Toyota versus Nissan (which is which?)

[ILuvDetailing]

nasabi na lahat ni theveed...

most important factor is the condition of the car, if possible get a 2nd hand car with the lowest milleage that will fit your budget, having a car is not really a necessity but having one gives you more options.

[ssaloon]

great discussion.

btw, what's with the bold script?

[strydent]

o sorry mr moderator, dito lang ako nag try mag forum eh..excited n akong magkatsikot pero pero natatakot ang bankbook ko..ehehhe..i like having a car that is durable yet economical.. so guys san kayo if you were me based on my topic earlier...1.3 Toyota XL or 1.6 Nissan Series III?? Thankks guys

[strydent]

nasabi na lahat ni theveed...

most important factor is the condition of the car, if possible get a 2nd hand car with the lowest milleage that will fit your budget, having a car is not really a necessity but having one gives you more options.

Yup, tama ka..by the way believable ba ang 1994 model na corolla with just 80K KM?? I confronted the owner,sabi nya 3 daw kasi ang sasakyan ng first owner and he just owns it for roughly 3 months...

Ung 1996 NIssan series III, 120 thou K na..what ya think guys.

[BoEinG_747]

mahirap din mag base sa mileage kasi pwede naman dayain iyan .mahalaga talaga ang kundisyon ng saksakyan
mas mabuti cguro test drive mo mabuti idaan mo sa mga lubak at hatawin mo ng speed sa arangkada .engine kung may mga oil leak ,pag naka kita ka ng mga diperensia nia ..
isama mo sa discount sabhin mo madami ka pa pala dapat ipaparepair

[falken]

Ultimately, it's still up to you, kasi di namin nakikita personally ang mga cars na binabanggit mo, like yung mileage ng Corolla, puwedeng totoo, puwedeng hindi, when I sold my 96 Vtec last year 60,000+ kms. lang ang odometer, alam ko kasi ako may gamit noon, but yung iba naman ginagalaw ang odometer. The best thing that you can do is test drive the cars thoroughly. Drive it through roads that are not that well maintained and keep a lookout for kalampag, steering problems and suspension problems. On roads with little traffic, check the acceleration of the vehicle. Drive through heavy traffic, see if the car will overheat, and also check the aircon's cooling power. Bring the cars to a gas station and pay them to have the car lifted, so you can check the underside of the car. It's best if you could bring along a trusted mechanic so that he can have a look at your choices and give you his opinion. Good Luck!

[strydent]

Honestly guys, im not even licensed driver, i only have driverse license,not yet graduate from a driving institution..i brought with me a mechanic and ill tell him what you guys have told me..
Siguro nga i go for a corolla meantime, although nanghihinayang talaga ako sa series III n un dahil fresh na fresh pa..
Kainis lang sa XL hindi power steering, ako na lang siguro pa power steeing:d

[squala]

Why don't you look for other Corollas then? Don't settle with just a handful of choices. I also almost bought a 2nd hand Corolla other than my own, and with patience, I got a model better than that one, at the same price.

The XE should get the job done for you because it has power steering. Look around for sound models; there should be a lot of them.

As for Nissans, they normally cost more to maintain and repair due to more expensive parts. Prices of 2nd hand models are very tempting, but you will end up spending just about the same by the time something goes wrong. Toyotas are the cheapest to maintain. There are lots of parts available, and are not very expensive.

[strydent]

Probably yeah..pero i like the set-up of that corolla eh and beside we had a deal na 80 percent down muna then 20 percent to follow n lang para hinidi ko na ipasok sa financing..kaso i need to i need to shell all my money out to avoid it.

Saka maganda pa ang tikas ng XL an un e, im just hoping hindi totoo ung estimate nung isang nagpost na 15K ang power steering..kasi napakamahl nun for me.

[strydent]

I still have to look and look and look though, although kasi ung XL na binibili ko, payag syang mag post muna ako ng 100K then ung 32K to follow in 2 months...tell me if somebody can beat the price..its a 1994 XL pala..

[iqaruzz]

toyota parin ako..

kahit na nissan ang kotse ko ngayon.
economical at reliable ang toyota

[Pro Staff]

oo bro ok din point ni theeved regarding resale value. since single ka pa, definitely kapag nagkafamily ka e gugustuhin mo rin bumili ng mas malaking oto. safe choice is corolla lalo na kung balak mo sya ibenta ulit, alagaan mo lang at madidispose mo yan ng maganda.

[ssaloon]

stick with a toyota. a wise choice for 1st time car buyers.

[orly_andico]

everything's been said!

you better stick with the corolla, as everyone else has said. with a used car, lalo na a 12-year old used car (or even a 10-year old) siguradong maraming lalabas na gremlins diyan which will need to be repaired. masasabon ka talaga sa repair costs lalo na dun sa nissan. "all power features" equals "lots of stuff that can break."

example, nasira yung driver-side power window switch mo (yung merong 4 na switch). eh $#%$#! alam mo ba 6000+ yun? so pag nasira yun, magtitiis ka na lng ba na di mo mababa windows mo? you get the point..

in general you should budget 15000/year for maintenance. tataas pa yun in case something expensive needs replacement. at that mileage, at that age, parang sigurado nang kailangan mo palitan timing belt, timing belt tensioner/idler bearings, water pump, and probably the clutch (unless napalitan na..) all those together will cost you 10000 at least. pero pag napalitan na, good for 5 years na yun.

[reuelc]

both brands of the car is nice. the difference will just be condition of the car which will be based on the previous user(s). suggestion ko lang sayo you think carefully what car you really want. be specific of what features and brand you want then from there focus ka nalang dun sa car na yun. In addition, wag ka masisilaw sa mga physicaly good looking cars always carefully check the condition of the car.

I assume that you can stretch your budget to 250k since na sabi mo na consider mo din sentra fe for that price. AFAIK, 250 is too much for a sentra FE. Dami dyan good deal wag ka magmadali. And IMO, at your limited moneys worth its better to consider brands like Nissan (Sentra) and Ford(Lynx) since they have a lower resale value compared to other brands like toyota and honda.

Kung mag nissan ka I suggest you look for the ex saloon series 4 na 1999 pataas. Mas maganda yun compared to the carb fe since efi na engine and all power pa... those are the things you should consider. Well im previously in hunt for a good 2nd hand car also and from what I observed yung 250 mo could go as far as a 2000 model nissan exalta sla and 2000 model ford lynx ghia. Search all the classifieds in bulletin, buy and sell, and carfinder. Surely you will find a good deal there. Good luck in you carhunting!

[theveed]

Dun sa question mo kung believable ang mileage, you can search through the old threads regarding purchasing 2nd hand advice etc, may mga tips din kung pano makita kung "at par" yung mileage sa actual wear and tear ng oto.

Basically you can tell how much the car is used by checking the driver's side ng interior, how much of the gas/clutch/brake pedal rubber has been worn off, how "kalbo" are the grains sa steering wheel and shifter etc...

Yung 94 ko up to now nasa 84K palang natakbo... Since I got it last May, mga less than 5000km palang nagamit ko dito... Got it at 79K odo... So possible (since I shared my commuting story above, diba logical naman na low mileage)... Kung madaming oto talaga yung may ari dati, then possible din.

As much as possible, get an EFI, in your case, the lowest displacement na EFI would fit your needs and wants... But you can't beat a Corolla kung wala ka talagang alam sa kotse hehe.

Basta don't rush... After you pay, yun na yun, wala nang sisihan if you got a lemon or a gem.

[orly_andico]

i don't think you should stretch to 250k. kasi you said 100k yung cash on hand mo tapos you can loan 100k. so an additional 50k on top is scary. you have to budget at least 25k for maintenance and immediate repairs! eh sa 250k lunod ka na, wala ka nang pang-ayos, if something gets busted magagarahe lang yan ng matagal.

ang alam ko nasa 200k ang sentra FE. carb yun. not a bad choice kasi madaling maayos. EFI cars may be more efficient but they have expensive sensors that can break and do break. yun nga lang, power steering lang yung FE, no power doors, windows, or mirrors. unless na-enhance na yan. but then again, not having all those power features means less things that can break.

[orly_andico]

regarding mileage: a believable figure is like 6000km/year (for someone with 2 or more cars) to at most siguro 12000km/year. more than that, pinang-taxi or service vehicle na yun. so a '93 corolla (13 years old) should have at most siguro 100,000km on it. pero stay away from that. mataas na yun. at 80,000km siguradong palit ka na ng timing belt, water pump, clutch, and probably suspension.

[vinj]

For me i usually peg average mileage at 10,000kms to 15,000kms a year.

[Autobeat]

I still have to look and look and look though, although kasi ung XL na binibili ko, payag syang mag post muna ako ng 100K then ung 32K to follow in 2 months...tell me if somebody can beat the price..its a 1994 XL pala..

If you have a chance to look around for other XLs, price range may be at that level as well (wala lang siguro yung 2months to pay). Suggest you stretch for the XE, to around 145k, possibly just 140k to get at least power steering. A lil plus na rin are the mags that come with the XE.