Toyota versus Nissan (which is which?)

[aceshark]

2. 1996 1.6L Nissan Sentra SS Series 3 (matic, all power) lady driven

nabasa ko lang. do not really rely on the info "LADY DRIVEN". pano kung kaskasero din siya. tama yung mga naunang post. wala sa badge at model ng kotse yan. basta i-consider mo lang yung present condition ng kotse. kung hindi pa laspag e good buy yan. i-consider mo rin yung mga possible na papalitan in the future. basta kung sariwa pa yung kotse, go ka na. goodluck!

[squala]

Tama, purki't lady driven doesn't mean tonado yung kotse. Kung super bagal siya magdrive, malamang kargado na ng karbon yang oto. Some women also don't care about humps - yung iba dinidiretso lang. Yung iba naman sobrang lunod ang clutch dahil hirap magtimpla.

Basta when looking for a used car, just examine the condition carefully.

As for the buyer, I suggest mag-ipon ka pa para makakuha ng XE. Wag mong pilitin ang sarili mo don sa XL kahit maganda man setup nito at ok ang deal ng seller. Baka pagsisihan mo. Importante talaga power steering lalo na't bagong tuto ka at may long drive once a week.

[city]

with 10K net per month..i'd go for a 1.6L matic. Ease of drive, power and all that crap. nakakainis pag di ka makaabot sa ibang car. sa 1.3L pag may pasahero ka la na, hirap na.

[strydent]

Thanks guys, actually just yesterday i went to paranaque to check on one car, its 1996 1.6L Nissan Sentra Super Touring...by just looking at the aesthetics ng car, id say na maganda pa siya..its odometer reads at 77 thou Km, very clean interiors, with cd on board and of course with all the power amenities on board..and also its manual and base dun sa nabasa kong thread m/t differs by at least 1-3 Km/L if u compared it with a a/t (1.6L also)..its also direct owned meaning they have lessre chance of tampering its odometers..tomorrow id bring the mechanic to look for any defects.

The other day, i went to my neighbor to see personally ung binebentang 2000 1.3 Nissan Sentra FE, and also base sa nabasa kong thread its beyond the normal range ng ganung car class but with a 5 or i think 6 spoke mags, alarms, cd player on board, momo steering wheels, 105thou km mileage and first owned, is it a good buy or not?
Thanks. Dami ko nang natutuhan sa tsikot.com,hanep!

[strydent]

Alam nyo guys i really want a corolla but with my money now, ang pwede ko lang i afford e sentra which (according sa threads is a good car but with a bad history) kaya parang trip ko ang sentra, wag lang sana akong itirik sa antipolo..(comments too)

[badkuk]

hmmm, i think you should also consider if it's easy to find replacement parts for the car you're buying.

[strydent]

well, if i believe in whatever tsikot.com forum is saying, there's one hell of replacement parts thats can be found everywhere though not as easy as toyota owners are claiming.

Before i used to believe that myths about nissan are true but since i joined in as a tsikoteer myself (though i still have to buy my own car), everything has changed..and now im looking forward in owning a nissan santra.

[orly_andico]

1) that sentra FE year 2000 with 105,000km? FLEET CAR.

mahilig ang mga pharma companies sa sentra FE. that much mileage on a 5-6 year old car is par for the course. on the bright side, religious mag-maintain (usually) ang fleet owners. pero siguradong laspag na suspension niyan.

2) the 1996 Super Touring? well.. maraming electrical borloloy yan. Masarap gamitin, pero as niky has said many times, masakitin sa electricals ang nissan.

i'd go for #2 kasi ang taas taas nung mileage nung unang car eh. pero baka mayari ka sa electricals. at least Sentra siya (hindi Altima or Cefiro) so mas mura yung parts...

[orly_andico]

another thing...

i find it totally amusing that pinoys use the phrase "lady-driven" as if it's a compliment. as if the car is better off for being lady-driven.

but that's totally not so!!! most ladies are not mechanically inclined at all. they don't know how to maintain the car, and they don't know kung meron nang sira or wala. i've heard quite a few stories of ladies driving their cars for 5 years and NEVER CHANGING THE OIL.

kung sa akin lang, pag sinabi sa akin "lady-driven," i'll run as fast as possible in the opposite direction.

[strydent]

aesthethically, fresh na fresh ang super touring n nakita..as in malinis except for few dimples which i think is normal..given the low mileage pati ng super touring ang nakapag pa impress sa akin saka yung may ari ng car,eheheh..

Ano bang electrical borloloys na makikita sa super touring na wala sa super saloon??

[orly_andico]

actually pareho lang super touring sa super saloon. the super touring just has an air dam and body kit.

i was comparing it to the sentra FE which is power nothing.

[strydent]

sorry for my ignorance (its my first car kasi with no prior experience sa maintenance), but what is an air dam and body kit? Meron bang abs and/or air bags ang super touring?? thanks

[orly_andico]

air dam and body kit -- mga borloloy yan on the outside. basically pieces of plastic molding hanging off the body to make it look more sporty.

the super touring is basically a cosmetically spiffed-up (with body kit, air dam, and big spoiler on the trunk) version of the super saloon. but mechanically and electrically they are identical. so yes you do get an airbag and ABS.

note: pag nag deploy ang airbag, sobrang gastos itong palitan. pati yung ABS, merong separate ABS computer from the main engine computer, pag namatay yun... madugong repair na naman.

pero mahal nga yung sentra FE na 250k. kung 180k yun oks na oks bilhin. pero 250k is way too much.

[strydent]

Talagang mahal ang FE, tapos ayaw pang magtawad nung may-ari kahit "one centavo" lower ayaw daw nya..Kaya ayoko, pero maganda n sana eh,alaga naman siguro ung car mayaman kasi may ari..

By the way, ung super touring 1996 model, so this one, u supposed do have abs and air brakes?

While we think na ung FE is way below its normal price..how about yung super touring, ok lang ba ung benta sa akin na 168 thou pesos assuming na totoo ang mileage nya as compared to super saloon A/t na inaalok sa akin at 155 thousand after tawad.. both are fresh i should say though ung super saloon is already 120thou km odometer while super touring is only 77Thou km odo..thanks

[OTEP]

AFAIK, ABS/SRS (airbag) ang Super Touring. B14 ang chassis code ng model na iyan. Nagkaron na kami ng B14 (2001 model) which is only cosmetically different (though walang ABS yung sa amin). Hindi kami binigyan ng problema. Uncle ko na ang may ari ngayon. Solid pa din.

[orly_andico]

168k for 77,000 km?
hmmmm... parang mababa. pero pwede na rin siguro.

i'm willing to bet merong hidden na mga sira yan. but then wala namang 10-year old car na walang hidden sira eh! nagtitiis ako dito sa 1993 car ko (first-time buyer din ako 3 years ago kaya marami akong nalustay na pera sa repairs).

hanap ka nalang kaya ng mazda 323 1.3L na GLX? carb engine yun, mas konti ang pwedeng masira kasi hindi siya loaded...

i have to tell you, 3 years ago i was where you are now. nasilawan ako sa mga borloloy nung mazda 626. sarap kasi nung remote power mirrors eh hahaha. pero ngayon ang mahal mahal i-maintain. sobrang mahal nung parts and maraming pwedeng masira.

if it's your first car, lalo na if you're on a budget and wala ka pang alam about maintenance (it will end up being far more expensive to maintain than you ever dreamed of..) best is to stick with a simple car. one which has as minimal electrical stuff as possible. that means, hindi power windows, hindi power mirrors, pero dapat may power steering na.

so that would be a 1993-94 corolla XE, or a sentra FE, or a mazda 323 1.3L.

[strydent]

Exactly, meron sana akong gusto na toyota corolla 1994 XL but powerless as in power less..set-up na xa, mugs and everything is on board..kaso hinid power steering..un ang ayaw ng mga friends ko..

Then i scan through the pages of tsikot.com and after many posts and replies and seeing through threads, i found out that sentras are the best bang for my hard earned money withouth compromising the comfort, durability of the car..

Well, it al depends on the mechanic siguro..

Id have to ask for the hidden defects of the car though..thanks sir..

oh by the way u mean mura ang presyo sa akin ng super touring? It was originally priced at 175K tinatawaran ko nga ng 160K ayaw talagang ibigay..ganda pa naman nung may -ari..eheheh

[orly_andico]

nakupo!
baka wala pang oil change yan! baka nag-overheat na yan at kailangan ng top overhaul! :P

best of look. pero if i were you tingin ka na rin sa mga 1996-97 mazda 323 1.3 GLX (yung round body). mga ganun na din yung presyo, baka mas mababa pa. pareho lang ang cost of maintaining a mazda or a nissan (marami akong friends with B14 nissans). yung 626 ubod ng mahal ng parts, pero yung 323 ok lang.

[strydent]

Exactly, meron sana akong gusto na toyota corolla 1994 XL but powerless as in power less..set-up na xa, mugs and everything is on board..kaso hinid power steering..un ang ayaw ng mga friends ko..

Then i scan through the pages of tsikot.com and after many posts and replies and seeing through threads, i found out that sentras are the best bang for my hard earned money withouth compromising the comfort, durability of the car..

Well, it al depends on the mechanic siguro..

Id have to ask for the hidden defects of the car though..thanks sir..

oh by the way u mean mura ang presyo sa akin ng super touring? It was originally priced at 175K tinatawaran ko nga ng 160K ayaw talagang ibigay..ganda pa naman nung may -ari..eheheh

[orly_andico]

double post po... paki edit nalang.

as i said, you might want to check out the mazda 323 as well. yung round body (familia) na 1996-97 goes from 150k to 190k. all power na din yun, pero walang ABS or airbag (unless GLXI model).

it looks decent naman (to me) but then i'm biased. very active din ang local community.
http://www.protegetech.org/

pero yung GLX nga na 1.3L dapat hanapin mo. power steering lang para mas kaunti pwedeng masira. although in all honesty wala pang nasira dito sa 626 ko na electrical. pero na rewire ko na (DIY) yung fuel pump, hahaha.

sa mga old cars na yan, ang often masira are radiator (overheat!) brakes, suspension.