Questions About MLM/Networking

[rna800]

I had my fair share of MLM's too before and I got burned as well. Magta trabaho na lang ako, at least sigurado pa na may monthly income.

In my FB, ito na ung isa kong friend biglang nakaalala. Walang hiya yan, member pala ng Royale Business Club. Alam ko na yang gimmick na yan.

As usual puro pakita ng pics ng cars, house and lot of Royale members "daw" and checks niya. Sali daw ako and para makabili daw ako ng auto. He told me malapit na daw siyang makabili ng car niya. I asked kung ilan na ang nabili niyang car, sabi niya makakabili daw sana siya noon kaso kinulang pera niya. Then he asked me kung ilan ang vehicles ko. I said 4 ang current ko kasi nabenta ko na ung 2 noon, and nabili ko yan from years and years of hardwork, both from business and work, ng wala akong niri recruit, nilolokong tao and hindi ko kailangan bumili ng overpriced products every month. He didn't reply anymore.

Pero tuloy parin ang mokong na pag post ng pictures with a caption "Power" and all the people in the pic with their thumbs up. Pics with caption "Business meeting in Starbuck's", etc. Then papicture sa mga luxury cars. I feel sorry for them. I have already deleted and blocked him from my friend's list.

*ZENMasterTYL: Ganyan din ung friend ko who I blocked in my FB friends, sir. Panay din ang post ng Robert Kiyosaki lines, minsan kay Warren Buffet pa.

[jut703]

Yeah. From the start hindi talaga siya enticing dahil yung mga pinagpopost nila kaya rin naman makuha with a decent job. May fulfillment ka pa kasi alam mong you didn't rely on a very unstable business model to get it.

MLM lang yung alam kong job na kinahihiya ng mga tao pero ginagawa pa rin paulit ulit. Well I guess prostitution too but wala pa naman akong batchmate na prostitute. Ilang beses nang may tumawag sakin with their usual "business" spiel, then when I ask where they work ang daming pasikot sikot.

All my friends with regular jobs, kahit gano pa kababa sweldo, pag tinanong kami ng trabaho namin proud naman kami.


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[_Cathy_]

Yeah. From the start hindi talaga siya enticing dahil yung mga pinagpopost nila kaya rin naman makuha with a decent job. May fulfillment ka pa kasi alam mong you didn't rely on a very unstable business model to get it.

MLM lang yung alam kong job na kinahihiya ng mga tao pero ginagawa pa rin paulit ulit. Well I guess prostitution too but wala pa naman akong batchmate na prostitute. Ilang beses nang may tumawag sakin with their usual "business" spiel, then when I ask where they work ang daming pasikot sikot.

All my friends with regular jobs, kahit gano pa kababa sweldo, pag tinanong kami ng trabaho namin proud naman kami.


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ha ha ha :rofl:

Every MLM member wants to be THAT person who made it big. My colleague has been reprimanded by our VP for all his sidelines. Our bosses were lenient with him pero minsan sumusobra na because we could see him prioritizing his MLMs over his day job

[johnbreeeezy]

Ko ko Is there anyone here na member ng TFD? Dun sila nag rerecruit sa group ng sneakerheads sa FB. Eric Fructouso is the one that': recruiting. He keeps on posting his earnings and stuff. Ang tawag niya sa team niya is Team Takatak.mamdami na din siya narecruit dun. Then sa showbiz and some PBA players. His posting pictures na kasmaa sila with their earnings. Here's his message:

-Networking To kapatid! Minimum investment is p22,500. Maximum investment is p52,500.
Worth of products ang investment.

Tinanggal lang namin ang lahat ng ayaw natin sa networking.

-No seminar- boring and waste of time

-walang bentahan- hindi kita gagawing ahente


Just money making.
All we need are referrals, capable investors. Do not waste your time explaining or convincing. We do the talking for you . Mag invite ka lang, magturo ka lang ako bahala
Pero kung kaya mo magyaya why not

Very easy

Kagandahan is, u invest, i take pics intoducing u as my new business partner, i tag u, tapos makikita ng mga fb friends mo at sila na ang lalapit sayo.

Dito sa team ko, tulungan lahat at walang iwanan. Kasi kung hindi ka kikita, pati ako hindi kikita

P7,500 lang per head
So your buying 3 heads sa 22,500.
-Automatic pair
1,250 pairing
+1,000 direct referral
+1,000 direct referral
=3,250

7heads - 52,500
Automatic 3 pairs
-1,250 x3
+1,000 direct referrals x6
=9,750

Downline mo u get 1,000 per pair. So pag mag invest sila sayo 3heads or 7heads, multiply mo pairs nila by 1,000 😊

If direct referral mo parin, u get 1,000 per person. Does not matter on how many heads they invest in.
Plus another 1,000 ofcourse if there is another paring.

Easy money

P.S. willing siyang pahiramin ako ng pera so i can join them. Walang product product pera pera lang. Last time na nakita ko post niya,they're going to different provinces pati sa SG and middle east may nauto na sila heHeH

[jut703]

Wow lantarang pyramiding. People are just so blinded by money, they don't care about the legitimacy anymore.

Usually, yung wala ring pera yung nabibiktima, because those with money are smart enough not to engage in crap like that. Therefore, the prevalence of MLM further exacerbates the huge income inequality in the country.

How ironic that this "get rich quick" scheme actually makes things worse for majority of people and the economy as a whole.


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[170kphlang]

earning money by taking advantage of others. how low some people could really get.

[jut703]

earning money by taking advantage of others. how low some people could really get.

Same can be said for government officials..


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[frostmourn]

Same can be said for government officials..


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Very well said sir jut703.

[Yuki13]

Ko ko Is there anyone here na member ng TFD? Dun sila nag rerecruit sa group ng sneakerheads sa FB. Eric Fructouso is the one that': recruiting. He keeps on posting his earnings and stuff. Ang tawag niya sa team niya is Team Takatak.mamdami na din siya narecruit dun. Then sa showbiz and some PBA players. His posting pictures na kasmaa sila with their earnings. Here's his message:


P.S. willing siyang pahiramin ako ng pera so i can join them. Walang product product pera pera lang. Last time na nakita ko post niya,they're going to different provinces pati sa SG and middle east may nauto na sila heHeH

madaming magpapa-uto diyan.

[simplydhens08]

Ko ko Is there anyone here na member ng TFD? Dun sila nag rerecruit sa group ng sneakerheads sa FB. Eric Fructouso is the one that': recruiting. He keeps on posting his earnings and stuff. Ang tawag niya sa team niya is Team Takatak.mamdami na din siya narecruit dun. Then sa showbiz and some PBA players. His posting pictures na kasmaa sila with their earnings. Here's his message:


P.S. willing siyang pahiramin ako ng pera so i can join them. Walang product product pera pera lang. Last time na nakita ko post niya,they're going to different provinces pati sa SG and middle east may nauto na sila heHeH

eto na yung pyramiding scheme not MLM. yung mga taong hindi alam ang difference ng pyramiding at mlm is tlagang malilito or mauuto mag join. marami din akong kilala n nag UNO, aim global, royale, jingga juice, herbalife etc. ang napapansin ko sa kanila palagi sila nagpopost ng cheke nila tapos ipopost din sa public ang pag welcome ng new members para makahikayat sila ng ibang tao. pag tinanong ko paano nila na formulate ang produkto nila ang sasabihin chemist daw yung may ari kaya na formulate yung products. lol
kung ang produkto nila is nasa books ng nurse (MIMS) or doktor (PPD / PDR) doon ako maniniwala sa producto nila. kaso wala doon ang produkto nila. kaya nga nasa label ng bottles is NO THERAPEUTIC ClAIM APPROVED.

[johnbreeeezy]

Yung TFD na to mga celebrities kasi sinasabi na members. E alam mo naman ibang Pinoy, basta sikat maniniwala na agad sila kaya sumasali na agad. Ang dami na narecruit nitong si froctouso nakabili na hammer e.

[gutz_3110]

i've heard recruiters say "wala pinagkaiba ito sa ginagawa ni Henry Sy. nasa itaas siya, mga empleyado niya ang downline"

wtf sabi ko hindi kailangan bumili ng starter kit ang mga nag a-apply ng trabaho sa SM

lakas nang tawa ko dito! lol!

my understanding on mlm, it's legit as long as there's product to sell. tanong eh, anong klaseng product, can the product cope with the market? iba pa yun kita sa recruitment, dito daw talaga tiba tiba ang kita kapag maraming na recruit. it's sad that a cousin of mine was consumed of his mlm career. he stopped schooling in exchange of this (so-called) career, his not in good terms with his parents (baka ni recruit na din), his social media accounts now filled with memes and quotes from errr business cum inspirational books and worst of all, leaving derogatory remarks belittling his friends who are students and yuppies.

eto napansin ko since he he joined mlm.
1. business - palagi nya sinasabi gusto ko mag business. meron sya o silang sariling definition sa salitang negosyo. baka kasi meron products involved, kaya nila nasabing negosyo. pero naman, 7K++ for a few bottles of supple and gluta?
2. opportunity - saan, sa manlinlang ng kapwa?
3. gusto lang nilang tumulong at mag share - sus, willing ka gumawa ng kalaban mo sa negosyo? o gusto nilang kunin yun recruitment fee mo?
4. training - ano, ite-train? strategy na manlinlang ng mas marami?

sa umpisa pa lang mali na eh. may perversion sa mga ginamit na salita. very misleading yun recruitment nila. tapos may pinapakita pa syang mga networkers na naka ferrari, R8, GTR...ewan ko kung totoong kanila yun ha.

ang tanong ko lang dyan
1. magkano kinikita ng networker/distributor on a monthly average?
2. kung lahat distributor na, sino pa ang customer?
3. kung hawak mo oras mo, bakit panay lakad nila maghapon para makahanap ng prospect?
4. kung sobrang dali yumaman, bakit sila sy, ayala, tan, aboitiz, gokongwei eh hindi na lang ag divest at mag mlm na lang?
5. bakit may naloloko pa dito?

[gutz_3110]

sa mga recruiting seminar speakers make fun of office workers -- may position or title nga pero magkano lang daw ang sweldo. sa MLM daan libo ang kinikita buwan buwan. basically they're saying people with jobs are wasting their time. mag MLM nalang daw

naku, yang ang mga ganyan post ang nasa social media nang pinsan ko. gusto ko nga kutusan. yun parents nya work their *sses off to provide everything they need. sabi nga sa akin ng auntie ko, dumatin pa sa point na minaliit sila at sinisisi bakit hindi sila nag "business" at an early age. nakakahiya kasi yun mga ka batch nya graduating na at sya proud to be a drop-out. paniwalang paniwala dun sa meme na meron plate number na "drop-out" lang yun may ari nung lambo o ferrari ba yun. nakakalungkot na nakakainis.

[jut703]

naku, yang ang mga ganyan post ang nasa social media nang pinsan ko. gusto ko nga kutusan. yun parents nya work their *sses off to provide everything they need. sabi nga sa akin ng auntie ko, dumatin pa sa point na minaliit sila at sinisisi bakit hindi sila nag "business" at an early age. nakakahiya kasi yun mga ka batch nya graduating na at sya proud to be a drop-out. paniwalang paniwala dun sa meme na meron plate number na "drop-out" lang yun may ari nung lambo o ferrari ba yun. nakakalungkot na nakakainis.

Kita kits nalang in 10 years, tingnan natin kung san pupulutin yang drop out MLM friend mo vs your other friends that strived to finish their education and get decent jobs


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Very wrong mind set. Even blaming the parents for not going into business.

He/she will most likely be a short term success.

[Monseratto]

At least not all "recruits/victims" fell for their tricks...

10 MOST RIDICULOUS RECRUITMENT STRATEGIES OF SOME "NETWORKERS"


What is a "Networker"?

A networker is a member of one of the most promising business (According to other networkers) that involves product selling and recruitment of other people to a company. There are many types of networkers but they belong to a same concept marketing business also known as "Pyramid Scheme"

Pyramid scheme is an unsustainable business model that involves promising participants of payment and services if you enroll other participants into the scheme.

Simply, it goes like this

You enroll (Commonly, it costs 8 thousand pesos here in PH) and get more people to participate in the scheme under your name, when you recruit, you get some percent from the payments of new participants. And participants you enroll will do the same things and if you are on the top of the pyramid, you get the most slice of payments from people under you.

It sounds like a dream but it has its own flaws.

The most common in the Philippines is MLM, unlike networking, MLM gives you products that they say is "What you are paying for". With the price of 8k (Most common enrollment fee) you get to have products that cost the same amount that you paid (Which they say you can sell to earn back your capital).

But most MLM members doesn't focus on product selling, they are more focused on the revenue from recruiting other members. It's exactly like Pyramid scheme but they look more legit because of the product.

Those are the basic things you ought to know before reading the 10 most ridiculous recruitment strategies of networkers!

These are actual experiences sent by people on an internet survey asking
"Paano ka naloko mapunta sa isang orientation ng networking?" and "Ano ang sinabi nila sayo sa orientation"

1.) "Niyaya po kaming magkakaibigan, bonding daw! kain daw kami sa Mang Inasal libre na niya. Pero bago kami kumain dinala niya muna kami sa orientation ng networking. Nilibre naman niya kaming lima ng tig 60 na meal pero gusto ko isampal sakanya yon matapos kaming ma-orient ng dalawang oras! Dalawang oras ng buhay ko sinayang niya!"


2.) "Punta daw kami free gig daw ng Kamikazee. P-ngina networking lang pala. WALA PANG TUMUGTOG! Nag all black pa naman ako tas ganun lang mangyayari sa araw ko!"

3.) "Nung niyaya ako ng mga kababata ko may pupuntahan daw kaming importante. Ako naman si sunod. Walang hiya, isang oras ata ako naka upo tas kung ano anong pinapaliwanag sakin pag naka recruit daw ako yayaman ako. Pero ang nasa isip ko lang gusto ko na umuwi at pagmumurahin sa FB yung dalawa kong kababata. After pa ako i-orient, tinanong pa ko kung may 8k daw ako para sa recruitment. Sabi ko wala. Tas tinanong ako ulit kung bebenta niya daw ba ng walong libo yung kotse niya sakin, bibilhin ko daw ba. Sabi ko siyempre oo. Sabi niya, Edi kaya mo maglabas ng 8k. T*ngina! Para sa kotse kaya ko diskartehan pero para sa walang kwentang bagay na ang ibibigay lang sakin na product ay kape, WAG NALANG!"

4.) "Date daw kami, ang ayos ayos ng suot ko pang holding hands and slowmo-kiss pero dalawang oras kami sa orientation ng networking. Gusto kong ibundol dun sa nagoorient yung tinuturo niyang kotse na nakuha niya daw sa loob ng apat na buwan!"

5.) "Yung ka-batch ko nung highschool na ang huling conversation namin ay kapanahunan pa ni eba't adan biglang pumunta sa bahay. Nangamusta, antagal namin nagkamustahan at mga 30 minutes kami nag-kwentuhan bilang tao. Maya maya naglabas ng products at inalok na ko ng membership. Ang hirap niya tanggihan pero krisis ang buhay ko at walang panahon sa gantong sh-t"

6.) "Manghiram daw ako ng cellphone sa tropa ko tas isangla ko daw, mababalik ko din naman daw yon triple pa!"

7.) "Walang hiya talaga yung matagal ko nang kaibigan, nagyaya ng gala tas yung pinuntahan namin mga taong mayayaman daw dahil sa networking at tinry kaming irecruit. Hindi na namin siya kaibigan ngayon"

8.) "Panay ang tag post sakin sa fb nung kabatch ko at panay ang sabi ng "iba kami dito saq Royale", buwisit na buwisit ako dahil wala namang nagtatanong. Minura ko talaga"

9.) "2 months daw nagka-kotse siya. Dati palaboy lang daw siya. Asar na asar ako nung tinanong ko kung san niya pinapark yung kotse niya tas ang sagot may house daw sila sa romblon. NAKALIMUTAN NIYA AGAD YUNG SINABE NIYA SAKIN"

10.) "Nag-PM yung crush ko at naging sanhi ng pagtibok ng puso ko ng napakabilis. Nung i-click ko ang mensahe ang intro ba naman "OPEN MINDED KA BA SA BUSINESS". Tumibok ng mabilis yung ugat ko sa noo at iniyak nalang ang pag-subok"

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^^ hahaha. Natawa ako dun sa manghiram ng cellphone sabay sangla. Mga hudas! Haha

[NightRock]

Ewan ko ba marami pa ding ganyan kung ano anong company na nalabas..nakaka bwisit na din sa FB puro ganyan makikita mo.. mga feeling mayaman kung totoong yayaman sila dyan for sure hindi nila I share pa sa iba yan

[b0y37]

Funny. As I was reading this thread, a college friend of mine PMed me in FB. "Christimas na, mini-eb?"

I said "Sige ba, sa Genie's? :D"

He said "Sa Ortigas, may magsasalita lang about work. Mga two hours lang"

Damn.

[_Cathy_]

I think I just lost respect for my FB friend plus he just tainted my good impression of Ateneans. Nagpakabakya na sa networking :rofl: I also get annoying private messages for him re "business opportunities"

What little respect I had for him was lost when I saw him post jewelry that came from their "business" with matching message that made me cringe.