Let's Settle This Khaos Controversy: THE TSIKOT CHALLENGE!

**pink_cadillac** · April 14th, 2005 06:03 PM

Lads, let's keep it simple.

We're here to test the initial claims of the said device.

The engine durability issues can be for another day or another thread.

Can we get three cars? Getting two is difficult enough.

**chase** · April 14th, 2005 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by pink_cadillac

Lads, let's keep it simple.

We're here to test the initial claims of the said device.

The engine durability issues can be for another day or another thread.

Can we get three cars? Getting two is difficult enough.

the claims really DO work. no questions asked. they really DO!
but durability and longevity of your engine has to be taken into consideration as well.

its like taking drugs, u feel good now, but in the long run, what happens?

**pink_cadillac** · April 14th, 2005 06:33 PM

Budget breakdown.

Khaos 6500
4 x Full tank 6000
4 x Dyno ????
4 x Emissions Test 2800
Sub-total: P15300

If we can get sponsorships for the dyno, fuel, and emissions testing it would really help.

Ouchie, this is expensive. :P

**Djerms** · April 14th, 2005 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by chase

the claims really DO work. no questions asked. they really DO!
but durability and longevity of your engine has to be taken into consideration as well.

its like taking drugs, u feel good now, but in the long run, what happens?

I agree. Engine durability is important specially to those who value their cars that much. IMO, if the question on engine durability will not be solved, I think people will still be hesitant to use this device. Kahit na sabihin mong minimal lang ang engine wear, kapag may makarinig na engine life will be shorter, madami pa ring aayaw.

**pink_cadillac** · April 14th, 2005 06:34 PM

If it does work then we revisit the engines after a year to inspect for wear.

**chase** · April 14th, 2005 06:45 PM

naku, dagdag na yan sa 15k budget mo...baklas buong makina? tsk tsk..meron mahal din yun ah :D

**pink_cadillac** · April 14th, 2005 06:57 PM

Hence we limit our testing to performance and economy.

They do have a money back guarantee right?

**OTEP** · April 14th, 2005 08:06 PM

*Bench test Khaos for fuel economy the same way the NHTSA tests all vehicles sold in the U.S.A. (procedure can be found in Car&Driver magazine's Road Test Digest section).

*Do durability testing on two identical engines used in an identical fashion. Engines may be bench mounted or not.

**pink_cadillac** · April 14th, 2005 09:19 PM

No contributions?

**mbt** · April 14th, 2005 10:11 PM

if others are willing to ante up, tsikot.com will give P1,000 to this cause. can't give more than that though, we don't have much money hehe.

i have an idea about fuel-economy measurement. to keep things totally repeatable, and to minimize variables, why dont we just fill the tank of a car, then put it up on a lifter and then run it up to a constant 80 kph or 100 kph for around 15 minutes or so? then drive it to a nearby gas station and fill up the tank to get the number of liters consumed. or a different regimen may be employed, say, rev the engine from idle to 4000 rpm repeatedly for 15 minutes to somehow simulate city driving.

for this test, only one car is needed, and because the test protocol is well-controlled, only one before-and-after test needs to performed for conclusive fuel-economy results.