LED vs Halogen vs HID in Headlights with Reflectors

[D3nb3r]

Eto pla ung light pattern. Mali ba or what? Pls dnt judge me haha just making sure ayoko makasilaw




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I dont think may mali sa output mo medyo di lang pantay yung upper step ng dalawang cut-off. There is a slight rotational alignment needed but on actual di mo yan mapapansin, nakikita ko lang dahil may konting backgorund ako but for most people di na mapapansin yung rotational issue lalo na maliit lang. Also mas ma distingiush mo ang step at cut-off pag 25ft away from the wall ang park mo to take the pics. Malapit kasi masyado sa wall kaya may glare at pati hot spot di makita. Or baka sa phone cam mo lang.
This pic after the servicing ng isang HL? Easy fix lang yan kahit ikaw pwede mo adjust yan if ganyan lang ka liit ang difference. Baka ma OT tayo dahil iba na topic nato. Better sa kabilang thread mo i post to.

[dr. d]

while the aim may be correct, the now-stronger glare outside the aim may be too intense, as to cause some temporary blindness to the oncoming motorist.
check it, sir.
stand several meters in front of your car, with its headlights on, at night.
also, if you get more than your share of oncoming hi-beam flicker at night, even as you're already at lo-beam....

[Kimchijiji]

I dont think may mali sa output mo medyo di lang pantay yung upper step ng dalawang cut-off. There is a slight rotational alignment needed but on actual di mo yan mapapansin, nakikita ko lang dahil may konting backgorund ako but for most people di na mapapansin yung rotational issue lalo na maliit lang. Also mas ma distingiush mo ang step at cut-off pag 25ft away from the wall ang park mo to take the pics. Malapit kasi masyado sa wall kaya may glare at pati hot spot di makita. Or baka sa phone cam mo lang.
This pic after the servicing ng isang HL? Easy fix lang yan kahit ikaw pwede mo adjust yan if ganyan lang ka liit ang difference. Baka ma OT tayo dahil iba na topic nato. Better sa kabilang thread mo i post to.

Phone cam lng. Both headlights inalis pero isa ung binuksan tlga mismo. Dunno if may effect ung sa alignment. Try ko picturan ng mas malayo


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[D3nb3r]

Phone cam lng. Both headlights inalis pero isa ung binuksan tlga mismo. Dunno if may effect ung sa alignment. Try ko picturan ng mas malayo

Kaya it's always a basic practice na before mag tanggal ng HL always mark muna the cut-off sa wall kung saan naka harap ang vehicle para madali pag align during re-assembly. Pero kung eksperyensyado naman ang installer kahit wala na marking. Pag tinanggal both headlights I would still recommend to check the alignment just to make sure kahit yung isa lang ang binuksan. A few millimeter difference sa source would have an exponential effect on certain distance kasi.
Kung wala kang basehan at limited space ka try mo park at 3meters or 10ft from a wall, measure height ng HL center mo to the ground, use that distance sa wall and mark it. Then adjust your lower step by dropping it 1.5inch from your mark on the wall. May pinost din akong alignment method sa kabilang thread baka makatulong yun sayo if you still want to adjust your HL.

[artsky]

Hi guys, I have installed a Novsight 5500k 14400 lumens in my Vios (H4 reflector housing). I have not yet done a road test yet but initial beam pattern comparison between the Osram nightbreaker and this one, the cutoff seems to be the same. I have previously used a fanless ZES chip led but find the output weak and I do not like the 6500k temperature color. Hopefully this one is better.

[StockEngine]

Hi guys, I have installed a Novsight 5500k 14400 lumens in my Vios (H4 reflector housing). I have not yet done a road test yet but initial beam pattern comparison between the Osram nightbreaker and this one, the cutoff seems to be the same. I have previously used a fanless ZES chip led but find the output weak and I do not like the 6500k temperature color. Hopefully this one is better.

bro kulang ang bideo... walang sample outout hehe

[artsky]

bro kulang ang bideo... walang sample outout hehe

yes sir, panget kasi bakuran namin na katapat ng garahe kaya hindi ko sinama sa video. lol. Pag na road test ko na lagay ko findings.

[LN106G]

i have 2 late model Toyota SUVs one with OEM LED HL’s (rated at 6000K i think) and the other H4 Halogen (upgraded to Philips X- treme Vision Plus 130%), same brand and shade of tint on WS. My personal observation is, going up on either Marcos or Kennon Road on a rainy season proves the Halogen to be far more reliable than LEDs or HIDs. Adding auxiliary Foglights in eithr Halogen, LED/HID bulbs would be probably a better route albeit a more expensive alternative (as there is additional expense on mounting, brackets, etc)

[joaquim]

Same observation with Sir LN106. Maganda ang LED sa city and in dark roads pero pag may kasalubong na halos hindi ko na makita kalsada

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[jut703]

I have both LED and halogen and I drive very frequently on dark provincial roads. Even during rainy weather, the LED has better road illumination.

I was also surprised that I had good illumination with the LED considering the higher color temp.

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[LN106G]

Same observation with Sir LN106. Maganda ang LED sa city and in dark roads pero pag may kasalubong na halos hindi ko na makita kalsada

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And in the real world, LED’s/HID’s rated at 6000kelvin or higher are very nice to use during dry season in concrete highways but it is pretty useless in wet asphalted roads and when driving in thick fog..

[jut703]

And in the real world, LED’s/HID’s rated at 6000kelvin or higher are very nice to use during dry season in concrete highways but it is pretty useless in wet asphalted roads and when driving in thick fog..

Have driven my factory LED headlamps in the foggy and rainy roads of Sagada and they were very useful.

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[LN106G]

Have driven my factory LED headlamps in the foggy and rainy roads of Sagada and they were very useful.

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This i respectfully dont agree with this. The superwhite LED headlights are less useful in thick fog. I live in the highlands. The yellow foglights have far better illumination in a rainy night with thick fog. Driven Halsema and other highland roads in inclement weather too...
The difference probably is that you are younger & still with sharper vision...
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[benchph1]

The best compromise for all weather is still 4300K. Otherwise known as “stock” color.

But i don’t want stock [emoji16]


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[kisshmet]

This i respectfully dont agree with this. The superwhite LED headlights are less useful in thick fog. I live in the highlands. The yellow foglights have far better illumination in a rainy night with thick fog. Driven Halsema and other highland roads in inclement weather too...
The difference probably is that you are younger & still with sharper vision...
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Warm light evaporates mist in the air much better than an LED

When light travel from one medium to another (air to water to air to water) light will refract (similar to a prism). Direction of light will bend everytime it travel to a different medium of different density. As light travel further from the source it gets scattered and not focused which makes driving dangerous

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[artsky]

Here's the roadtest video of the H4 LED in my reflector headlight. Hopefully no glare to others. Still observing, but so far, the beam pattern seems to be the same with the stock halogen.

[oj88]

Installed a pair of Novsight N60 H4 LEDs on my 2016 Innova. The out-of-the-box beam was a tad bit horrendous. The right part of the beam was too high and I was lighting up electrical poles and glaring into the eyes of pedestrians.

Stock photo of the H4 N60


Anyway, I did a small mod using aluminum tape to extend the low-beam "hood" by about 1.5 mm and it fixed the cut-off on both sides of the beam while drastically reduced over-spill. I did a burin-in test for 1 hour last night (temperature test) and then drove the vehicle around the block (vibration test) to see if the aluminum will hold. It does seem so but only time will tell. If it doesn't hold, I still have a few other ideas, like using a piece of tin from a soda can and make some sort of retention clip to keep it in place. But this should do for now.



The BEFORE, pre-mod beamshots: Left: OEM halogen, Right: LED


I forgot to take the AFTER-mod beamshots but I will, as soon as I can get things setup again in the garage.

The thing with sellers of LED headlight bulbs is that, they seldom post beamshots of their project vehicles against a flat surface. To me, that is a better representation of how the LED performs on a specific vehicle. Instead, they only post head-on shots, which is useless and is mostly only for aesthetic purposes. I just hope they put more science into it. That said, I think H4 LED bulbs should come with fully adjustable hoods to make them more adaptable to different headlamp optics.

Needless to say, this is an active project and I understand that it may or may not work out. I can always switch back to halogen, if necessary. I've kept the OEM cut-off height which I derived from the halogen bulbs and so the LEDs are aimed at where the OEM bulbs should be, if not close enough.

[oj88]

...cont'd.

Here's the AFTER, dipped beamshot from about 3 car-lengths away. Significantly better than without the mod. This is the extent I can achieve from the reflector-type headlight. I didn't bother taking a beamshot of the high-beam as they are working as they should and is not relevant to what I was trying to achieve.


Though, it appears I may have been too conservative and under-cut the aluminum tape a bit on the driver-side LED. This then caused an abrupt transition where the hotspot is. I may tweak this in the future. But for now, I am totally satisfied and sold on this upgrade.

[BratPAQ]

Installed a pair of Novsight N60 H4 LEDs on my 2016 Innova. The out-of-the-box beam was a tad bit horrendous. The right part of the beam was too high and I was lighting up electrical poles and glaring into the eyes of pedestrians.

Stock photo of the H4 N60


Anyway, I did a small mod using aluminum tape to extend the low-beam "hood" by about 1.5 mm and it fixed the cut-off on both sides of the beam while drastically reduced over-spill. I did a burin-in test for 1 hour last night (temperature test) and then drove the vehicle around the block (vibration test) to see if the aluminum will hold. It does seem so but only time will tell. If it doesn't hold, I still have a few other ideas, like using a piece of tin from a soda can and make some sort of retention clip to keep it in place. But this should do for now.



The BEFORE, pre-mod beamshots: Left: OEM halogen, Right: LED


I forgot to take the AFTER-mod beamshots but I will, as soon as I can get things setup again in the garage.

The thing with sellers of LED headlight bulbs is that, they seldom post beamshots of their project vehicles against a flat surface. To me, that is a better representation of how the LED performs on a specific vehicle. Instead, they only post head-on shots, which is useless and is mostly only for aesthetic purposes. I just hope they put more science into it. That said, I think H4 LED bulbs should come with fully adjustable hoods to make them more adaptable to different headlamp optics.

Needless to say, this is an active project and I understand that it may or may not work out. I can always switch back to halogen, if necessary. I've kept the OEM cut-off height which I derived from the halogen bulbs and so the LEDs are aimed at where the OEM bulbs should be, if not close enough.

So hindi basta salpak lang h4 ng novsight? Need pa talaga adjustment? I was considering novsight h4 led too. Somebody mentioned na halos lahat ng naka salubung nyang reflector na naka LED eh nakaka silaw. Siguro hindi nila inaayos yung beam like you did. Basta nag lagay lang. I just opted for night breaker unlimited para salpak lang.

[oj88]

So hindi basta salpak lang h4 ng novsight? Need pa talaga adjustment? I was considering novsight h4 led too. Somebody mentioned na halos lahat ng naka salubung nyang reflector na naka LED eh nakaka silaw. Siguro hindi nila inaayos yung beam like you did. Basta nag lagay lang. I just opted for night breaker unlimited para salpak lang.

Let's put it this way. Reflector-type optics are not forgiving when it comes to filament/LED alignment. The light needs to hit every part of the reflector at exactly the correct angle so the beam goes to where it needs to be, and not where it shouldn't.

Maybe it's plug-and-play on other vehicles but that is not the case on my Innova. It's practically unusable in its original state. Walang exaggeration pero pwede na akong inspector ng transformers ng Meralco sa gabi. haha

Kaya beamshots against a wall talaga, at the very least, should be used as a partial gauge on how the headlamps perform as a system (bulb + optics). It's still best to have it professionally aligned (which I am considering), but it's not at all bad to DIY, as long as you know what you're doing. There are many resources online on how to do it properly.

Maraming nagbebenta ng LED bulbs online pero madalas pinapakita head-on shots lang. Ano kaya use nun? Kung gaano ka-silaw yung kasalubong mo? lol