Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
Not necessarily true. Better clutches, Rev matching on downshifts, lighter transmissions, better feel, stronger shift forks, automated manuals, etc are all avenues of development that can be pursued.

Just saying that all the automakers and all the R&D has moved on and away from manuals except for 1 off performance variants and econo applications.

yeah that's what i'm saying. they only do R&D if there's ROI so they're not going to improve upon the 80's or 90's m/t for use in the current-gen base model econocars. and the improvements you've mentioned are likely implemented in niche products already, unlikely to trickle down to econoboxes for cost reasons

as for f/c:

slushboxes are inefficient, that's just the nature of the beast.

DCT is like a computer controlled m/t with odd gears on one clutch and even gears in another clutch. so just like m/t the fc depends on how smart the "driver" i.e. tranny computer, is

CVT is the most fuel-efficient

AMT is like a single-clutch DCT