Alcohol Injection Demo 22mar08 / CLARK

[4JGtootsie]

Paring Edwin,

Php 7500 sabi niya Mura na yon kasi walang shiping, taxes(3k ba namn hingi sa akin, loko ba sila!!) and no wait.
Inimbita ko si Carl C. yung bumili ng mags ko to come and bring friends. Ikaw invite mo cousin mo. EB na tayo. Dagdagan mo na baon mong cash para pang happy happy natin.

[20vanda01]

Sir 4jtotsie,

Ok sir holiday naman pala.. Wala po tau magiging probleme sa sked. Magkano po ulit binebenta ni Sir DVLDOC ung devise para if ever makapg dala na baon para makapag pa kabit na din.. Hehe

Possible tester.
1. 4JG2-TC (no need to install I have installed it already taps and T even a boost and EGT gauge.) Assistant or translator na lang
2. diesoline (tentative)
3.batosai
4.niwde11
5. 20vanda01
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* DVLDOC, its good to hear that it will be compatible to my engine... can my engine/transmission be able to stand with the additonal HP? Which one should I order the Diesel Stage 1 kit or the Stage 2 kit?

[dvldoc]

You can control how much power you decide to add by adjusting your mix, less alcohol less power but even with strait water you will see a nice gain.

Stage one is a boost activated kit, you set the psi or bar you want it to come on at and it will activate the system at that point at 100%

Stage 2, is a progressive controller kit, The controller takes a 5 volt reference source such as a manifold air pressure sensor, throttle position sensor or mass air flow sensor and increase the amount of alcohol sprayed in proportion to that, It give you alot more control over your system.

Turbo diesels work very well with both, You can always upgrade your kit later but for now I would stick with the stage one because it is pretty much bullet proof. There is no telling the voltage range of your sensors our unit is based on the GM 2Bar and 3bar scale. If your sensor read different voltage the system will not work correctly. Besides we will have a new controller that is comming out in about 2 months.

Stick with the stage one for now.

[4JGtootsie]

1. 4JG2-TC
2. diesoline
3. batosai
4. niwde11
5. 20vanda01
6. ADAMSAPPLE
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Four more to go!
I think peeps from Pampanga, Bulacan and Nueva Ecija are monitoring this thread, lucky them they dont have to drive from Manila.
Hope we can invite Turbo to come so we get to meet the "man"

[drey]

Pwede ba sumali? Di ako tester pero kasama sa crowd lang.

[4JGtootsie]

Drey,

You are most welcome, just sign up to confirm your attendance.
March 22 1pm Clark Field Pampanga.
Invite your turbo diesel friends.

[dvldoc]

Some questions on how to order came up. thought I would put it on both post so it gets addressed.

Just sign up on the site www.alcohol-injection.com

You will be ordering the Universal Stage 1 kit (Low boost) 2-12psi

or the High boost (12-30psi) kit

DO NOT ORDER THE DIESEL KIT (That is for US version TDI engines only)

In the comments section put (M2-M3-M5 NOZZLES) This range covers all passenger vehicles there)

Once you get to the check out and after the card info is entered, Put in the code: salamat and hit redeem this will auto adjust the Price and shipping to the discounted price. the proceed with check out. Paypal is not excepted from the PI on the site because of the security settings.

PAYPAL USER

Send payment of 195USD to sales*alcohol-injection.com

Subject: Philippines group buy

In the comments section : Universal Stage 1 kit M2-M3-M5 nozzles
Code: Salamat

[4JGtootsie]

1. 4JG2-TC
2. diesoline
3. batosai
4. niwde11
5. 20vanda01
6. ADAMSAPPLE
7. Trekker_1967 (will buy kit)
8.
9.
10.

[dazzler]

Some questions on how to order came up. thought I would put it on both post so it gets addressed.

Just sign up on the site www.alcohol-injection.com

You will be ordering the Universal Stage 1 kit (Low boost) 2-12psi

or the High boost (12-30psi) kit

DO NOT ORDER THE DIESEL KIT (That is for US version TDI engines only)

In the comments section put (M2-M3-M5 NOZZLES) This range covers all passenger vehicles there)

Once you get to the check out and after the card info is entered, Put in the code: salamat and hit redeem this will auto adjust the Price and shipping to the discounted price. the proceed with check out. Paypal is not excepted from the PI on the site because of the security settings.

PAYPAL USER

Send payment of 195USD to sales*alcohol-injection.com

Subject: Philippines group buy

In the comments section : Universal Stage 1 kit M2-M3-M5 nozzles
Code: Salamat

After receipt dito sa pinas, sino ho ba ang puedeng kumabit nito? may recommended shop ho ba kayo? paki post naman tel no and location preferably within manila area or metro manila.

[dvldoc]

more install pics so you can see the quality of our parts. We use all nickel plate brass which will last a lifetime. This is a picture of the nozzle holder and our custom 16psi check valve.

[dvldoc]

Performance meter testing will be availible for this event, we can measure 0-60mph/96kph testing to see the change in HP with and without alcohol injection as well as hp messurement with the accelerometer, make sure you know your vehicles weight for the HP testing.

This way you get some real world numbers to pass on and post.

[johnqpublic318]

1. 4JG2-TC
2. diesoline
3. batosai
4. niwde11
5. 20vanda01
6. ADAMSAPPLE
7. Trekker_1967 (will buy kit)
8. johnqpublic318 (NA Patrol or Everest)
9.
10.

[4JGtootsie]

Devildoc,

Am I right that only those who register their names here are eligible to win in the raffle draw for the stage 1 watermet injection? Those on the list must actually be there to be able to win. I am just clarifying the rules so everybody understands.

1. 4JG2-TC
2. diesoline
3. batosai
4. niwde11
5. 20vanda01
6. ADAMSAPPLE
7. Trekker_1967 (will buy kit)
8. johnqpublic318 (NA Patrol or Everest)
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[johnqpublic318]

Or should a pre-purchase be required to qualify?

[4JGtootsie]

To quote Dvldoc:
"I will still be giving away one full stage 1 kit if we have at least 10 people to show up. That kit is worth almost 9000P so you have a pretty good chance of winning it."

I guess there is no obligation to purchase. A good gesture on the part of DVLDOC.

I think he wants to create awareness of such a device that we Filipinos havent really understood for what it really is. Lytspid is one of the first to talk about it in the forum, since then I did research on it. The 10 (or plus) people will be the witnesses or maybe critics of this product.

Did some reading on it and I havent heard of any damaging effects as long as you have the settings, nozzles, mixture and installed it right.

Questions from rust formation, type of alchohol, boost setting, over delivery was easily solved. Maybe the only draw back is how to refill the meth once it runs out without stopping the car (solution was installing a bigger storage tank)

Got this from Diesel World Magazine Nov 2007/TECH MATTERS.

Q: What do you know about using steam (i.e water injection) to reduce NOx....

A: Yes,water,which turns to steam once inside the engine, can be used to reduce NOx. Oxides of Nitrogen occur as a by product of combustion in turbine, gasoline and diesel engines. NOx is thought to be a significant smog forming components in the atmosphere..... High-peak combustion temperature are responsible for the production of NOx.... In fact test have shown that water (or a water/alchohol mixture) injected into the intake air can reduce intake air temperature by up to 200F in a turbocharged diesel engine. The process converting liquid water to steam removes considerable amount of the heat present in compressed intake air. Reducing intake air temperature can reduce the combustion temperature by about the same amount.... EGT is the primary power limiter in a diesel engine. If you can lower EGT, you can add more boost and fuel-to make more power.

[dvldoc]

Yes chances of winning the kit are pretty darn good, plus you can keep it or turn right around and sell it, I promise you after the demo everyone will want it.

With alcohol injection your going to see at least 20% HP gains with no other changes to your vehicle, add a simple manual boost controller and raise your boost by about 3 to 4 psi and your talking up to 30hp on top of that without increased exhaust gas temps.

There are absolutely no down sides to it when the proper parts are used and it is installed correctly. This is not something you want to go cheap on.

And with ethyl rubbing alcohol (113 octane) so cheap and available there at your local pharmacy or grocer your set. It comes in 70% so you can water it down 4 times to get a good 20% or mix it at 50/50 for max power.

Those that are demo vehicles will be able to see this first hand as well as all who attend.

[4JGtootsie]

1. 4JG2-TC
2. diesoline
3. batosai
4. niwde11
5. 20vanda01
6. ADAMSAPPLE
7. Trekker_1967 (will buy kit)
8. johnqpublic318 (NA Patrol or Everest)
9. Ryan17 (will buy kit/ installation demo?)
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[edtf]

Will you be passing manila? Can we just buy it locally from you instead of ordering it on the net? Who can install it here in Manila? Looks pretty interesting

[dvldoc]

Will you be passing manila? Can we just buy it locally from you instead of ordering it on the net? Who can install it here in Manila? Looks pretty interesting

We don't have any retailers in the Philippines yet, and this is one of the reasons for the even to spread the information about the systems. For now you will have to order through the net.

If you can't make the event I can do the same thing I did for another forum member, gave them a special discount code that included shipping from Angeles city to them at a different location in the Philippines. If you live in Manila I can get it delivered to you.

Install can be done by just about anyone who can follow directions, You should have no problems doing it yourself. You just need simple hand tools, a drill, and there is basic wiring to do.

If you buy a kit and have me bring it to the event I will do my best to get it installed or at least do the nozzle mounting, and wiring for you. I can actually pre wire everything were you only have to hook up 3 connections as long as you order in enough time.

[4JGtootsie]

Installation is not that complcated.
Its like installing a horn(busina) and an alarm(slightly).
Its just relay wiring and tapping from the ignition wire from the main harness. Your neighborhood electrical shop will be suitable for the job.
Instruction are very clear verything was supplied in the kit except the T and the vacuum hose. This things are readily available by the feet at any auto supply for 10 pesos the T I think a little more.

The thread will be available for your installation questions. I hope to see installation pictures from other tsikot peeps who have installed their unit so others will be guided on how and where to install the pump, to slip the wire and most of all to position the nozzle. Different vehicles have different intake design so it will be helpfull if we can send pictures on where it can best installed.