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  1. Join Date
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    For the longest time, I automatically dismissed anything that had a hint of MLM/networking, because I believe it is built on deception. Recently though, I noticed that several of my batchmates have gotten into it. Nakakapagtaka - these people are qualified enough to get decent corporate jobs, but somehow opted to join a networking group. Usana/Xtrm seems to be the in thing right now.

    Personally, I believe that networking is ethically unstable because it is built on the business model wherein you manipulate someone to pay you a certain sum of money, with the promise that they too can coax others to do the same.

    In my head, when I try to simplify the business model:
    Guy 1: "Pare, pahingi naman ako 10k"
    Guy 2: "G*go ka ba, bat naman kita bibigyan ng pera"
    Guy 1: "Pag binigyan mo ko 10k, pwede ka na rin magrecruit ng ibang tao tapos sila naman magbibigay sayo 10k"

    ...and the cycle goes on. Then, they try to legalize it by creating some crap product to prove that the money that recruited members pay is for the product and not for the networking per se. Of course, if anyone has attended a networking dinner, you'd know that they will talk 95% of the time about the earnings you can have, and only about 5% on the product itself.

    I looked at FB/Instagram posts with networking hashtags (#xtrm, #xtrmlifestyle), and it was all about materialistic posts. Yung isa, nakapag-check in sa Dusit. Yung isa, nakabili Macbook. Yung isa, kumain sa sosy buffet sa Shang.
    In my head, these are things that you can all have if you get a decent job that doesn't rely on deception and trickery.

    Magkano ba kinikita ng mga networker na yan? Alam naman natin na yung mga nasa taas lang yung nakakabili ng mga Ferrari and other ubiquitous toys, but for the average networker, how much do they make in a month and how long does it take them to reach that level of income? Also, how many percent of these networking folks actually make it big, compared to those na nababaon lang sa utang dahil sa napaka-materialistic lifestyle nila?

    Bottom-line, mababa talaga tingin ko sa networkers, and I'd like to hear different perspectives that could possibly make me view them in a different light.

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    yung sa may san juan tapat ng may 711 office tuwing gabi dumadami mga ganyan sa labas.nakaka-cause pa ng traffic. bakit gabi? call center?

    Sent from Constantinople

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    Dba ito yung pinagtatalunan sa mga post dati sa TopGear Philippines FB page

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    In my head, when I try to simplify the business model:
    Guy 1: "Pare, pahingi naman ako 10k"
    Guy 2: "G*go ka ba, bat naman kita bibigyan ng pera"
    Guy 1: "Pag binigyan mo ko 10k, pwede ka na rin magrecruit ng ibang tao tapos sila naman magbibigay sayo 10k"
    i would simplify it like this -

    mlm member to prospect: yayaman ka pag sumali ka

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    I am wary of people that are into networking...

    If a friend/relative/acquaintance recruits me into networking, I avoid that person until he or she gets off my back.

    Less than a decade ago my younger cousin was recruited into networking. He told me that his friends started to dwindle since he got into it kaya tinigilan na niya :bwahaha: And he paid 10 or 20k to join that network
    Last edited by _Cathy_; July 14th, 2014 at 08:49 PM.

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    Magkano ba kinikita ng mga networker na yan? Alam naman natin na yung mga nasa taas lang yung nakakabili ng mga Ferrari and other ubiquitous toys,
    yup coz it's a zero-sum game

    money from the many goes to the few

    but for the average networker, how much do they make in a month and how long does it take them to reach that level of income?
    it's not a matter of how long but how many people the networker can recruit and how many people his recruits can recruit and so on

    some networks grow fast while other networks stop growing
    Last edited by uls; July 14th, 2014 at 08:55 PM.

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    I think networking is illegal in the states

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    ano lang yan. mang-uto ng iba tao para mabawi mo yung nauto na pera sayo

    Sent from Constantinople

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    grabe nagkalat sila SWA, ROYALE, UNO tska yung load-all simm, "yumaman na si ganito, baka sunod kana" eh bakit yung nag aadvertise di pa yumayaman?

    galing ng mga convincing power nang mga damuho....galing mag uto

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    Fern C MLM din diba? I buy Fern C though

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    also Vita plus is marketing

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    Quote Originally Posted by crosswind View Post
    I think networking is illegal in the states
    nope

    Herbalife, Amway, Forever Living, Nu Skin, USANA etc

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    How about front row?
    Meron dito sa amin ang dala si bumble bee. Napapalingon ang lahat.


    Galing mag "sales talk".

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    Yes, it's a game of money of many people transferring to few. The goal is to be among those few. In the process losing/saturating your friends/prospects.

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    i've heard recruiters say "wala pinagkaiba ito sa ginagawa ni Henry Sy. nasa itaas siya, mga empleyado niya ang downline"

    wtf sabi ko hindi kailangan bumili ng starter kit ang mga nag a-apply ng trabaho sa SM

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    networking = pyramiding.
    only the ones at the apex make money.

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    May kakilala ako nag nnetworking. Naka Toyota Mr2 yata yun. Napansin ko na di na maganda paint ng auto niya.
    SAbi ko magpa detail siya.

    Tinanong kung magkano. SYempre sinabi ko ang alam ko na price.

    Napa-WTF, ang mahal daw.

    Sa Isip isip ko eh akala ko marami ka ng pera. Haha

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    Based on the comments..mukhang tama nga yung initial hypothesis ko na wala talagang mabuting nadudulot ang networking.

    Wala bang networking fanboys diyan? Sige na, gusto ko marinig side niyo.


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    This only proves na maraming tanga sa pinas.

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    if the question is meron ba yumaman sa MLM? meron... if you joined early and the MLM company grew really big

    if you joined when the MLM is already big may pag asa pa basta magaling ka mag recruit at magaling din mag recruit ang mga narecruit mo at magaling din mag recruit ang mga narecruit nila so on...

    pero madami mga sumali sa MLM hindi kumikita

    madami mga MLMers mas maliit pa ang kinikita kesa sa mga ordinary employee na pinagtatawanan nila (na nirerecruit nila)

    meron mga nag give up even before mabawi nila ang puhunan (the joining fee/starter kit that cost thousands)

    personally i would join an MLM if they have a product i wanna use that i cannot find an alternative anywhere. i'd sign up just for the discount

    but most MLM products are overpriced ordinary stuff. you can easily find lower priced alternatives in stores or online. like Fern-C. it's sodium ascorbate. you can buy generic version at half the price
    Last edited by uls; July 15th, 2014 at 02:21 AM.

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