Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[ghosthunter]

carwise: Are you implying that you can source out this more modern LPG conversion system? Please elaborate.

Actually there are closed loop LPG systems. The current LPG kits available locally are the open loop type which are cheaper.

[ghosthunter]

LPG kit accessories (UK site):
http://www.iwemalpg.com/Components.htm



This is what the current LPG open system needs to operate more efficiently


This Photo shows the ECOmax . The ECOmax is a vacuum controlled main flow adjuster which is included in the Typhoon and the HURRICANE LPG systems.
The ECOmax regulates the LPG flow according to the engine load.
During full load the LPG/air mixture will be a little rich and during partual load the LPG/air mixture will be a little lean. The result is an engine that runs economically and will give maximum power on demand.

[woodfire]

interesting post by GH about IWEMA systems I'm very interested in IWEMA's Tornado 450 system which they use for powerful old V8 engines. A good example is the LPG Tornado system used in the 1969 El Camino with a 350 V8 engine.

[ghosthunter]

interesting post by GH about IWEMA systems I'm very interested in IWEMA's Tornado 450 system which they use for powerful old V8 engines. A good example is the LPG Tornado system used in the 1969 El Camino with a 350 V8 engine.

Too bad those system aren't available locally yet.

[ghosthunter]

I wondering if anyone here has feedback from people who have their cars converted to LPG by MACRO?

[ghosthunter]

Here is a website of a korean company who sells complete LPG conversion kits and parts as well.

http://www.hanalpg.com/

[woodfire]

This is a IWEMA Tornado system installed in a 1971 Firebird Transam V8 engine:



This system would cost about Eur 1,500+ (multiply by 70 to convert to peso)!

If the classic car is a keeper, the LPG system may enable you to make it a daily driver.

[carwise]

oo naman sir,kaya natin i source yung lpg kit.last year project ko pa yan,when i got the info from ministry of energy na PI is considering the use of LPG and CNG,i made inquiry and at the same time actual fitting of different lpg kit.for now were are fitting the,maclaren,prins and the italians witch are very much advnce compared to the ones in PI ill be coming home later this year with the sample para sa 1 explorer and 1 bimmer,price wise medyo mahal but then cutting edge tech na ito.eu spect sa tank 28 bar pressure minimum,may torroidal tank witch can fit in the spare tire well,pati copper pipes coated with rubberized plastic to overcome abbrasion. and other feature like auto leak shut off valve,auto switching from gas to lpg,micro fuel gauge,dito mga most of our custumer dun sa lpg conversion co. they buy the more expensive car like 5,7 series na bimmer,v8 na grand cherokee,land rovers,merc na 320 up saka jag, may jap din na 2 litros .the concept is buy a big car, look rich but the spend less on fuel and keep the car for longer.di ba ok yun,the the gud thing is the same engine can be converted to CNG pag naka market na,well palit ka mga lang ng kit,

[woodfire]

oo naman sir,kaya natin i source yung lpg kit.last year project ko pa yan,when i got the info from ministry of energy na PI is considering the use of LPG and CNG,i made inquiry and at the same time actual fitting of different lpg kit.

Hey, CARWISE, very interesting post! Can you source for me a kit for: (1) Ford F150 Triton V8 engine; and (2) classic Mustang '67 with a 289c.i. V8 engine with a 4-barrel edelbrock carburetor?

You can PM or email me at woodfire*info.com.ph

THANKS!

[carwise]

mga sir just to let you know, if you are planning to get a LPG kit buy the best 1 it pays off ,kc considering ang optimum air and fuel mixture eh 15.1 to 1, laki ng diperensia then adjust mo.pag dating mo sa tagaytay or baguio iba na yan kasi iba na air density dun.but if youll be buying the better 1 self adusting yan kasi theyre getting the proportion from the o2 sensors. lpg sa pinas mixture ng prophane at buthane medyo marumi, so may servisable filter dapat,then the parameters are not to be set manually, the new tech copy's the original manufaturers parameter then the LPG ecu will do the rest so optimum efficiency is obtainable,that goes as well with the toque ratio,the auto change over sa lpg just takes 5 to 10 second,ganun ka bilis..here are some systems na you guys have to watch for.fuel tech. by maclaren, prins (evs) from holland and several italian made.all are cutting edge tech and tested .TY

[userfriendly]

Carwise, when will this become available locally? I'm looking for a kit for my Chevy Venture (3.0 V6 AT) and my Nissan Cefiro A32 (2.0 V6 AT 24 valve). You can pm me.

[ghosthunter]

Carwise, when will this become available locally? I'm looking for a kit for my Chevy Venture (3.0 V6 AT) and my Nissan Cefiro A32 (2.0 V6 AT 24 valve). You can pm me.

If the price is right, it won't just be you who will be looking for that LPG conversion kit.

[Chip]

Hey, CARWISE, very interesting post! Can you source for me a kit for: (1) Ford F150 Triton V8 engine; and (2) classic Mustang '67 with a 289c.i. V8 engine with a 4-barrel edelbrock carburetor?

You can PM or email me at woodfire*info.com.ph

THANKS!

Uy sir woodfire, gagawing dailer driver ang mustang

[jvm13]

so do you guys think that converting to lpg now is still a value for money even though yung mga lpg kits dito are not as modern as compared to those in othr countries?

[carwise]

mga sir at mam pwede naman share ko sa inyo info pati avalability,just send me your email ads at forward ko sa inyo ang info,availability? lang problem.basta intresado kayo k lang.isa pa sinong may kelangan ng fuel station na lpg kung ayaw ni shell mag dagdag ng station.bili ka lang ng big bottlle ng lpg may sarili ka ng station.yes kulang talaga ng support ang petrolium co. dyan sa atin . but may solution dyan then later on we dont need to ask them for the station sila na mag lalagay coz they will loose lpg bussines pag marami na tayong user,

[ghosthunter]

so do you guys think that converting to lpg now is still a value for money even though yung mga lpg kits dito are not as modern as compared to those in othr countries?

Think of it this way, if you get the more modern LPG kits, it will cost more too which will make it unviable for most people.

[ghosthunter]

isa pa sinong may kelangan ng fuel station na lpg kung ayaw ni shell mag dagdag ng station.bili ka lang ng big bottlle ng lpg may sarili ka ng station.yes kulang talaga ng support ang petrolium co. dyan sa atin . but may solution dyan then later on we dont need to ask them for the station sila na mag lalagay coz they will loose lpg bussines pag marami na tayong user,

Actually this is not possible. To load LPG, you will need a high pressure system to force LPG from the storage tank into the car's tank. It's not just a matter of connecting a hose between the two.

[topgun]

people we dont need th modern lpg system naman the present system marketed by naiadss is sufficient to get the job done,

hirap kasi sa atin gusto natin yung mahal akala natin mas maganda o mas magaling.

ako i have been using my lpg kit so far i have logged 9km / liter of LPG fuel i dont know lang the next time i take a reading kasi mixed highway and city driving ako

[ghosthunter]

people we dont need th modern lpg system naman the present system marketed by naiadss is sufficient to get the job done,

hirap kasi sa atin gusto natin yung mahal akala natin mas maganda o mas magaling.

from what I heard, the NAIADSS lpg kit can be a hit & miss kind of thing. Example is the CRV gen1 owner I talked to. He said his LPG consumption is very bad, almost the same cost as gasoline. Adding to that, he did mention some idling problems and lower engine power.

For me, it might not be the fault of the kit itself but the lack of engine re-tuning done after the LPG kit was installed. It was never mentioned that you will need to adjust the ignition timing 10 degrees advance to run LPG correctly.

ako i have been using my lpg kit so far i have logged 9km / liter of LPG fuel i dont know lang the next time i take a reading kasi mixed highway and city driving ako

You might get good milage with your setup but at the cost of having less power. Imagine if you can get the same milage (or better) and same horsepower of gasoline jsut by getting a more modern LPG kit.

Lets see what can be worked out. Right now we might work on a modern retrofit system for the NAIADSS EFI kits.

[jvm13]

so Gh, if i get my 2.8L carb v6 benz converted i have to adjust the timing by 10 degrees? is that hard to do?