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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    A sub-type is the venturi-mixer closed-loop with emulator which is supposed be to somewhere inbetween (2) and (3) in terms of cost, fuel mileage and performance benefits. But since only EROOM is the only one selling such systems, it's usually included with the (2) classification.
    sir GH, i think Ambient has closed loop system also using Tartarini kit.

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    GH,

    Am looking at installing on our company's 10 units suzuki multicabs, all using carb system. But the reason why I am also looking at the others, I am trying to see if it is worth it recommending for the altis, and even my brother's xtrail and expedition in manila. According to naiads, the altis needs to use the sgi, not the efi, even if the altis is an efi engine. With the price difference so wide, sometimes I have to ask: whats the catch with the cheaper? Or is the more expensive ones really superior?

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    Quote Originally Posted by altec View Post
    GH,

    Am looking at installing on our company's 10 units suzuki multicabs, all using carb system. But the reason why I am also looking at the others, I am trying to see if it is worth it recommending for the altis, and even my brother's xtrail and expedition in manila. According to naiads, the altis needs to use the sgi, not the efi, even if the altis is an efi engine. With the price difference so wide, sometimes I have to ask: whats the catch with the cheaper? Or is the more expensive ones really superior?
    Er... based on my last price survey of NAIADSS, they are still more expensive than some of the other auto-lpg conversion companies like GREENFUEL, GREENGAS & EROOM.

    Anyway, Corolla Altis will run with a venturi-mixer system but the SGI kit is better for that car. The SGI system offers better fuel mileage than the venturi-mixer kit. It also offers less engine power loss and less maintenance too. A venturi-mixer system requires periodic maintenance of the air filter to maintain optimum operation.

    As for actually recommending your cars to be converted, depends on you. Converting to auto-lpg will save you money but it will void any warranty you still have on the car. The tank will also take up some space, might it be the cylinder or donut tank. If you plan to sell the car soon, best NOT to convert.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; July 28th, 2008 at 04:42 PM.

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    yehey tapos na conversion sa altis ko heheheh kaso color coding ako ngayon kaya bukas ko pa pick up in hehehehe .... i'm thinking why buy/build an expensive cover for it ? nasa loob naman ng trunk yan e hehehhee ..... i'm thinking og just covering it with the same carpet fabric as the one that covers the trunk ..... specially since the tank itself is pretty tough .... only concern is safety i guess wether covering it up could increase temperatures.

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    Kakakuha lang ng brother ko ng Space wagon niya with LPG... may na notice lang kami na pag nag switch from gas to LPG may sound na parang may screw driver na tumamasa tank... parang "Tong" or gong... medjo malakas din siya...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1997 View Post
    Kakakuha lang ng brother ko ng Space wagon niya with LPG... may na notice lang kami na pag nag switch from gas to LPG may sound na parang may screw driver na tumamasa tank... parang "Tong" or gong... medjo malakas din siya...
    The "TONG" sound is the solenoid switching open for the LPG to flow at the tank side.

    BTW, why did your brother choose a cylinder tank for the Space Wagon? A Donut tank would give him a more useful cargo area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    The "TONG" sound is the solenoid switching open for the LPG to flow at the tank side.

    BTW, why did your brother choose a cylinder tank for the Space Wagon? A Donut tank would give him a more useful cargo area.
    Baka kasi sobrang mababa yung space wagon... kaya Mike and my brother decided just to install a cylindrical tank at the back and move the 3d row seat a little bit... Generally the installation is clean...

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    Sirs,

    Any adverse effect if a car not equipped with an O2 sensor (94 corolla) have an SGI kit installed?

    Or would it just be a performance loss from an optimum standpoint?
    That is, not maximizing the potential of an SGI kit.

    If possible to equip without an O2 sensor, can I subsequently install an O2 sensor after the SGI kit installation? I heard that the O2 sensor seems to be expensive.

    Thanks. I'm planning to have an LPG conversion kit the soonest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tediber View Post
    yehey tapos na conversion sa altis ko heheheh kaso color coding ako ngayon kaya bukas ko pa pick up in hehehehe .... i'm thinking why buy/build an expensive cover for it ? nasa loob naman ng trunk yan e hehehhee ..... i'm thinking og just covering it with the same carpet fabric as the one that covers the trunk ..... specially since the tank itself is pretty tough
    The cover simply makes it look better whenever you open the trunk. It's mostly a personal choice and based on the owner's taste if they want a bare tank or a custom false wall, etc to cover it up.

    .... only concern is safety i guess wether covering it up could increase temperatures.
    Shouldn't be a problem. It would take a car-fire to make the tank react and start purging it's contents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happy gilmore View Post
    saw the pictures of the "disguised" lpg tank, di kaya risky yun? lpg is usually odorless. artificial odor is placed with the lpg so that if may leak, malalaman agad. if the lpg tank is concealed / covered, di kaya ma-delay or ma-diffuse yung odor so that you might not be able to detect if may leak cya?
    No, it's not risky. If you can't smell the odor in the car, it also means there is no LPG gas in the cabin. The design of the auto-lpg system vents any leaked gas to the under side of the car to be dispersed into the surrounding area.

    If you want to check if your multi-valve is leaking, simply open the multi-valve housing and poke your nose in for a whiff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezem View Post
    sir GH, i think Ambient has closed loop system also using Tartarini kit.
    thanks for the info.

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    hehhehe oki thanks ..... takpan ko na lang carpet material .... tipid mode e.

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