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[Egan101]

New 1.5L turbo engine!!!


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[EQAddict]

Thats more power than the bmw E46 323i (not 325) which had a inline 6 2.5 liter good for 165 hp and it had a 6 speed steptronic transmission. That was my first euro car. Was plenty fast.



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[coiter]

New 1.5L turbo engine!!!


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so malamang that will make its way to the okavango and azkarra since they share the same engine

[hardwang]

I wonder why they didn't put proper 4 cylinders in the first place... Gagawin naman din pala nila in the future.

[Egan101]

I wonder why they didn't put proper 4 cylinders in the first place... Gagawin naman din pala nila in the future.

Yun ang trend sa Europe. Geely bought Volvo. BMW and Ford have also started using 3-cylinder 1.5L turbo engines.

Nothing wrong with 3 cylinders. Much like how some thought that 4 cylinders were not good back in the 80s.


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[AG4]

I wonder why they didn't put proper 4 cylinders in the first place... Gagawin naman din pala nila in the future.

Using Volvo-based engines like the 3-cylinder 1.5 turbo found in the current Coolray is the fastest way for Geely to have a modern engine. This was the latest small displacement engine architecture available at the time.

Traditionaly, 3-cylinder engines tend to be more fuel efficient than 4-cylinder engines because of less parts, lower frictional losses etc. Balance shafts or (intentionally unbalanced) flywheel and crank pulley are used to counter vibrations.

[hardwang]

Yun ang trend sa Europe. Geely bought Volvo. BMW and Ford have also started using 3-cylinder 1.5L turbo engines.

Nothing wrong with 3 cylinders. Much like how some thought that 4 cylinders were not good back in the 80s.


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If nothing's wrong their 3 cylinder, why go 4 cylinders now? Very odd. Ang trend ngayon downsizing and reducing cylinders, but Geely opted to add one cylinder...

[AG4]

If nothing's wrong their 3 cylinder, why go 4 cylinders now? Very odd. Ang trend ngayon downsizing and reducing cylinders, but Geely opted to add one cylinder...

I read that Chinese consumers supposedly see the 4-cylinder engines as more desirable because of the higher cylinder count.

My guess, it might have something to do with 3-cylinder engines being associated with tiny cheap cars in the past like the Chery QQ.

There's also a rumor that the refreshed Ford Focus in China might drop the 1.5 turbo inline-3 EcoBoost for a 1.5 turbo inline-4.

[Egan101]

I read that Chinese consumers supposedly see the 4-cylinder engines as more desirable because of the higher cylinder count.

My guess, it might have something to do with 3-cylinder engines being associated with tiny cheap cars in the past like the Chery QQ.

There's also a rumor that the refreshed Ford Focus in China might drop the 1.5 turbo inline-3 EcoBoost for a 1.5 turbo inline-4.

The last Focus sold locally had the 1.5L 4-cylinder Ecoboost engine (180hp/240Nm). It would have been a better engine option for the Territory.


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[AG4]

The last Focus sold locally had the 1.5L 4-cylinder Ecoboost engine (180hp/240Nm). It would have been a better engine option for the Territory.

Territory engine is tuned more for efficiency and low emissions. I believe it also uses a timing chain like the larger EcoBoost engines instead of the timing belt of the old Sigma-based EcoBoost.

A more powerful version of the Territory's engine is found in the more expensive Equator Sport. It has 170PS and 260Nm vs 143PS and 225Nm.

[ice15]

Yun ang trend sa Europe. Geely bought Volvo. BMW and Ford have also started using 3-cylinder 1.5L turbo engines.

Nothing wrong with 3 cylinders. Much like how some thought that 4 cylinders were not good back in the 80s.


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the 500cc per cylinder theory, I can't find the article, pero below video is similar...

[Egan101]

The current 1.5L 3-cylinder turbo engine of the Coolray is more than enough for its size and price. Even better than the powerplant of vehicles within the same price range.


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[17Sphynx17]

Am honestly curious why from the trend of majority of manufacturers using 3 cylinder turbos, the new gen engine became a 4 cylinder. Is it because they want it to be more "balanced" while also improving the output?

Is there a big cost difference in making a 3 cylinder vs 4 cylinder engine? or is turboing a standard 1.5L 4 cylinder NA engine be more "cost efficient" for a vehicle manufacturer as they can use it on various platforms, with or without turbo?

The NA 1.5L on the expected PH Geely Emgrand , is it a 3 cylinder NA non turbo engine?

Trying to understand the rationale.

[ice15]

Why do most Chinese vehicles have sub-1500cc engines for PH? | Autoindustriya

[AG4]

Am honestly curious why from the trend of majority of manufacturers using 3 cylinder turbos, the new gen engine became a 4 cylinder. Is it because they want it to be more "balanced" while also improving the output?

This trend is with Chinese brands/ Chinese-market vehicles. I read that consumers there view less cylinders (3 vs 4) as something lower. Its an image thing, nothing performance related.

Modern 3-cylinder turbocharged engines use either a balance shaft or "intentionally unbalanced” flywheel and crank pulley to offset vibrations. 3-cylinder engines have the advantage of having less parts, lighter weight, and reduced frictional loss. This also means improved efficiency.

[hardwang]

This trend is with Chinese brands/ Chinese-market vehicles. I read that consumers there view less cylinders (3 vs 4) as something lower. Its an image thing, nothing performance related.

Modern 3-cylinder turbocharged engines use either a balance shaft or "intentionally unbalanced” flywheel and crank pulley to offset vibrations. 3-cylinder engines have the advantage of having less parts, lighter weight, and reduced frictional loss. This also means improved efficiency.

Hmmm... Suspicious...

[17Sphynx17]

Well, it appears on the recent article from AI that Geely Ph recognizes that they need to improve parts and after sales with their explosive growth on their fledgling local dealer network.

Hopefully it is not just lip service. It was bound to happen and at least their current president is aware of it is taking steps to (supposedly) address it before it gets worse.

[jalba777]

Does anybody know the wheel lug nut size of Geely Azkarra? Diameter, pitch, length.

[ice15]

Does anybody know the wheel lug nut size of Geely Azkarra? Diameter, pitch, length.

I would recommend that you post this question on their FB Group page. I don't think we have that many active members who drive an Azkarra

[ice15]

3-cyl engines a flop in China, 2022 Binyue switching to 4-cyl, what about Proton X50? | WapCar

The main reason why Geely decided to axe the 3-cylinder engine is because of poor response from Chinese buyers, as they typically avoid 3-cylinder cars.

The simple reason is that the Chinese car market is extremely competitive, and consumers have plenty of choices. The benefits of 3-cylinder engines have been explained many times, namely lighter weight and lower fuel consumption, as well as ease of electrification.

Still, Chinese consumers see these benefits as too intangible, plus there are plenty of 4-cylinder options on the market and these cars aren't any poorer.