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February 4th, 2020 01:16 PM #171Turbocharged engines operates on higher compression ratio than an identical naturally aspirated one, that's a fact no matter if you believe on it or not, that in itself comprises more stress on each of the cylinders. The problem with these 3 cylinder implementations were that they're mostly implemented for lower-end cars (not implying that Geely is a low-end car, just to be clear), mostly for cutting-cost during production and that's what I'm more concerned about. Budget-minded production + turbo would lead to more problems to be dealt with by the consumer in the future. I'm am not dissuading anyone away from Geely Coolray but I can attest that Ford engines are much better because their 3-cyl Ecoboost uses timing chain instead of just a timing-belt which this coolray sold in PH has. I owned a Ford Escape myself and I am the one maintaining my own car, I'm just starting to search buying for a new one that's why I'm doing my own research for possible options. Before you make any power and torque-related statements with regards to 3-cylinder turbos, make sure to include at which RPM they're rated, leaving that essential part is just plain mistake most people do when comparing power and torque.
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February 4th, 2020 01:36 PM #172
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February 4th, 2020 01:49 PM #173
Time will tell siguro kung pangit nga talaga timing belt compared to timing chain, maintenance wise.
Ung point ni carboye, parang tatay ko lang: iniisip kaagad na masisira or kung paano masisira ung part, ni hindi pa naman binibili ung car hehe
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February 4th, 2020 02:04 PM #174timing belts are scheduled for replacement at 100-140K km, before they brake. medyo masakit sa bulsa, but it has to be done. so, there.
timing chains are replaced only when something is wrong with them. many will last the life of the car.
i have/had both.
noise? the quietest engine i had, a sentra, had a timing chain.
people will learn to anticipate, based on their experience.
we can only roll with their punches.
sabi nga ng iba,
"some folks buy a car for what it offers in the showroom. other folks buy a car, for what it promises, years down the road of ownership."
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February 4th, 2020 02:15 PM #175
Most turbo engines reach peak torque output right after turbo spool. In the case of the Fiesta Ecoboost, it is before 2k rpm when you feel the peak torque kick in (when the engine is properly warmed up), about the same as the Coolray. I guess that is common for turbo 3-cylinders which are of European design.
In my experience with turbo 4-cylinders (my FXT and my brother-in-law's Civic RS), peak torque kicks in just before 2500 rpm. The Mazda6 2.5L SkyActivG turbo also feels the same.
That's the best part of turbo gas engines. Once the turbo spools, peak torque becomes readily available on a flat band up to the rpm when you hit peak output (between 5500 to 6k rpm). Unlike most NA 4-cylinder engines where torque is on a linear scale from idle up to the usual peak torque rpm at 4000 rpm.
I don't have a Coolray nor an XC40 but one of my staff let me test drive his Coolray after he bought it. I would say I was impressed as it was a lot better than an Ecosport or HRV, even better than my ASX with a 2.0L 4-cylinder NA engine (150hp/197Nm). My ASX feels lacking in oomph against the performance of the Coolray.
As mentioned above, I have a Forester XT with a 2.0L 4-cylinder turbo engine. It is better than the Coolray in terms of performance. It also has a bigger interior space and bigger trunk but it costs much more than the Coolray.
You can't blame people for being pessimistic.Last edited by Egan101; February 4th, 2020 at 02:22 PM.
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February 4th, 2020 03:16 PM #176
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February 4th, 2020 03:25 PM #177
Hopefully someone would not hinge his whole decision on a replaceable part hehe so lets see. Ilan years nga pala warranty ng coolray? Is it 3 or 5 years?
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February 4th, 2020 03:35 PM #178
Buying a car carries a lot of risk. It is up to you how to gauge those risks and accept them. Even a reliable Toyota carries some risk as you may find yourself buying a lemon and our local laws does not have so much regulations on such.
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February 4th, 2020 05:03 PM #179
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February 4th, 2020 06:17 PM #180
Kwento ng katrabaho ko, meron daw sya officemate dati na Italiano na tinanong daw bakit...
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