Good paying college courses to take

[Mentis]

God willing, my eldest will finish her BSBA (marketing) course next year. And I plan to send her in UPLB for masteral degree, would this be enough to assure her a high paying career in the future with regards of her selected course?

[sirkosero]

Undergrad degree gets you your first job.

Getting a higher paying one is all about diskarte.

Suggest you let your kid work first, get some experience, get the masteral degree then look for a new job.

[CLAVEL3699]

yes and maybe, depende pa din sa anak mo yan.

yes kasi maganda credentials nya and maybe kung kaya nyang translate ang credentials nya sa trabaho.

i started as a kargador - storekeeper. with the help of experience, training and seminars umangat ako. hindi ako nagpalit palit nang field of expertise.

[Juan Martinez]

God willing, my eldest will finish her BSBA (marketing) course next year. And I plan to send her in UPLB for masteral degree, would this be enough to assure her a high paying career in the future with regards of her selected course?

nothing beats experience. you let her work in some field where she can learn things out of life. the world's a great classroom far better than those found in stanford or wharton. and from there, after 5 years or so, if she is still up to it, earn her masters degree on her own. this may sound trite, but still holds true: never let her studies get in the way with her education.

[jut703]

BS BA from what university? And what particular Master's program will she take?

More than the course, it's your school that matters, at first. Take a look at the biggest multinationals in the country and their Management Trainee programs. About 80-90% of those that get in those programs are from UP/ADMU/DLSU. MT programs have higher starting salaries than regular hires.

In a recent survey conducted by the Ateneo Placement Office, fresh grads typically start with a 20-25k salary. If you're part of an MT program, you usually start with 35-60k. On top of that, you're expected to get promoted faster (typically in 3-5 years you're in a managerial position).

Of course, the course matters too. A physics graduate will have difficulty creating business cases, marketing proposals, and so on because of his lack of exposure to those tasks. But I have friends who's a physics graduate but was taken in by one of the biggest companies in the Philippines as one of their sales/marketing guys. Of course, it helps that he graduated Magna Cum Laude from DLSU.

And that leads me to my next point, more than just the course and school, your kid's achievements also matter in determining how high she starts on the corporate ladder. Grades are always important, but companies nowadays would prefer the Cum Laude graduate with a lot of org work rather than the Summa Cum Laude with no extra curricular activities to speak of. As another example, one of my friends was an average student grades-wise, but was the president of her org in college and won several international marketing competitions, so she got into one of the biggest multinational FMCGs as a management trainee for marketing.

A Master's degree so early on in your kid's career doesn't offer much of an advantage. Especially if it's an MBA, because it'll be rather redundant with her college degree. An engineering grad who takes up an MBA will greatly benefit from it, but all my friends who already finished great business programs in college said that their MBA (even if it was from ADMU/UP) were a waste of time learning-wise. Additional connections help, but this early on in your kid's career, it doesn't amount to much. I would suggest that rather than spending an extra 2 years studying, let her get a job, gain experience, and build her network. If by the time she's 25, she still feels that an MBA is helpful, then let her take it and make her pay for it herself. At least she'll appreciate the value of an MBA that way.

I have to reiterate though, your school and course only gives you a headstart in the corporate world. It will make you start higher up the grid, but how you get promoted after that is entirely up to you as a person - how willing you are to learn, how much effort you put in your job, how effective you are in dealing with results. These things are molded by your education, but are in most part really determined by your character and abilities.

Just my two cents as a business grad myself.


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[dishcom]

Mas ok mag work muna siya. Then tiyaka siya kumuha ng masteral na base sa need ng carrer na gusto niya.
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Kung may business ka naman sir. On my opinion mas ok na siya na mismo maging marketing ng business mo.

[Mentis]

I told her that too, she should be the one to take up all the challenges and nourishing her career. Specially, we are living from the south side though may mga magagandang company naman dito it pays naman a provincial rate. At kung she plan to work in NCR dapat ready talaga sya to compete and of course sa hirap ng transportation.

[yebo]

mba without experience is worthless. work experience muna bago masters.

she should target to work for companies that send their employees for their mba while working. free na mba nya tapos kung swertihin pa siya e baka sa aim pa siya i-sponsor ng company nya.

[CLAVEL3699]

mba without experience is worthless. work experience muna bago masters.

she should target to work for companies that send their employees for their mba while working. free na mba nya tapos kung swertihin pa siya e baka sa aim pa siya i-sponsor ng company nya.

pwede naman na may MBA without experience na sya basta kaya nyang pangatawanan ang MBA degree nya.

Hindi naman MBA degree kaagad ang pinag uusapan, yung PERFORMANCE nya plus yung personality nya towards colleagues and bosses. Mas madali kasi sya uusad from that.

Some I know na nag MBA while working kadalasan hindi natatapos dahil kung hindi company sponsored dahil sa pagod kinatatamaran na.

[dishcom]

Siguro sir sa ngayon. Kung gusto niya maging equip talaga to look for a good job. Dapat galingan niya sa school. Sumali siya sa mga org or contest. She can work as freelancer din.. after graduation she had enough experience than other.

[CLAVEL3699]

Ang mga titingnan to have a job.

1. School
2. Credential sa School --- org or clubs
3. Personality

Pero ang pinakamahalaga dito is PERSONALITY - DISKARTE. How can you sell / PROMOTE yourself.

May staff ako na napakasipag at napakatalino, hindi sya mapromote promote dahil wala syang diskarte to tell everybody how good she is. Mahilig lang kasi sa isang tabi tanggap lang nang tanggap nang trabaho. ROBOT nga ang tawag sa kanya.

Even you dont have a Good school, average grade but a TONS of personality. sigurado ako aangat sya

[dishcom]

^ agree sir.

Kung ako magkakaroon ng anak na babae. Kung hindi siya mangangarap as a doctor or lawyer... tuturuan ko na lang siya mag manage ng negosyo or gagawan ko siya ng negosyo base sa gusto niyang course at hilig niya. Ayoko ng inuutusan ng iba ang anak ko lalo na siguro kung babae. Hehe, baka hindi ko ma tiis.
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Sabi ko nga sa misis ko. Kung 1M papamana ko sa anak kung lalaki. E baka pag babae e 2M dapat pamana ko.

[Juan Martinez]

mba without experience is worthless. work experience muna bago masters.

she should target to work for companies that send their employees for their mba while working.

+1 agree.

that's why i said in another thread that a master's degree (MNSA program) at NDCP is what matters to me because you can't get in there unless you're ltcol in the AFP, psupt in the pnp, or holding a supervisory rank at least SG24 in the civilian government, or a top level manager in the private sector. so, not just any tom, dick, and harry can get it without EXPERIENCE.

it makes the man or woman. whether you shoveled shits, pushed karitons, carried hollow blocks on your back in your early life, it matters not, as long as you have that EXPERIENCE.

booker t. washington once said: I have learned that success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he has overcome while trying to succeed.

[Syuryuken]

known school + diskarte + connection siguradong asenso ng daughter mo. Sa custom madali daw yumaman

[1D4LV]

Undergrad degree gets you your first job.

Getting a higher paying one is all about diskarte.

Suggest you let your kid work first, get some experience, get the masteral degree then look for a new job.

agree.... i know people who have masteral degrees but are underpaid by standards, because, well...... she cannot really manage a department, because of personal attitude towards her people.

for immediate employment, i suggest that she goes to work first, get experience and feel of the corporate culture, and study for her masteral program after 2-3 years.....

and hwag mo na sponsoran..... kaya na nya yan on her own from her salary.

[_Cathy_]

It won't help much unless you send your daughter to a very prestigious school like Wharton or Harvard In Manila it will only matter in terms of salary if you took your MBA abroad or at AIM. A local MBA will only give you a premium but it does not equate to a much higher salary upon graduation. It could also be a step into getting in companies that prefer an MBA degree such as ADB, but you will still start as a staff if you only have a few years of experience.

Also, it does not make sense to take an MBA right after graduation. Most lessons are supposed to apply in the workplace. The graduate schools I know of require x number of work experience before you could qualify for the program. In the organization where I work, an MBA degree does not guarantee a management position, you are only given a small premium in salary. It is the undergraduate degree that is critical in getting into a good corporation and starting salary then the rest is up to the person on how he or she will handle her career. It's a reality that most prestigious companies prefer graduates of UP Diliman, DLSU Manila and Ateneo de Manila. They would accept grads from other school but the person should be with honors. In my first job, fresh graduates of Management Engineering from Ateneo are hired as MTs while the rest of us commoners start of as staff. We were all joking about how we took the wrong course (and school for non Ateneans) but it's not like we have the brains to finish ME :bwahaha:

In getting a promotion your network and personality matters a lot. I do know a lot of good employees that are very hardworking and diligent but have a hard time getting a promotion because they lack the network or assertiveness to take on a leadership role. There are also employees who are so good at kissing the right ass that they skyrocketed into upper management, that's also a sad reality that happens a lot. O basta magaling magsalita, kahit sabog trabaho That's where an MBA degree will help if a person is not good in speaking in front of an audience or lacks confidence. MBA will teach you how to speak in front of an audience with confidence. I used to dread presentations, but now I even volunteer to make presentations

There is a study that the Philippines is one of the best countries for a woman to have a career because there is virtually no glass ceiling. We've had 2 women presidents and so much women in management. I am no feminist but I do not agree that women cannot be "utus utusan". My dad treats me delicately but has taught me the value of being able to take care of myself. He is happy for me to have a career and don't mind na "utus utusan ako", in fact he likes that because it teaches me how to submit to authority. I have encountered work mates that have problems with authority and that did not get them anywhere.

[chua_riwap]

May neighbor kami dati. She's from Mindanao. W/ honors sya & 2 courses pa tinapos. Kaso, never heard yung school nya. Hirap na hirap makapasok sa Manila.

Since may hitsura sya, nasa Landmark na sya working as a Saleslady.

So important din talaga yung school.

[XTO]

Nasa bata yan. Kung mahusay kahit walang MBA mabilis aangat and if ever maliitan, mahirapan sa first job alam nya kung dapat lumipat. Now kung nakakailang lipat na ganun pa rin that's the time to study and for sure mas maganda kaysa una mapapasukan at the same time makikita mo na interesado talaga ang bata.

[badkuk]

As a fresh grad, i don't think you can expect too much in terms of salary. For now, focus muna on getting relevant experience, kahit bugbog sa trabaho, kahit maliit sweldo. At the very least, magkakalaman na yung resume niya when looking for other job ops.

Regarding getting a job in MM vs sa province: i guess mas me impact to get work experience here, but everybody else has the same idea, so you are competing with a lot more people for the same job. i think it depends on the company, and whether the job/company can let you gain relevant skills/experience, maybe even clear career path. Believe me, not all companies(even those na mabago ang pangalan) take good care of the employees in that regard.

Can't comment much on networking/soft skills, except that it may be the most important skill you need, in life or in work.

[unmarked]

Academics will get your foot in the door, pero when it comes down to it, soft skills ang nag pe play ng bigger role sa success.

Also, according to a recent research, its better to move on to different jobs talaga pag gusto mo lumaki ang sweldo mo, instead of waiting for promotions. Max na daw ang 3 years per company.

I kinda agree, im stuck with my first and only company for almost 10 years now. Mejo napag iwanan nako sa sweldo, kahit na 4 times nako na promote.