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July 8th, 2009 06:32 PM #1yaris vs jazz vs swift...
i prefer yung parang sa mga european cars na mabigat ang manibela...
which of the three ang ganun?
i know its better to test drive pero baka im lookin at wrong segment baka dapat sedan like
impreza or focus lng dapat ang pinagpipilian ko
pls enlighten me
thanks and more power...
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July 8th, 2009 06:44 PM #2Im a previous owner of a yaris, definitely take it out of the list if you want a heavy steering wheel. Super gaan nya, pwede daliri lang gamitin mo hehe.
I also dont like the handling of the yaris. Too much body roll when turning. Ang tag tag pa.
The jazz drives better
If you have the budget, get the impreza, it handles great, you'll also have tons of features inside that can be only seen in cars sold in the US ( 6 airbags, 8 speakers, etc)
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July 8th, 2009 07:12 PM #4
Bakit di ninyo i-test drive sir so that you will have your own feel on the steering wheel.
In the sub-compact segment, it is all designed to feel light and comfortable unless you mod it a little bit to improve the handling and lessen the body roll.
We all have subjective experiences on the car so it is better to test drive and do your own research before deciding on what vehicle you will buy.
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July 8th, 2009 08:11 PM #5For 2.0 Impreza, 2 airbags lng sya. Although, handling is good. Great suspension too for our Manila roads. You won't notice you're going 140kph already.
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July 9th, 2009 12:22 PM #6
If we're going up to compact cars, most of the new ones have great handling.
The Impreza is an impressive handler, mind you, but the Civic, though the rear end is annoyingly numb, turns quicker and the Focus has a keener sense of balance (and much much better steering). The Lancer feels about as good as the Impreza (they're both equally heavy) and has more grip.
And would you believe that the Mazda3 2.0R can still outslalom most of these snotty newcomers? That includes the Subie. AWD might be a great weapon for a 300 hp turbocharged hatchback, but amongst 150hp compacts, its benefits are quite minimal. The Subaru only feels significantly better off-road, on dirt, where the extra traction gives you the ability to perform four-wheel powerslides...
But if we're talking balls-to-the-walls tail-wagging backroads fun, it's the Swift. Full-stop. It has the most neutral demeanor amongst sub-compacts, has decent rubber and, surprisingly for a subcompact, it has adequate steering. Still light... still a bit numb, but not as numbnuts as the Jazz or the loosely-geared Yaris steering wheels. The only thing nearly as fun as the Swift was the old Jazz, which you could get sideways with a Scandinavian flick and a bit of trail-braking, but the new Jazz is more like the Civic, the rear is too firmly planted.
Errh... not that I'm saying these things will spin out if you drive hard, but if you know how to provoke them, they're very willing to play. But with normal... "safe" driving... the Swift is still the best of the lot... followed closely by the new Jazz... either will do, depending on what you want... but if what you want is firm steering, the only thing you can do is unplug the electric steering motor...Last edited by niky; July 9th, 2009 at 12:26 PM.
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July 9th, 2009 03:27 PM #7
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July 10th, 2009 11:30 PM #8
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July 11th, 2009 04:37 PM #9
Most of the new systems are light... even some sportscars have pretty light steering.
Used to be, Mazdas and Fords had the heaviest, meatiest steering. The new Mazda3 and Focus now have lighter steering because customers were complaining, but they're still a bit heavier than the competition.
Numb is different... numb means you can't feel the road through the steering wheel, and you can't feel what's happening as you turn it. Most electric systems are pretty numb. The Impreza's steering is a bit better than the Jazz, but still slightly light and floaty feeling compared to the Focus. The Civic has quite meaty steering for an electric assist steering system and it's very sharp. Not quite as good as the Focus, but worth considering, since the Civic has a great engine and more space in the back seat.
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The most perfect steering I've felt for non-exotic/luxury/expensive cars in the past ten years would have to be in BMWs, the previous Miata and the Ford Lynx RS. The RS still feels nice and fresh, some five years on, every time I get back in it after driving a newer car.
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