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    #681
    Gannon ba parehas lang tayong may RAV 4 at na-surprised nga ang dad ko nung nakita nya tong Tiggo in person sa showroom nung June,napansin ko na yung aircon vents ng GV ay medyo hawig nung RAV 4 lalo na yung steering wheel(parang based naman sa updated version ng 2nd gen RAV 4)..

    699K lang ang Tiggo kaya balak naming kunin para makapag-retire na tong RAV 4 namin...May extended 2 year warranty yata ang dealers ng Chery(basta part ng Autohub group) pero as usual may additional cost yan..

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    [quote=mazdamazda;940008]Highly unlikely. Labor is so much cheaper in China... why would they relocate here? If they need to relocate elsewhere in SEA, Vietnam is more viable for them.

    Plus, Chery & Geely is all CBU. Buti pa ang mga *imperialistic* brands dyan, may manufacturing plant dito.

    :evillaugh

    If there is a market, bakit hindi?May incentives binibigay ang government especially kung pioneering. I mean if Chery will produce some of its parts here such as engines and transmission makakamura din sila. Di lang naman labor ang component ng production.

    Gustuhin ko pa Chery mura kaysa sa mga sobrang mahal na nilalabas ng CAMPI. Kaya hindi na rin magtatagal ang mga yan. Magsasara din. Matitira dyan Toyota o Ford siguro.Mitsubishi at Isuzu maaari.

    Yung sinasabi mong manufacturing plant hindi manufacturing, assembly lang. In fact, beauty parlor ng kotse. Puro CBU, may CKD daw pero gulong at baterya lang lokal. Ang local na component ay sticker lang ng LTO sa mga CBU. Pulos reject sa home country naman dinadala dito.

    Imperialistic brands ano yun boss?bago yun a, can you mention one?

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    #683
    It's definitely impossible for Chery to produce any part here. Everything in China is dirt cheap.

    Kung gusto mo ng Chery, bumili ka na lang ng brand new owner-type jeep. nakatulong ka pa sa mga kababayan nating naga-assemble nito. Brand new ata nito is 150 or 200k lang. Compared to a Chery, mas matibay ito, handmade, tapos japanese engine.

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    #684
    Tiggo 6




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    Quote Originally Posted by jpdm View Post
    If there is a market, bakit hindi?May incentives binibigay ang government especially kung pioneering. I mean if Chery will produce some of its parts here such as engines and transmission makakamura din sila. Di lang naman labor ang component ng production.

    Gustuhin ko pa Chery mura kaysa sa mga sobrang mahal na nilalabas ng CAMPI. Kaya hindi na rin magtatagal ang mga yan. Magsasara din. Matitira dyan Toyota o Ford siguro.Mitsubishi at Isuzu maaari.

    Yung sinasabi mong manufacturing plant hindi manufacturing, assembly lang. In fact, beauty parlor ng kotse. Puro CBU, may CKD daw pero gulong at baterya lang lokal. Ang local na component ay sticker lang ng LTO sa mga CBU. Pulos reject sa home country naman dinadala dito.

    Imperialistic brands ano yun boss?bago yun a, can you mention one?
    I doubt if the Philippine government can match the subsidy level that China is throwing to their manufacturing industry - even their electricity is high subsidized. Have you seen any Chinese manufacturer who relocated to the Philippines? :evillaugh

    An example of a manufacturing plant? Have you been to the Ford/Mazda plant where they manufacture the vehicles from the ground up? FYI - we even have an engine manufacturing plant here in the Philippines. Errrr... btw... Ford/Mazda is not a member of CAMPI.

    An example of a CKD assembly plant? Have you been to the Toyota plant?

    I think you are confusing CKD with SKD... the latter is the one where only the tires & batteries are sourced locally.

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    #686
    Ganda na rin nun Tiggo 6. Almost SF na sa harap, pero Avanza sa likod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda View Post
    I doubt if the Philippine government can match the subsidy level that China is throwing to their manufacturing industry - even their electricity is high subsidized. Have you seen any Chinese manufacturer who relocated to the Philippines? :evillaugh

    An example of a manufacturing plant? Have you been to the Ford/Mazda plant where they manufacture the vehicles from the ground up? FYI - we even have an engine manufacturing plant here in the Philippines. Errrr... btw... Ford/Mazda is not a member of CAMPI.

    An example of a CKD assembly plant? Have you been to the Toyota plant?

    I think you are confusing CKD with SKD... the latter is the one where only the tires & batteries are sourced locally.
    I am not confused.I know what a CKD and a SKD.Teka meron pa bang SKD. Diba puro CBU na o CKD na limited quantities such as the Toyota Corolla Altis (soon to be phased out) and Vios. I know Ford is exporting Ford/Mazda cars to ASEAN. But I really doubt kung Ford really "manufacture" (with alot of locally made parts) their vehicles here. Baka naman lego type lang sir mazdamazda in other words ina-assemble lang dito using imported components yung kotse. Yung planta ng flexi-fuel engines na sinasabi mo ng Ford, inaassemble lang yun.

    Anyway, Im curious, are you working for them, mukhang marami kang alam sa kanila e.

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    Sorry I post the same

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    [SIZE=3]News:[/SIZE][SIZE=3] QQ3 Small wonder takes the road to Baguio[/SIZE]

    http://www.mb.com.ph/archive_pages.p...019106151.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by jpdm View Post
    I am not confused.I know what a CKD and a SKD.Teka meron pa bang SKD. Diba puro CBU na o CKD na limited quantities such as the Toyota Corolla Altis (soon to be phased out) and Vios. I know Ford is exporting Ford/Mazda cars to ASEAN. But I really doubt kung Ford really "manufacture" (with alot of locally made parts) their vehicles here. Baka naman lego type lang sir mazdamazda in other words ina-assemble lang dito using imported components yung kotse. Yung planta ng flexi-fuel engines na sinasabi mo ng Ford, inaassemble lang yun.

    Anyway, Im curious, are you working for them, mukhang marami kang alam sa kanila e.
    That's the case almost anywhere.

    You can have cars assembled in Mexico from US Steel, Singaporean or Philippine made electronics and tires from Japan...

    Globalization has encouraged many manufacturers to locate plants in various countries, regardless of where the raw materials or components come from.

    The fact that many of the parts come from overseas doesn't change the fact that the car is manufactured here. And some components are sourced locally, as long as the local supplier meets the requirements of the company.

    Ford manufactures vehicles here from the ground-up. Toyota does, too. They have such confidence in the new Vios that they're planning to build their entire local supply here, which is a good thing for local labor. That's a lot of cars.

    jpdm: I know you concentrate most of your time in the PhUV section, but you've been here long enough to know who mazdamazda is. He's been a moderator on these boards for a hell of a long time... in fact, the reason his name is "mazdamazda" is that he used to drive (and still has) a 323, and he came online as one of the pioneer members of protegetech.org, one of the older car clubs.

    I've known him for a few years, and I can assure you, while he is definitely a Mazda fanatic, he does not work for Ford, Toyota, or anyone else.

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    As for government subsidy, sad to say, it's true. We have too many restrictions and problems with local labor versus China for it to be worth Chery's while to manufacture here. Our local wages may be very low compared to the likes of the US, Japan or Singapore, but they're higher than China's, which is dirt cheap. And they don't have communist unions sabotaging them there.

    (Hey, maybe the KMU was planted by China to make Philippine labor non-competitive? )

    That's why many of the other automakers are investing so heavily in China. Huge consumer market (which helps them meet economies of scale, which lowers costs for them), really cheap labor, cheap utilities.

    Until the common Filipino feels the effects of economic development and more people can afford motor vehicles, the local market is just too tiny to support more than a few local plants. The ASEAN free trade agreement should help attract more investment, but it'll be quite some time before we see solid development due to this.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    And they don't have communist unions sabotaging them there.

    Until the common Filipino feels the effects of economic development and more people can afford motor vehicles, the local market is just too tiny to support more than a few local plants. T

    Hi niky, with regards with the unions, how ironic, we have one of the most liberalized economies in Asia and yet we are hounded by communist unions...
    sino kaya ang benefactor/model ng mga unyon na ito..China?

    Whereas, China is one of the few remaining Communist countries in the world, and yet no communist union err...capitalist unions....I thought Communism is also called Dictatorship of the Proletariats (Workers)...ironic, bawal mag-union ang workers....

    Plain and simple, no genuine manufacturing industry, no forward and backward linkages ang mga industriya dito re: industries puro assembly, importation-- no genuine economic development. Ang tagal na ng trickle down effect ng "successful"
    (7 years of positive growth daw)liberalized, globalized but highly import dependent call center/telecom, consumer led economic model ng bansa natin

    A Chery vehicle is one of the symbols of the economic might of China-formerly dirt poor but now a country with an economy with a blistering growth rate.

    Currently, China, Japan and even Malaysia are not only competing in high technology electronics and motor vehicle manufacturing (status symbol of advanced industrialized countries) but now in space technology.

    Pardon me Niky, Pinas kaya ano?Hanggang consumer, auto reviewer or endorser na lang ng cellphone at foreign vehicles? Sana naman hindi. Sayang, honestly, there are alot of Tsikoteers here who are world-class talents who can build a cellphone and a vehicle from scratch.
    Last edited by jpdm; October 27th, 2007 at 12:17 AM.

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    Can the Chery run 48/14 in the streets of Manila non-stop?
    iam3739.com

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    There's a misnomer there. China is not and has never been "poor".

    It's the Chinese people who are poor. But thanks to recent liberalization of business there, there's a rapidly growing middle class... but those who are really growing rich off of this development are the Communist Party and their friends.

    Malaysia isn't that poor, but not so long ago, they weren't any richer than the Philippines.

    I honestly don't know how we can translate recent "economic development" into something that means more to more pinoys... but I do know that nothing will happen until the government pays more attention to the fundamentals and less to political bickering.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    There are Chery vehicles now running here in the middle east. It really surprises me seeing them on the road because they really look like known brands. If their vehicles can survive the heat and dust here, then they surely would change the balance of car sales in in ME.

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    There are Chery vehicles now running here in the middle east. It really surprises me seeing them on the road because they really look like known brands. If their vehicles can survive the heat and dust here, then they surely would change the balance of car sales here in the ME.

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    #696
    Sa tignin ko medyo matibay naman ang Chery cars lalo na't for export na ang karamihan ng production..Yung Chery Manila(same dealer ng Kama Trucks at DFM Yuan minivans) eh may Chery Cowin at A5 on display...Sana may taxi version nito....

    Eto nga pala ang article tungkol sa new Chery QQ2:

    http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/10...made-a-new-qq/

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    I honestly don't know how we can translate recent "economic development" into something that means more to more pinoys... but I do know that nothing will happen until the government pays more attention to the fundamentals and less to political bickering.

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    its time to eradicate all people in the government.from president to secretaries, senators, congressmans, oic's even their cats & dogs for they are only good in words and not in deeds.its time to replace them.i think the brains and talents of the tsikoteers will have a better chance of resurrecting our economy, our standards, our country.

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    #698
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTKS6QHz7Sk"]YouTube - Chery A520 C-ncap crash test Chinese car[/ame]

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    #699
    Hmmm may chery na pala sa pinas hehehehe, 1st time i saw it here sa China last 3yrs ago sabi ko ganda and cute to ah, bagay na bagay sa pinas, but i didnt expect after 3yrs magkakaroon na dyan sa pinas, the price of a qq here in china starts at around rmb30-40k depende sa size ng engine and the tranny.

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    #700
    May libre palang plane ticket at trip to Shangai at Wuhu China pag bumili ka ng Chery cars this holiday season...


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