Bolt-on bi-xenon projectors

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*colt
Ok naman ang 10k na price. Try mo kung pwede kang bumili ng projector, bulb at shroud lang since meron ka ng ballast at wiring harness.
Yung H4 telescopic, halogen H4 based yun na may solenoid para igalaw yung hid bulb to simulate the high beam filament ng halogen bulb. Sa halogen reflector ito ikinakabit at ipinapalit sa halogen h4 bulb. Maliwanag lang ang foreground at walang distance at width. At higit sa lahat glaring sa kasalubong. Not worth it ikabit dahil downgrade sya from halogen in my opinion.
San nga pala location mo?

*chyll2
Estimate ko lang yung 20k sa Q5 with OEM bulb at ballast complete with installation.
you got pm by the way.

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[colt]

*shok thank you sa pag educate sakin. go na ako doon sa 10k na Koito Q5. hanap nalang free time para pa pa gawa. alabang area nga pala ako sir.

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*colt
Ok na ok na yang Q5 sir kung bolt on. Make sure lang na hindi rushed yung pagkabit ng installer lalu na kung maliit ang headlight. My experience with Q5 is may natural tendency syang nakatungo yung aim depende sa surface ng stock reflector bowl. I had to DIY redo the install in my case. Also sand the edge of the shield para pantay at malinis ang cutoff at mamaximize ang color band before installing.
Nabanggit mo din na my ballasts ka na. Ano ang HID setup mo ngayon? And what car pala?

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[colt]

B14 sentra paps oto ko. HID ko boss yung china H4 telescopic lang na 6000k. sabog kasi yung liwanag kaya kahit maliwanag ilaw parang kung saan saan lang. hirap ako pag biyahe sa gabi

[shok]

Tama. Kailangan ng Amp to D2S adapter nyan. Enough na ang 35W sa Q5 kung ako ang tatanungin. Ipon na lang to upgrade to OEM ballasts and bulbs later instead of getting another aftermarket ballast kung wala namang problem yung existing mo.

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[colt]

Tama. Kailangan ng Amp to D2S adapter nyan. Enough na ang 35W sa Q5 kung ako ang tatanungin. Ipon na lang to upgrade to OEM ballasts and bulbs later instead of getting another aftermarket ballast kung wala namang problem yung existing mo.

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salamat sir. may available ba locally ng AMP-D2 adapter kasi may nakita ako sa TRS pa e. ganon nalang nga muna siguro. gamitin ko existing ballast ko then kuwa ng D2S bulbs na 4300K tapos Q5 na projector in that way baka mas makamura ako while saving up for Phillips na D2S bulb and a branded ballast.

[shok]

Meron sa lahat ng nagkakabit ng Q5 yan. Hindi kasi lahat OEM ballast ang gamit at almost all ng aftermarket balast amp connectors ang output kaya necessity ang mag stock ng amp-d2s connector.

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[colt]

salamat sir. naginquire na ako sa Firedrake bisitahin ko pag may time ako.

[IMm29]

*shok,

Thanks for your feedback. I concur with you observations on the mini H1. Lakas nga ng foreground lighting. Sayang the q5 wasn't too easily available 2 years back. Baka it's time to upgrade? Hehehe!

Would having a foreground limiter help with lighting, or does it just help one's distance vision coz the light is not concentrated too much down short and low?

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*IMm29

An aggressive foreground limiter would help a little in terms of distance vision because it reduces the difference in intensity of light that the eyes are seeing. But, overall intensity suffers because you are just deleting/blocking the foreground light. Hindi naman mareredistribute yung blinock ng foreground limiter papuntang cutoff. The intensity at the cutoff will remain the same at ang tanging soluyon dyan ay magupgrade na!

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[colt]

*shok nag inquire na ako kay Firedrake medyo mahal siya compared kay pao sa Q5 to think na sariling ballast ko pa gagamitin. i'll go with pao nalang siguro.

[garyq]

*shok nag inquire na ako kay Firedrake medyo mahal siya compared kay pao sa Q5 to think na sariling ballast ko pa gagamitin. i'll go with pao nalang siguro.

Iba output and long term reliability ng Q5 sa projector na kinakabit ni pao. Maraming factors to decide when doing this so make sure you do your research. Remember, cheaper is not always better.

[miko101130]

Iba output and long term reliability ng Q5 sa projector na kinakabit ni pao. Maraming factors to decide when doing this so make sure you do your research. Remember, cheaper is not always better.

yung Q5 ko mag three years na ata... no problems whatsoever. using Philips 85122+ d2s, no problems din. using morimoto ballast, no problems pa din after three years..

iba talaga pag quality ang materials and components, although meh kaakibat na dagdag gastos.

in the long run what you are paying for will be decreased labor cost due to back job, less worries that lighting system will fail lalo na on long drives, less stress sa owner hehe, and less time spend on repairs.

[miko101130]

Iba output and long term reliability ng Q5 sa projector na kinakabit ni pao. Maraming factors to decide when doing this so make sure you do your research. Remember, cheaper is not always better.

yung Q5 ko mag three years na ata... no problems whatsoever. using Philips 85122+ d2s, no problems din. using morimoto ballast, no problems pa din after three years..

iba talaga pag quality ang materials and components, although meh kaakibat na dagdag gastos.

in the long run what you are paying for will be decreased labor cost due to back job, less worries that lighting system will fail lalo na on long drives, less stress sa owner hehe, and less time spend on repairs.

[shok]

In fairness to colt, he was comparing Pao's Q5 Vs Q5 from another shop.

However, I agree with both garyq and miko101130 that cheapest isn't necessarily the better choice.

Quality of workmanship in installation has a lot of value too. Hindi pwedeng para paraan lang para maikabit ang projector specially kung masikip ang headlight.

Madaming adjustments at trimmings din ang kailangan para maialign ng tama ang projector at magkaroon ng enough adjustability for proper aiming. Malinis din dapat ang cutting ng shroud before proper sealing.

All projectors, mapa aftermarket or OEM also needs some tuning before installation to maximize output. It is not just limited on rotation and correct hotspot placement that you can actually tweak a little post HL sealing sa Q5 bolt on. But more so on smooth even cutoff, maximizing of color band, etc that you can't adjust anymore kung sealed na ang HL unless pabuksan mo ulit.

[colt]

Iba output and long term reliability ng Q5 sa projector na kinakabit ni pao. Maraming factors to decide when doing this so make sure you do your research. Remember, cheaper is not always better.

yes sir. I agree that cheaper is not always better. kaya hingi po sana ako feedback sa ibang mga naging customers ni pao dito sa thread.

BTW, when you said that iba ang output at long term reliability ng Q5 ni pao, does it mean iba ang Q5 niya sa iba? or dahil sa pang install kaya nag iba?

[garyq]

ang Q5 meron copy, copy of copies and copy of copy of copies, so on... get what I mean? having the right parts is 50% of a successful retrofit, yung another 50% is the know-how and technique nung retrofitter. THis applies to all retrofitter and not just pao.

[miko101130]

yes sir. I agree that cheaper is not always better. kaya hingi po sana ako feedback sa ibang mga naging customers ni pao dito sa thread.

BTW, when you said that iba ang output at long term reliability ng Q5 ni pao, does it mean iba ang Q5 niya sa iba? or dahil sa pang install kaya nag iba?

yung isang headlight ng uncle ko keh pao ko pinagawa 3 years n din ata... hindi pa nga ata Q5 yun.. mukang ok pa naman up to now yung projectors... yung bulb napalitan na,

ok naman for me yung gawa ni pao in all honesty... pero im more satisfied kung sarili kong diskarte.
so ayun, ako nag source out nang parts and did the headlight myself...

ang mahirap eh ang full retro... walang balikan na kasi kaya 100% dapat na perfect.

pero keh sir gary pa din vote ko, hehe... sa dami na na retrofit ni sir gary eh.. hahaha... he knows his stuff very well..

[miko101130]

*IMm29

An aggressive foreground limiter would help a little in terms of distance vision because it reduces the difference in intensity of light that the eyes are seeing. But, overall intensity suffers because you are just deleting/blocking the foreground light. Hindi naman mareredistribute yung blinock ng foreground limiter papuntang cutoff. The intensity at the cutoff will remain the same at ang tanging soluyon dyan ay magupgrade na!

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buti hindi FXR ang binili mo sir?
o kaya TL na projectors? hahaha... nakaka temp kasi amg FXR although sisirain mo kasi headlight mo eh...
nakaka temp mag full retro,

[miko101130]

*IMm29

An aggressive foreground limiter would help a little in terms of distance vision because it reduces the difference in intensity of light that the eyes are seeing. But, overall intensity suffers because you are just deleting/blocking the foreground light. Hindi naman mareredistribute yung blinock ng foreground limiter papuntang cutoff. The intensity at the cutoff will remain the same at ang tanging soluyon dyan ay magupgrade na!

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buti hindi FXR ang binili mo sir?
o kaya TL na projectors? hahaha... nakaka temp kasi amg FXR although sisirain mo kasi headlight mo eh...
nakaka temp mag full retro,