E10 Ethanol, bad for your engine & economy? [MERGED]

[oj88]

Are they saying that all gasoline cars are affected?

The article (or Petron) made a serious oversight by not specifying the kind of car or engine and fuel system they did their tests on, whether it's E10-compatible or not.

[niky]

The problem is that not all cars are e10 compatible and many motorcycles which provide transport and livelihood for the "masa", are not. If the government forces companies to blend ethanol into all gasolines... we're in big trouble.

Er... yeah. The car would be size of a Corolla but half the car is the CNG tank, 1/4 is the modified diesel engine and the last 1/4 is the single seat for the driver.

Are you talking about my car? Diba paunahan tayo sa dami ng mods?

I have the LPG... then I'll get the alcohol injection... then the E85 emulator from SeaOil... ...just don't know where I'll fit the CNG tank...

[p_borj]

I gas both my cars at Flying V San Juan branch, meron silang E10 Unleaded and pure unleaded hehe. Tinanong ko sila baka kasi inuubos nalang ang stock na pure gas, ayun, basta ang kailangan lang pala eh bawat oil company ay may E10 product so ako eh solve naman.

[CVT]

EDIT:

I decided to fill the tank up with premium unleaded after reading this. I haven't seen an E10 info sign on the pump, so it may be "real" gasoline. Premium gas yielded better mileage. I won't fill it up with unleaded again.

Bro.,- if your gasoline is Shell, - then all of their variants,- unleaded, premium and V-Power are e10-blended.......

8601:matrix:

[laBorer]

Are they saying that all gasoline cars are affected?

The article (or Petron) made a serious oversight by not specifying the kind of car or engine and fuel system they did their tests on, whether it's E10-compatible or not.

for their own reasons, it may seem that petron purposely left out what the car manufacturers had to say . for example, honda cars philippines has this to say regarding vehicles that are and are not compatible with e10: http://www.hondaphil.com/ver2/e10.php

as for other philippine cars: http://www.biofuelshub.com/features/...ich-car-models

e10 has been in use for years in other countries and the issues mentioned by petron in the article have all been discussed in detail. just google...

[oj88]

for their own reasons, it may seem that petron purposely left out what the car manufacturers had to say . for example, honda cars philippines has this to say regarding vehicles that are and are not compatible with e10: http://www.hondaphil.com/ver2/e10.php

as for other philippine cars: http://www.biofuelshub.com/features/...ich-car-models

e10 has been in use for years in other countries and the issues mentioned by petron in the article have all been discussed in detail. just google...

Thanks. But my point is, without them specifically stating if E10 compatible cars are exempt from their study, it can be construed that such cars are also affected. And by extension, it contradicts Honda's or other car manufacturers' position on the use of E10 in cars supposedly designed for E10 blended fuel.

In other words, if I'm driving a non-E10 compatible car, I am in a position to complain if the government would mandate the use of E10 exclusively. However, if I'm already driving an E10 compatible car, should I be worried?

[ghosthunter]

However, if I'm already driving an E10 compatible car, should I be worried?

Not as much but your fuel mileage will still suffer due to the ethanol in the gasoline.

[renzo_d10]

Heh. Maybe the only way they could protect motorist is to first, replace the Xtra Unleaded gasoline with blended ethanol to the original one, the pure one.

I`ll just continue fueling my car up with XCS, i`ll switch to xtra unleaded if they bring back the pure one.

[mreyes]

been reading this thread. filled 2x with unleaded e10 of shell and now i'm, trying the super premium. so far ok naman sya.

so if all the shell products have e10, does petron and caltex have products that doesn't have e10?

tia!

[roberto_minosa]

Bro.,- if your gasoline is Shell, - then all of their variants,- unleaded, premium and V-Power are e10-blended.......

8601:matrix:

In that case, the E10 Premium yields better mileage. But I'd try XCS next time and see what happens.