LED vs Halogen vs HID in Headlights with Reflectors

[red_one]

LED bulbs for automotive use are getting better. Right now the brightest LED chips are the Philips MZ, Philips ZES, Cree XHP50 and Cree XHP70. The latest LED bulbs copy the size and location of the filament of the halogen bulb. The purpose is to mimic the light pattern of the halogen bulb and to prevent glare. Though some models still use fans for cooling, some models are doing away with these noisy fans and use heatsinks and copper ribbons for removing heat instead.



These charts show what happens when you install LED in stock headlights with reflector. LED bulbs have different responses depending on the headlight housing of the vehicle. In some cases, the LED is brighter than stock halogen; while in some cases, the stock halogen is brighter than LED. In some cases, the LED is brighter than 35W HID. BUT remember that in the tests, the 35W HIDs were used with reflector and not projector. In some cases, the beam pattern is good and acceptable; while in some cases, they are bad and scattered.









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[stagea]

Lux readings also do not validate the light output of the headlight. It only measures hotspot intensity.

[yebo]

basing observations on light beams projected against a wall is only for checking the cut off and glare pattern. the best way to measure a headlight's performance is to use it on a newly laid asphalt road with no markings on a rainy night. halogen will still outperform those leds and hids where it matters most.

[stagea]

basing observations on light beams projected against a wall is only for checking the cut off and glare pattern. the best way to measure a headlight's performance is to use it on a newly laid asphalt road with no markings on a rainy night. halogen will still outperform those leds and hids where it matters most.

Aside from reduced reflected light and CRI, I do not see why. I've not seen a road lighting measurement favoring halogen when compared to a properly designed LED or HID headlamp.

[wewoy_romero]

i tried a philips ultinon h4 led copy for around a month last december (this one Testing the cn360 H4 LED headlight bulb (Philips X-treme Ultinon copy) - HiDplanet : The Official Automotive Lighting Forum following the tips on adjusting the angle, etc to make it better) and went back to using my trusty osram 80/85 all weather bulbs.

the led bulbs were good. but it seems i was able to see better with my all-weather halogens (probably because of the slightly yellowish color).

[dr. d]

i tried a philips ultinon h4 led copy for around a month last december (this one Testing the cn360 H4 LED headlight bulb (Philips X-treme Ultinon copy) - HiDplanet : The Official Automotive Lighting Forum following the tips on adjusting the angle, etc to make it better) and went back to using my trusty osram 80/85 all weather bulbs.

the led bulbs were good. but it seems i was able to see better with my all-weather halogens (probably because of the slightly yellowish color).

it is the yellow light that enables us to see thru the fog and the rain.
hids and leds, simply intensify the light reflected by the raindrops and fog particles, back to our eyes, blind us from what is hiding beyond them.

[yebo]

Aside from reduced reflected light and CRI, I do not see why. I've not seen a road lighting measurement favoring halogen when compared to a properly designed LED or HID headlamp.

i did said "on a rainy night", where the only measurement that matters is the one made by the guy behind the steering wheel.

[lowslowbenz]

Kayong mga naka retro-fit ek ek na ilaw dyan ....

Maawa naman kayo sa kasalubong nyo tuwing gabi ....

[red_one]

If worried about fog, rain and asphalt roads, HID bulbs are also available in lower color temperature such as 3000K.



Also, you can turn on your fog lights.



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[red_one]

Too expensive ang Philips Ultinon LED. They are more expensive than entry level HID retrofit package.

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[zumiiizimiii]

Hello saan po pwede maka avail nito?

Lumalabo na mga mata namin ng sis ko sa night driving. Kapag naman mag bright light kawawa kasalubong.

Gusto namin change yung OEM ng trailblazer po namin...recommendations appreciated much thanks

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[dr. d]

Hello saan po pwede maka avail nito?

Lumalabo na mga mata namin ng sis ko sa night driving. Kapag naman mag bright light kawawa kasalubong.

Gusto namin change yung OEM ng trailblazer po namin...recommendations appreciated much thanks

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1. if you have front windshield tint, have it removed, sir.
2. see an eye doctor. it might be an eye illness.

[zumiiizimiii]

*glenn_duke thanks po. 4 yrs old yung Chevy Trailblazer (suv). No idea po kung anong type ng ilaw yun. Pero hindi pa naman napalitan. Hindi din madumi yung yung cover niya.

I thought malabo lang eyes ko kaya ang hirap makita yung road sa gabi pero pati sister ko pala napansin niya since kakarating lang niya ang siya lagi gumagamit nung oto. Hindi naman po malabo mata nun pero nahirapan daw siya sa night driving kaya we plan to change it.

Im not well versed when it comes to lights and auto accessories kaya i will try to research your recommendations and suggestions.

Appreciate all your suggestions.

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[D3nb3r]

*glenn_duke thanks po. 4 yrs old yung Chevy Trailblazer (suv). No idea po kung anong type ng ilaw yun. Pero hindi pa naman napalitan. Hindi din madumi yung yung cover niya.

I thought malabo lang eyes ko kaya ang hirap makita yung road sa gabi pero pati sister ko pala napansin niya since kakarating lang niya ang siya lagi gumagamit nung oto. Hindi naman po malabo mata nun pero nahirapan daw siya sa night driving kaya we plan to change it.

Im not well versed when it comes to lights and auto accessories kaya i will try to research your recommendations and suggestions.

Appreciate all your suggestions.

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Go with an HID projector retrofit since I think walang TB variant na naka projectors ang HL. If installed properly by a reputable shop you'll see intense output and sharp cut-off. Heck even the entry level of reputable shops are way better than stock HL. Firedrake, xenon concepts are some of the budget friendly shops. HIDretrofit by gary quizon and redline autoworks by angelo magtoto are some of the famous shops din. How much are you willing to spend?

[zumiiizimiii]

Go with an HID projector retrofit since I think walang TB variant na naka projectors ang HL. If installed properly by a reputable shop you'll see intense output and sharp cut-off. Heck even the entry level of reputable shops are way better than stock HL. Firedrake, xenon concepts are some of the budget friendly shops. HIDretrofit by gary quizon and redline autoworks by angelo magtoto are some of the famous shops din. How much are you willing to spend?

Based on pricing from *Glenn_duke's post, I think we will prepare at least 15K to 20K max but we prefer to have it installed by a highly recommended professional than DIY. Wont touch anything dont know nothing about [emoji28]

Thank you so much for the suggestion.
We will read about it. How much is HID projector retrofit?

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[D3nb3r]

Based on pricing from *Glenn_duke's post, I think we will prepare at least 15K to 20K max but we prefer to have it installed by a highly recommended professional than DIY. Wont touch anything dont know nothing about [emoji28]

Thank you so much for the suggestion.
We will read about it. How much is HID projector retrofit?

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for 15k you can have an entry level set-up for that dagdagan mo konti ang 20k mo mid-level na yan kay ang angelo magtoto of redline autowoks. Si Jut na mods dito sa redline din pinagawa HL nya.
If you go with xenon concepts ask for the FX-R projectors or at least G5-R. G5-r is mas madali ang installation dahil bolt on. Fx-r naman is they have to cut the reflector bowls and di kana pwedeng bunalik sa stock if ever you want to. But fx-r for me has better width.
For some even the Q5 is more than enough na and wont care the difference between oem spec or aftermaket projectors. For me, if budget permits gusto ko nanaman palitan yung gen1 philips xvc1 into gen2 after nakita ko meron na available bulbs sa firedrake

[Kimchijiji]

Ask ko lng. Ayos na alignment nung hid/headlight. Pero may pinaayos ako so kinalas uli yung headlight, then after binalik lng like nothing happened. Would the alignment of the light output be the same as before? Or maiba dahil inalis ko ung headlight?


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[D3nb3r]

Ask ko lng. Ayos na alignment nung hid/headlight. Pero may pinaayos ako so kinalas uli. Would the alignment be the same as before?


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Kaya i-adjust yan. Alam na ng mga reputable shop paano align or adjust ang cut-off mo. Some of them mark the original cut-off sa wall that your car is facing bago mag baklas, para may basehan pag assemble uli and pag re-align at yan din gamit ko sa mga DIY ko. But generally, a proper cut-off at 25ft ay hindi lalagpas sa side mirror ng normal sedan.