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    Is it worth it? Who does the best retrofit?

    I wanna upgrade my headlights and do it right and only once so it has to be the best.

    Can anyone share their experiences?


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    I'd only retrofit my headlights if I regularly traverse provincial roads. Lots of vendors these days; the montero club has a recommended vendor in Paranaque though I didn't get the name.

    Garyq's works are still the cleaner with regards to the installation IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calistro View Post
    I'd only retrofit my headlights if I regularly traverse provincial roads. Lots of vendors these days; the montero club has a recommended vendor in Paranaque though I didn't get the name.

    Garyq's works are still the cleaner with regards to the installation IMO

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    I do regularly travel at night on dark unlit roads and I can't just put a lightbar on because of the presence of other people so I do need responsible light.

    How about performance wise? I've been looking at GaryQ and Redline Auto Works.

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    I had my Mazda 3's headlights retrofitted and the output is much brighter compared to halogen headlights, yet isn't blinding to motorists.

    HID retrofit on the left, stock halogen on the right:



    However, your HID retrofit is useless if you have dark tint. My car with HID has medium tint (Vkool OEM 20), while my car with stock halogens has clear tint (Vkool 70). Even if the HID's output is much brighter than halogen, the visibility from inside is still better with the latter because of the clear tint.



    Bottomline - if you want better visibility, get lighter tints before getting retrofits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    I had my Mazda 3's headlights retrofitted and the output is much brighter compared to halogen headlights, yet isn't blinding to motorists.

    HID retrofit on the left, stock halogen on the right:



    However, your HID retrofit is useless if you have dark tint. My car with HID has medium tint (Vkool OEM 20), while my car with stock halogens has clear tint (Vkool 70). Even if the HID's output is much brighter than halogen, the visibility from inside is still better with the latter because of the clear tint.



    Bottomline - if you want better visibility, get lighter tints before getting retrofits.

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    If they will be too dark then I'll be upgrading my tints too sir. As of now I have medium tint on. But I do like the privacy of having medium tint compared to none or to light tint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Diesel View Post
    If they will be too dark then I'll be upgrading my tints too sir. As of now I have medium tint on. But I do like the privacy of having medium tint compared to none or to light tint.
    Try looking at xenon concepts in FB sir, you can get a HID retrofit for as low as 10k. Not so sure about their quality of materials and work though


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    Quote Originally Posted by babybackrivs View Post
    Try looking at xenon concepts in FB sir, you can get a HID retrofit for as low as 10k. Not so sure about their quality of materials and work though


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    Will check it out too but they seem to undercut the competition in pricing so much that I worry about the quality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Diesel View Post
    If they will be too dark then I'll be upgrading my tints too sir. As of now I have medium tint on. But I do like the privacy of having medium tint compared to none or to light tint.
    If you can't live without the tints, then at least getting a retrofill will improve whatever poor visibility the stock halogen headlights give.

    Just manage your expectations that visibility will still not be up to par with clear tints.
    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Diesel View Post
    Will check it out too but they seem to undercut the competition in pricing so much that I worry about the quality
    So far I think only garyq and Redline Auto Works (Tots) are able to do OEM-level retrofits. Pricey at 20k upwards but all the cheaper options are also inferior. Usong uso kasi budget meal.

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    Other bulb options: Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited +110%. Osram Nightbreaker Laser +130%. Philips Xtreme Vision +100%. Philips Xtreme Vision +130%.

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    I'll be checking all of it out thanks sirs!


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    I recently had my car retrofitted by Xenon Concepts. Projector install was spot on, wiring was very neat, hid kit was plug and play. Very satisfied with my Php10k spend. I regret not having done this upgrade a few years back. 😂😂😂

    I've seen a lot of retrofits done by hidretrofit.net/the retrofit source and redline. Honestly, they are no better than what Xenon Concepts has to offer. The owner of the shop is really nice too. He even served me snacks while they were working on my car's headlights.

    On to the photos:
    Stage 2 Retrofit using Koito Q5 projectors and NHK 5500Kelvin HID kit



    Philips t10 LED parklights, PIAA 5000K long life HB3 high beam bulbs (color matched the hid projectors, bought online)


    Philips 2700K LED H16 Fogs (bought online)


    Fogs + Lowbeams (3m medium black tint)


    Fogs + Lowbeams + Highbeams


    Flashing those high beams are like opening up a 200w led bar with combo beam. Very bright!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aar0nix View Post
    I recently had my car retrofitted by Xenon Concepts. Projector install was spot on, wiring was very neat, hid kit was plug and play. Very satisfied with my Php10k spend. I regret not having done this upgrade a few years back. 😂😂😂

    I've seen a lot of retrofits done by hidretrofit.net/the retrofit source and redline. Honestly, they are no better than what Xenon Concepts has to offer. The owner of the shop is really nice too. He even served me snacks while they were working on my car's headlights.

    On to the photos:
    Stage 2 Retrofit using Koito Q5 projectors and NHK 5500Kelvin HID kit



    Philips t10 LED parklights, PIAA 5000K long life HB3 high beam bulbs (color matched the hid projectors, bought online)


    Philips 2700K LED H16 Fogs (bought online)


    Fogs + Lowbeams (3m medium black tint)


    Fogs + Lowbeams + Highbeams


    Flashing those high beams are like opening up a 200w led bar with combo beam. Very bright!
    Medyo jej kasi yung mga nakapost sa page nila - puro angel eyes with ugly LEDs pa.

    But looking at their basic stage 2 package which uses Q5 projectors, that's what Redline/garyq offers for half the price! Now I'm curious as to why he offers it at a much lower price - what's the catch?

    Are Tots and Gary just greedy? Or are there corners that were cut that's why Pao's retrofits are cheaper?

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    ^^^ A little bit of both ... the cheaper one cut some corners ... the expensive ones are a little bit greedy ...

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    +1 for Xenon Concept. 3 times na ako nagpagawa sa kanila. lahat stage1, 4300K. almost 2years na. ok na ok pa din. nagbibigay pa ng magandang discount

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    Please give mobile contact number of Xenon Concept ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Medyo jej kasi yung mga nakapost sa page nila - puro angel eyes with ugly LEDs pa.

    But looking at their basic stage 2 package which uses Q5 projectors, that's what Redline/garyq offers for half the price! Now I'm curious as to why he offers it at a much lower price - what's the catch?

    Are Tots and Gary just greedy? Or are there corners that were cut that's why Pao's retrofits are cheaper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    ^^^ A little bit of both ... the cheaper one cut some corners ... the expensive ones are a little bit greedy ...
    I don't think Xenon Concepts cut some corners in doing my hid retrofit. My lights are awesome! The other day, naka open windows ako habang traffic, tinanong ako nung katabi ko na driver naka Fortuner kung bakit ang ganda ng headlights ko. Told him to check out Xenon Concepts sa fb. 😎
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Please give mobile contact number of Xenon Concept ...
    Xenon Concepts / Paolo Melencio
    09178423174

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    Quote Originally Posted by aar0nix View Post
    I don't think Xenon Concepts cut some corners in doing my hid retrofit. My lights are awesome

    That's is good to know ... will go see Xenon Concepts, thank you for the info ... although even with a simple upgrade bulb replacement to Philips or OSRAM, headlights will look better ... thing is, unless one is very well versed with HID parts, one cannot now if the parts used are OEM quality, 1st class, 2nd class or 3rd class quality ...

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    I think if straightforward Projector upgrade but some OEM look DRL like ng Everest/Ranger he ndi pa daw nila kayang gawin yung OEM look

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    That's good. At least alam nila limitations nila. If I knew about this before I would've had my Mazda's retrofit here rather than with Tots.

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    Ano ba ang plug and play retrofit?

    Was looking at xenon concepts, plug and play retrofit daw tapos their stage2 is reversible daw to halogen.

    Pano yun eh diba mas malaki ang projectors that h4 bulbs?

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