gasoline/diesel engines......pwede po ba iconvert.....na maging electric powered engines....?
    Converting a gasoline/diesel vehicle to electric... In a word, yes. But it would take a bit of planning and some money as well.

    There are a few people in the USA who do electric conversions for diesel/gasoline fueled cars. They remove everything that is related to the gasoline/diesel engine including the engine, exhaust, fuel tank, etc. They fabricate an adapter plate to match the original transmission to the new electric motor. Battery trays are made to hold the batteries in the trunk and front of the car.

    Electric pumps are installed to replace the original systems powering the power steering and brake booster. An electric power controller is installed and wired to the motor, battery packs and charging port.

    After that, the car will be fully electric but the range will still be limited typically within 70-100 km per charge (more or less depending on how light or heavy the vehicle).

    BTW, there is no mention how they did A/C conversion. It's possible they didn't because the shop which did the demo was located in California which is known for mild weather temperatures year round.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; February 17th, 2009 at 02:56 PM.

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    #22
    mga sir

    maraming salamat po sa info....

    sabi po nila pag electric daw less pollution........

    climate friendly

    siguro po matatagalan pa ang mga murang electric powered vehicles dto po sa atin(pinas).....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROAA STUDIO View Post
    sabi po nila pag electric daw less pollution...
    Not necessarily true. The electricity has to come from somewhere. If the powerplant generating it is causing pollution, then it's still the same, just moved from the tail pipe to the smoke stack.

    climate friendly
    Same reason stated above.

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    #24
    salamt po sir

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    salamat po sir

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    #26
    wow andami kong natutunan about this thread jejeje

    O.T. lang po, last year 2008 after ng Asian economic summit d2 sa Japan,invited d2 lahat ng rich countries including countries from middle east,nagpakitang gilas ang mga hapon about their hybrid & full-automated electric cars to be mass produce next year... after the summit a week later sunod-sunod na ang pagbaba ng gas at diesel,kc sumabay pa dati ang mga naglalabasang electric cars and gadgets invented both foreign and domestic...

    now nagsubside na ang mga inventions,ang iba nabayaran na yata ng mga arabo! heto patuloy na naman po ang pagtaas ng gaso huhuhu

    share ko lang po,cheers!

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    #27
    sir opinyon lang po sana ma bigyan ng importansiya ng govt natin ang electric powered cars..... incentive or kung ano ano pa...dahil makakatulong din po ito ....

    sa ngayon nga po pataas na naman po ang presyo ng gasolina/diesel....

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by khazpert View Post
    now nagsubside na ang mga inventions,ang iba nabayaran na yata ng mga arabo! heto patuloy na naman po ang pagtaas ng gaso huhuhu

    share ko lang po,cheers!
    Errh... for oil company bribes to have that effect, all these inventors and producers would have to be greedy pigs with a short-sighted view on business... would you say every single one of them is?

    The simple answer is: when gas prices went down, the market for electric cars and hybrids collapsed. It's even worse now that we're in a recession... nobody wants to spend on brand new cars, especially those that are extremely expensive compared to their gasoline and diesel counterparts.

    Take the REVAi. The local distributorship has been working on the project for three to four years, already... and they still haven't reached the point where they're delivering units to the public. Nobody's willing to put out 700-900k pesos on an electric car that has the same amenities as a 300-400k peso gasoline car.

    Heck... even the cheaper ones, like the G-Car, were stillborn. There's no market out there for mass-produced electrics... especially not electrics that can't go faster than 40 km/h and aren't legal on the highways.

    If the government were to subsidize electrics, they'd still be subsidizing cars for rich people... like the Prius and Insight, which, even with tax breaks, would cost as much as diesel SUVs. That's really not going to help get the lower class escape oil dependency or help reduce pollution in this country by any significant margin.

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    We can all dream, but when it comes to dollars and cents, electric cars don't work... not yet. Even with the cheapest batteries, costs are prohibitive, and with batteries that would give them range and power comparable to gasoline cars, the costs go through the roof. An electric car with the same range and power as... say... a 1.3 liter Honda City would cost over 2 million pesos... and you would still need a dedicated high voltage socket to plug it into at home.

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    If you really want an electric car... andami na diyan. There are several groups selling electric vehicles in the country, for prices from 350,000 to 900,000. If you can envision yourself spending 350k on an electric vehicle that goes only 40kmh, has no roof or doors and no AC... well... go ahead...

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    EDIT: double post.

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    As an addendum... the big problem, really, is the batteries... as romski has said in regards to their e-Jeep somewhere, the battery pack is about 1/4th to 1/3rd the cost of the whole vehicle... and those are short-range batteries that are pretty heavy. For batteries that can run the vehicle moderate distances and don't weigh as much as a truck, you might be looking at a bill of about 200,000 - 500,000 pesos.
    Last edited by niky; June 16th, 2009 at 05:06 PM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    The best we can hope is for surplus imports of used cars such as the Honda Civic EMA (electric motor assist) which have been sold in other countries for a while now.

    Technically it's not a hybrid car but it has a small engine (1.2L) with an electric motor/generator which aids in acceleration and generates electricity when braking and charges a battery in the trunk. It also has a feature where the engine is shut down when you stop at an intersection and automatically starts the engine when you are ready to go.

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