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  1. #1
    ahh..lets pit them against each other:

    astra and optra.

    both powered by almost the same engine,
    both handled by almost crappy dealership,
    both subject to lemon,
    both have sa resale value that rivals any nissan cars
    both can be great cars and a pain in the ass
    both cars are under-rated.

    and both are almost not worthy to have this threaded discussion.

    if these are your only choices, which is it?

    astra(sedan/wagon-all line-up and locally released editions)

    vs.

    optra(sedan/wagon-->all line-up and locally released ed)


    let the thread poster decide amongst these two....

    ps: just leave the year model difference, ok?concentrate sa ride, handling, parts, maintence, and the ups&downs of the two only. data basis please. no flaming and minimize the OT.

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    #2
    Astra with Irmscher bodykits. hands down!!!

    wagon or sedan... add to that the locally unavailable coupe and convertible.

    and of course, im even talking about the 98-04 Astra not even the current one.

    the Astra has always been the Ford Focus' nemesis and its a real German engineered. too bad, units here are poorly speced, overpriced, under rated and distributed by crappy dealerships.

  3. #3
    locally, 98-04 talaga. optra 03 to present...

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    #4
    Astras are relatively dependable, as far as Opels go, but I'd go for the newer car... Optra Wagon FTW!

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayz_yummy View Post
    both handled by almost crappy dealership,
    depends on what dealership...

    Quote Originally Posted by alwayz_yummy View Post
    both subject to lemon
    No major problem yet as severe as the previous gen Civic's falling gas tank.

    Quote Originally Posted by alwayz_yummy View Post
    both can be great cars and a pain in the ass
    Not really, there are satisfied Optra owners, and suprisingly there are many new Optras running around(facelifted model).

    Quote Originally Posted by alwayz_yummy View Post
    both cars are under-rated.
    True, but not as much as before, since there are already a lot of them on the road, its already been accepted as an alternative to the subcompact sedans. Optra is a compact sedan.
    The base Optra 1.6 L starts at P681K
    The more expensive 1.6 LS model comes standard with the ff:
    - Driver's Airbag
    - ABS
    - 4-wheel disc brakes
    - Five 3-point seatbelts
    - 60:40 split folding rear seats with height adjustable headrests
    - Fog lamps
    - 5 in-dash CD changer
    Prices start at P746K.

    Quote Originally Posted by alwayz_yummy View Post
    concentrate sa ride, handling
    One odd thing... the more affordable Optra has independent rear suspension while the more expensive Astra uses a Torsion beam suspension similar to the Vios, City/Jazz and Altis.

    Quote Originally Posted by basti08
    Astra with Irmscher bodykits. hands down!!!
    That reminds me, the Optra LS can now be ordered with an "SS" bodykit(with rear spoiler) and 16 inch alloy wheels. Its an additional 47K over the standard LS.
    Last edited by AG4; November 3rd, 2006 at 06:52 PM.

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    #6
    The Astra has it's charms. It's not incredibly fast but it feels very solid.

    But I guess I'd take the Optra wagon. It has the same safety features of the Astra (including front and rear foglamps), it has a roomier cabin and cargo bay. Plus the glove box is refrigerated. hehehe.

    Thunder Automotive also carries Optra parts.

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  7. #7
    speed is of no issue here. its more on ownership.saan yang thunder automotive sir otep?

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    Ang Thunder na malapit sa atin ay along Quezon Avenue. Katabi ng Kia (near corner Araneta Ave.)

    Meron din ata nito sa Binondo.

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  9. #9
    ok malapit lang pala...

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    #10
    Optra Wagon, I actually like this car hehe.

    Astra wagon is OK too, but a bit heavy and clunky... Medyo trying hard to reach traditional German quality kasi hehe.

    I see Opel as the Kia of Germany :D

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