VIOS or SENTRA or CITY or JAZZ

[niky]

You might want to read this before you get the 2007 sentra 1.3:

http://www.nissanbayan.com/forums/in...t=1252404&st=0

Well... most of those are rattles... and there are lots of similar complaints for early Honda City sedans.

The shocks thing is distressing, though... seems Nissan still uses shocks that are too soft. But the issue is the same on some Corollas. Soft shocks plus lowering = blown shocks.

[dhel]

First of all I'm quite amazed at this thread, correct me if I'm wrong but does the sentra even belong in this group of subcompacts?... Sorry just a newbie and balikbayan here. Actually never that familiar with those city and vios? just now that I see those small cars. .. familiar with the honda fit aka jazz, nissan versa and toyota yaris.

sad to say but i'm not a fan of the new sentras. there is a reason why they are not selling as well as toyota and honda. don't get me wrong, i used to drive a SS sentra eccs nung college pa ko which i loved very much. but the latter models simply did not have any "appeal". kya cguro ang lakas mgbigay ng freebies and discounts ng nissan dealerships...to quote a popular car mag "nissan needs to start making great cars again and not just great car commercials" plus of the 3 cars, sentra had the most number of complaints kahit brand new. hopefully narectify na ng nissan phils yng mga concerns na yun with their new models bago pa tuluyng masira reputation nila...

wooow... is Nissan Phil. really that bad?! or your just specifying a particular model only w/c unfrotunately is their best seller- the local sentra N16 (too bad you don't have the experience of owning a b15, back in cali..it's grrrrreat! ;)). Considering nissan together with toyota and honda are called the Big 3 Japanese automakers worlwdide? My brother here uses a local 2005 "phatrol", I never hear him complaining about it the way he is to he's fortuner... and from my more "mature" relatives input here (ones that works and has a bit of high position in ther buss. sector here) its is still according to them one of the major players here in the local automotive buss.

[cd!]

First of all I'm quite amazed at this thread, correct me if I'm wrong but does the sentra even belong in this group of subcompacts?... Sorry just a newbie and balikbayan here. Actually never that familiar with those city and vios? just now that I see those small cars. .. familiar with the honda fit aka jazz, nissan versa and toyota yaris.

wooow... is Nissan Phil. really that bad?! or your just specifying a particular model only w/c unfrotunately is their best seller- the local sentra N16 (too bad you don't have the experience of owning a b15, back in cali..it's grrrrreat! ;)). Considering nissan together with toyota and honda are called the Big 3 Japanese automakers worlwdide? My brother here uses a local 2005 "phatrol", I never hear him complaining about it the way he is to he's fortuner... and from my more "mature" relatives input here (ones that works and has a bit of high position in ther buss. sector here) its is still according to them one of the major players here in the local automotive buss.

Sentra is included in this comparison, coz first they are almost at the same price range, and they are all 1.3, maybe sa inyo sa states wala ng corny 1.3 engine for the sentra.
Well, nissan the brand suffers from bad rep before pa... you know naman how we pinoys are so into the "sabi ni ano.. ganyan daw yan... etc." It's reasons such as pricey parts, questionable quality daw... etc. same thing happened for sometime to mitsu, mazda lalo na korean cars.. but that's not all true. Coming from you who has been in the west its a totally diff. story outside the Phil. huh?. I don't blame you. But It's the N16 that has been in the lemon side of things these past few months for nissan, but it's more of the kalampag story lang naman... Funny thing is I know some who is in the taxi buss. ok namn daw N16 nila (vios and N16 1.3 sentra are used as cabs here). other local nissan cars naman are all good. But it's spot in the Big 3 Japanese car maker worldwide will not be affected, pero dito it is...

Hey buti ka pa nakakita na ng B15!! You drove it? I've heard the B13 and B15 made the biggest impact in the sentra series in the west, tama ba?

As for the choices it will be the li'l Jazz for me.. roomy ha for it's size and good lookin. The sentra also maganda esp. pag black (stock paint) or custom painted..watch out lang for pag napunta sayo yung may kalampag.. ha ha. City and vios, never did like how they look kahit pormahan parang "trying hard" in my personal opinion lang ha, but quality wise esp. the vios is good, city may lemony side din as per some friends who owns the said car.

[necrobar]

I got valuable inputs in here. Great thread for someone new to car stuff! I am also having trouble deciding between toyota 07 vios and honda city/jazz. Is it still advisable to buy a city/jazz since probably in the upcoming months honda might release a new (and I presume better) city/jazz models? Piliin ko na sana yung new vios but the AT model is beyond my budget. Same as sir jing, my budget is only around 650K. I really like the looks and stance of jazz but nakakahinayang naman bumili kung may lalabas bigla na bagong generation.

Thanks!

Glad to have discovered this forum.

[Lucius]

Nandito na naman tong "batopeek" na troll na to? Di ka dapat dito sa tsikot!

[blue1108]

...mukhang msyado mraming spare time c sir batopeek...
sensya na sir, hindi po kmi hanap away dito. mghanap n lng kyo ng ibang pagtitripan. bkit hindi k n lng mag abang sa macapagal at dun mo ilabas yng tapang mo...

[jedi]

i soft deleted the post of this flamer, anyway... tuloy ang discussion he is now banned

[ale828]

I got valuable inputs in here. Great thread for someone new to car stuff! I am also having trouble deciding between toyota 07 vios and honda city/jazz. Is it still advisable to buy a city/jazz since probably in the upcoming months honda might release a new (and I presume better) city/jazz models? Piliin ko na sana yung new vios but the AT model is beyond my budget. Same as sir jing, my budget is only around 650K. I really like the looks and stance of jazz but nakakahinayang naman bumili kung may lalabas bigla na bagong generation.

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The New look Jazz will come out in Japan late this year, It will be unveiled only at the upcoming Tokyo Motor show. so expected time to arrive in our shores is probably Late 2008 or early 2009. That the earliest. The current jazz came out in the Phil in the middle to last quarter of 2004 but came out in japan in 2002. The new jazz might not immediately come out here probably a 1-2 year wait for the new model especially if the new Jazz will sell like hotcakes in other parts of the world and manufacturing production can't keep up with demand.

So you can get the jazz without worrying about a new model coming out. Plus Honda resale value is solid and very good and expect to sell the Jazz at a better value than if you got a Sentra.

[necrobar]

Thank you sir ale828! the decision then is already made for me. tagal pa pala nun. we are 2 years behind pala in terms of new models. I'll go with the jazz then. see you all on the road...

[Hank]

Just bought a Sentra. Best looking of the lot & I sure don't have problems with the one I just bought. I am happy with it and am using it for relaxed drives. The Hyundai Getz CRDi is a better choice if you are looking for economy, quality, and performance. Forget about resale value... a car is not an investment... when buying one, you should think of economy of operation, fit and finish, as well as the sheer joy of driving it. I'd just buy a Honda Jazz or City for my sister... its such an eyesore, I couldn't care less if she dents it a thousand times or drives it like a bump car as long as she doesn't hurt anyone else.

[richie29]

well said brad-hank...amen

[dhel]

Sentra is included in this comparison, coz first they are almost at the same price range, and they are all 1.3, maybe sa inyo sa states wala ng corny 1.3 engine for the sentra.
Well, nissan the brand suffers from bad rep before pa... you know naman how we pinoys are so into the "sabi ni ano.. ganyan daw yan... etc." It's reasons such as pricey parts, questionable quality daw... etc. same thing happened for sometime to mitsu, mazda lalo na korean cars.. but that's not all true. Coming from you who has been in the west its a totally diff. story outside the Phil. huh?. I don't blame you. But It's the N16 that has been in the lemon side of things these past few months for nissan, but it's more of the kalampag story lang naman... Funny thing is I know some who is in the taxi buss. ok namn daw N16 nila (vios and N16 1.3 sentra are used as cabs here). other local nissan cars naman are all good. But it's spot in the Big 3 Japanese car maker worldwide will not be affected, pero dito it is...

Hey buti ka pa nakakita na ng B15!! You drove it? I've heard the B13 and B15 made the biggest impact in the sentra series in the west, tama ba?

As for the choices it will be the li'l Jazz for me.. roomy ha for it's size and good lookin. The sentra also maganda esp. pag black (stock paint) or custom painted..watch out lang for pag napunta sayo yung may kalampag.. ha ha. City and vios, never did like how they look kahit pormahan parang "trying hard" in my personal opinion lang ha, but quality wise esp. the vios is good, city may lemony side din as per some friends who owns the said car.

The New look Jazz will come out in Japan late this year, It will be unveiled only at the upcoming Tokyo Motor show. so expected time to arrive in our shores is probably Late 2008 or early 2009. That the earliest. The current jazz came out in the Phil in the middle to last quarter of 2004 but came out in japan in 2002. The new jazz might not immediately come out here probably a 1-2 year wait for the new model especially if the new Jazz will sell like hotcakes in other parts of the world and manufacturing production can't keep up with demand.

So you can get the jazz without worrying about a new model coming out. Plus Honda resale value is solid and very good and expect to sell the Jazz at a better value than if you got a Sentra.

Just bought a Sentra. Best looking of the lot & I sure don't have problems with the one I just bought. I am happy with it and am using it for relaxed drives. The Hyundai Getz CRDi is a better choice if you are looking for economy, quality, and performance. Forget about resale value... a car is not an investment... when buying one, you should think of economy of operation, fit and finish, as well as the sheer joy of driving it. I'd just buy a Honda Jazz or City for my sister... its such an eyesore, I couldn't care less if she dents it a thousand times or drives it like a bump car as long as she doesn't hurt anyone else.

Ok... thanks a ton guys!! now I know the local situation here more or less.. I guess. And so I heard resale value of popular compacts such as the Sentra, Lancer, and Mazda 3 are not as good compared to Corolla and Civics here because of reasons like more expensive parts daw.. Hmmm.. Ibang iba nga situation here as compared to the west. The B15 Sentra and Fseries Civic are the compact favorite in the states esp. among tuners in the states.

Sorry guys for the out of topic post, ignorant balikbayan kasi. Thanks for the enlightenment! Among the choices I like the Jazz for it's looks and reliability and the Sentra coz it's compact. D ko nga lang maisip how your big local sentra moves with it's 1.3L engine?!

[basti08]

folks, let's face it. to some buyer having the most powerful engine, flattest handling or the one with the most feature arent always the most important factor in booking a deal. basta ok ang operation ng kotse, could haul them from point A to B without fuss, cheap maintenance, those kinda stuffs etc sometimes matters the most.
to all that bought a bnew 2007 Nissan Sentra GX, a lot of those people, can you say that they made a wrong purchase? to each his own lang yan... kung san at ano mas trip mo, yun bilhin mo.

[McLeor]

I am facing the same dilemma , I am not sure what to buy with my budget. I trimmed down my choice between Honda City 1.3L CVT , and All New Vios 1.5L G A/T. The price between the two is about 100K.

Pero, looks like VIOS is a better choice after going to Honda and Toyata (alabang). Pero grabe naman ang Insurance sa Toyota, cost P45,905....

1. Can I get my own insurance (not from the dealership)?
2. Any suggestion which one and a possible quote?
3. Is it OK to get my own insurance? Will there be any hassle in the release of my car or in the future?

Even the in-house financing has higher rate sa dealer, OK lang ba if I would take care of the BPI leasing myself? Any hassles?


Thanks

[niky]

It should be okay.

It's often faster to make a claim if it's in-house, but at that price... what the heck... it's more expensive than what we paid for the XUVi (and that's a 1m car!)

[honismitoy]

As for me, ill go for either Jazz or Sentra

Jazz looks cute and economical.

Sentra for ride and safety.

Just to let you know, Toyota, Honda and Nissan are safe bet.

[bogart_seph]

vios is the best choice for me!

[jing]

hei guys, thanks sa lahat ng replies.
i chose the honda city 1.5 M/T, medyo nagover sa budget, but im cool with in

McLeor - try to huggle with your SA re the insurance. from my recent experience, the first quote was very high. after ilan tawaran, i get a considerable discount sa insurance.

Also, check mo din options mo sa ibang dealers. When i was checking on Toyota Vios, i went to two dealers and compared their quotes. Try mo sa Toyota Pasong Tamo, i can give you the name of the SA who assisted me there. Maayos kausap at maasikaso. Kaya medyo nahiya ko nun sabihin ko, i opted for a honda instead.

And yes, un rate nun in-house financing mataas, pero after ilan tawaran, bumaba din naman un rate. Mas mababa nga pala ang rate ng mga banko.

Basta un lesson learned ko when shopping for a car, check all your options at wag mahiya tumawad at humingi ng freebies at wag magmadali.

[akikaikai]

How much is the average yearly maintenance cost ng Honda at Toyota for say the first 5 years? I'm really eyeing Honda dahil maganda talaga ang quality, parang mas solid yung body. Kaya lang ang concern ko kasi is the ABS and SRS which isn't available dun sa 1.3 na model. Plus mahal daw yung maintenance cost.. Totoo ba na aabot ng 7k yung checkup and other prev. maintenance work?

For the vios naman meron ABS and SRS (driver's side nga lang) and cheaper i-maintain. Pero my past car kasi was a 96 corolla and well, sakit niya talaga yung kalampag.

So well, I'm comparing the cost of maintaining the car and the overall quality. Hope you can give your input. Thanks in advance!

Oh and btw, it's the same dilemma for me. City ba o Vios...?

[Herbie]

hei guys, thanks sa lahat ng replies.
i chose the honda city 1.5 M/T, medyo nagover sa budget, but im cool with in
...

Hi jing! What dealer did you get you're honda city 1.5 M/T? May nakuha kang discount or freebies? (That model is in our list of choices for early next year's purchase, crossing fingers). Thanks much!

Hi Guys! Why is it seem that in the Philippines, no one's posting the fuel consumption of the new Vios (and yes, i have looked around )? And the only review I've read is of Top Gear's article. Mahirap na ba makakuha nito for review at least the mainstream motoring media?