Khaos Super Gas Saver

[wrecker]

Good day to everybody especially to all admirers of khaos like ghosthunter,etc.
Well, im observing this forum quite offen and it seems ghosthunter tried very hard to discredit khaos which everybody appreciated this filipino invention here and abroad, you know mr khaos admirer ghosthunter, why our country still not moving forward because of people like you., so, for me its about time to show up and lets have a formal technical discussion so that you wouldnt feel ghost nor a hunter in your own world anymore, use your bright ideas in a right place and right time, thank and more power to tsikot.com.

WRONG! the reason why the Philippines is lagging behind is because we are trying to dupe one another and always trying to make a quick buck at our fellow Pinoy's expense.

Ang Pinoy naman in his quest to save money tends to blindly gobble up products like this that simply doesn't work!

Don't you feel much better that there are people like GH and the rest who spends time and effort in protecting the consuming public?

[ILuvDetailing]

Well, im observing this forum quite offen and it seems ghosthunter tried very hard to discredit khaos which everybody appreciated this filipino invention here and abroad, you know mr khaos admirer ghosthunter, why our country still not moving forward because of people like you., so, for me its about time to show up and lets have a formal technical discussion so that you wouldnt feel ghost nor a hunter in your own world anymore, use your bright ideas in a right place and right time, thank and more power to tsikot.com.

If Khaos really works, why discredit it? Problem is they still can't come up with a credible answer on Ghosthunters inquiries. Maybe you can shed some light on how Khaos really works. Please post it here if you have some valuable information.

And oh you can look it at another angle, its people like Pablo Planas that drags us down. With no regard to what his device does to the environment.

[carfrancis]

uhmm, commercial lang po.. to those interested, lumabas na ung 2nd part ng "khaos: clearing the air" article sa Inquirer today.

now back to regular programming.. ms. tsinita, wrestling match nb? hehe.. joke lang po! peace!

[mazdamazda]

Good day to everybody especially to all admirers of khaos like ghosthunter,etc.
Well, im observing this forum quite offen and it seems ghosthunter tried very hard to discredit khaos which everybody appreciated this filipino invention here and abroad, you know mr khaos admirer ghosthunter, why our country still not moving forward because of people like you., so, for me its about time to show up and lets have a formal technical discussion so that you wouldnt feel ghost nor a hunter in your own world anymore, use your bright ideas in a right place and right time, thank and more power to tsikot.com.

formal technical discussion?

bring it on big boy...

tony (of fuelsaving.info) was kind enough to summarize all the technical discussions posted here in tsikot about khaos:

http://www.fuelsaving.info/khaos.htm

[ILuvDetailing]

magaling politician si WildFlower.... magaling magdeny.

Just what the world needs, another Uninformed racist

[carlocaraddict]

quoted from PDI today June 1 by tessa salazar:

"If the results were true, Rufi said he would still be wary of Khaos' possible "side effects". "The draw back is if you have extra air in the combustion chamber, you will have NOx(nitrous oxide) because the excess air or oxygen will not be able to react (with fuel) anymore. (The excess air that comes out) will react with hydrogen to form NOx. "That is a pollutant" said Rufo.

In a phone interview on Monday, senior environmental management specialist engineer Arturo Bongco said that DENR is not endorsing Khaos but added that "it is just one test and still inconclusive."


According to the article, they didn't use any dynamometer for testing because it was not available instead the group settled for a road test with a set 100-km route around UP campus.


this really made me laugh:

"In mythodology, Khaos was the name of the goddess of wind or air. Why is it called super turbo charger? It is strictly a preference of Planas for purely marketing reason but there is NOTHING about the device that has to do with turbo charger"


its not a turbo charger pala, its so misleading!!

[theveed]

bisakolang:

Here's a good quote for you to think about..

Closing

Some sceptics, reading this, will say "Western vested interests trying to put down a brave Filipino entrepreneur again". Nothing could be further from the truth - I would be very happy to see a Filipino inventor produce some extraordinary new idea that revolutionises the automotive industry, especially if it benefits the whole planet's environment. My real reasons for pointing out the problems with the KSTC are twofold:

1) It seems that, at the very least, it is being "mis-sold", and I don't like to see people spending their hard-earned money on something that doesn't actually do what is claimed

2) The KSTC, for some reason, appears to have the backing of many influential people in the Philippines. The risk is that this diverts attention from genuine ways to reduce fuel consumption and emissions, which are of course vital. For example, if owners of new cars start removing their catalytic converters and fitting KSTCs instead, the effect on air pollution in Manila could be catastrophic.


NB Nothing on this page should be taken as an accusation of deliberate fraud by Mr Planas or Khaos. I strongly believe Planas is sincere but misguided - a perfect example of the old adage "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing".

Think dude...

Kinda like wondering why fortune tellers need to read other people's fortune to make a living hehe.

[caloyski5]

Good day to everybody especially to all admirers of khaos like ghosthunter,etc.
Well, im observing this forum quite offen and it seems ghosthunter tried very hard to discredit khaos which everybody appreciated this filipino invention here and abroad, you know mr khaos admirer ghosthunter, why our country still not moving forward because of people like you., so, for me its about time to show up and lets have a formal technical discussion so that you wouldnt feel ghost nor a hunter in your own world anymore, use your bright ideas in a right place and right time, thank and more power to tsikot.com.

why discredit? ummm..because GH knows it doesnt work (like most of us) and just doesnt want the Filipinos too look like ichots infront of the whole world

[WeaponX]

Ang lakas ng loob humamon. Hindi kaya nanggugulo lang ang mga iyan?

If they are really that serious defending Khaos, they should have posted their data in the first place.

E wala pa rin...matagal na tayong naghihintay...

[bisakolang]

guys, wake up! you are making noise over the forum and yet you haven't show up, whose GH anyway? what he's background? were talking invention which is very technical, you have so many arguement to address with,why dont you show up?lets have a healthy technical discussion once and for all, i challenge you guys to prove your arguement with khaos hindi lang puro forum, reg. GH taking care of people hard earned money? well, GH what is your technical background and some of you guys criticizing khaos? are you sure that your equipt with technical know how to deal with this invention.? see you soon guys if youre ready.

[aann]

o ayan ready na daw....


sir bisakolang: i believe that you (or Inventionhause) are the one supposed to prove that the product works and not the other way around. If you could just come up with the proper information for this I'm sure everyone in this forum will be glad to read it. And sir please read the previous posts of the members here re: Khaos. They have explained their side quite well in those posts

[ozcity]

i dont know kung na post na ito...

Pinoy invention to be tested in the US
Ben Cal Manila Bulletin

(PNA) - A former logistics engineer of Lockheed Corp., one of the biggest US Defense Manufacturers, yesterday agreed to lobby in the United States a Filipino invention that will reduce car pollution to almost 100 percent.

Planas and Pedery had their initial meeting yesterday afternoon at the former's office in Quezon City to discuss the possibility of marketing the gadget in the US.

The Filipino inventor explained to Pedery how the "Super Turbo Charger" works as an anti-pollution device that is installed in gasoline-driven cars.

Planas said the Khaos gadget, aside from being an anti-pollution device, can also cut by 50 percent the gas consumption.

Pedery was impressed on how the "Super Turbo Charger" works that he offered his help to Planas in penetrating the lucrative US market.

He said he will lobby in Washington to have Planas' invention tested by the US Environmental Protection Agency.

April 04, 2004

Update: Khaos Super Turbo Charger, the Pinoy invention, is now available in Australia, Canada, Egypt, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Korea, Lebanon, Mariana Islands, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Spain, Switzerland, UAE

[BlueBimmer]

teka paulit ulit mga cnasabi ni bisakol a, pwede pakibasa mga previous pages to spare us of repeating our side? pls lng and while you're at it, paki-ayos naman english mo, puro mali e o kaya magtagalog ka nalang, to spare us the headache of reading your posts.

[morrissey_05]

bisakol,

show real proof Khaos works. Or else, shut up na lang!

ilang beses na namin hinihingi yan pero ala naman kayo mapakita. kaya tumahimik ka na lang pag ala kang mapapakita na pruweba. ayan nag-Tagalog na ako para maintindihan mo ng mabuti. nahihilo ako sa Ingles mo eh.

[caloyski5]

please read the previous previous posts..dami na naglabas ng info re: the khaos gadget..pero from the khaos side. nil. errr..some of these guys are well-versed with technical know how some konti (like me)..some of us know each other, some of us dont..tsikot is not just a pure forum but a barkada or community..i believe ghosthunter is very much knowledgeable in what he is talking about.

[mbt]

bisakolang,

let me indulge you for a moment...

you just may be surprised at the level of technical aptitude of some of our members here.

before ghosthunter introduces himself, perhaps it would only be fair that you do the same for yourself, gentleman. who are you? what is your background? are you connected with the inventor of KSTC or the distributor firm in any way?

that said, don't you think the technical arguments and queries on this thread stand on their own ground? i would think so. maybe you should read up yourself first before questioning the credibility of the members who ask.

[ILuvDetailing]

bisakolang:

(Mod edit: ILD, maybe its best if we let GH introduce himself personally hehe.) How about you? Can you please introduce yourself instead of badgering us? I beg to differ with you point of view, IMO a forum is one of the best ways to exchange idea's and information. Why is there a need to meet when you can post your information here?

[mbt]

plus, what are you insinuating? that only people who have a Ph.D in rocket science are qualified to dissect this KSTC, which from the looks of it, is nothing more than a collection of valves, foam, and a can?

and that therefore, all those who do not have a Ph.D in rocketry should buy Mr. Planas' gospel hook, line, and sinker, by virtue of their being too dumb to understand?

it appears to me that inventionahus is counting on dumbness to sell this thing.

[theveed]

ozcity: I'd wait for a US published report for this hehe, mga local journalists are riding this Khaos thing as well.

[caloyski5]

the war has started..... :fight: