Suzuki MT City Car: S-Presso vs. Celerio

[Rao Shaheryar]

Celerio is better than S-Presso I think celerio ground clearance is better than S-Presso
my vote is for Celerio

[Dr.Kamiya]

Saw one yesterday. Looks good! I totally forgot to take a picture of the 488 Pista and new Defender in the same parking coz I was thinking of this S-Presso thread

[dr. d]

Saw one yesterday. Looks good! I totally forgot to take a picture of the 488 Pista and new Defender in the same parking coz I was thinking of this S-Presso thread

i have a wigo, as well as an innova.
i can easily imagine the spresso's parking privileges...
... magaan ba manibela niya...?

but given the spresso's asking price,
i can easily make a list of pre-owned vehicles that will give it a run for its money.

[WallyWest]

Someone here said the S-presso is an Alto on stilts. I drove behind one last weekend and, yes (from the rear at least), it does look like a small, narrow car with disproportionately tall tires. I was expecting na medyo small SUV ang dating, but no.

[dr. d]

Someone here said the S-presso is an Alto on stilts. I drove behind one last weekend and, yes (from the rear at least), it does look like a small, narrow car with disproportionately tall tires. I was expecting na medyo small SUV ang dating, but no.

one h as to see it at a certain angle..
the orange model seen at 30 degrees from the front, seems to be its more flattering angle.
i wonder, does it topple over on extreme driving (e.g., fail the moose test) ?

[Dr.Kamiya]

Tire size difference isn't that big.

S-Presso 175/70 R14

Celerio/Wigo/Mirage etc. 175/65 R14

The difference is something like 3% or 7/10th of an inch (17mm) taller tires.

Can probably swap tires with similar small cars and very few people would even notice -- kinda like how '90s sedan owners would change out 195/55R15 for 195/50R15 and the car looks mostly the same unless you're really looking for it.

Celerio is better than S-Presso I think celerio ground clearance is better than S-Presso
my vote is for Celerio

Celerio ground clearance 165mm

S-Presso ground clearance 180mm

8-9mm comes from taller tires, the other 6mm from raised suspension.

[dr. d]

Tire size difference isn't that big.

S-Presso 175/70 R14

Celerio/Wigo/Mirage etc. 175/65 R14

The difference is something like 3% or 7/10th of an inch (17mm) taller tires.

Can probably swap tires with similar small cars and very few people would even notice -- kinda like how '90s sedan owners would change out 195/55R15 for 195/50R15 and the car looks mostly the same unless you're really looking for it.

tinatamad nakong mag research.
how's the ground clearance figures difference between the alto and celerio, and the spresso?

[LOLZ]

tinatamad nakong mag research.
how's the ground clearance figures difference between the alto and celerio, and the spresso?

the indian spec alto(similar to the previous ph k10) is said to have 160mm while the pakistan spec with the 660cc seems to have 170mm of groundclearance.

celerio 145mm
mirage 160mm
wigo 180mm apparently
brio 137mm
picanto 151mm
almera 150mm

[dr. d]

if the spresso has a ground clearance of 180 mm, and the celerio has 145,
the difference of 35 mm is 1.4 inches.

for practical everyday use,
would 1.4 inches be much of a decision-changer...?

[Dr.Kamiya]

I don't think ride height is a game changer, but they are basically the same car and come in at nearly the same price. (I believe S-Presso M/T is actually cheaper than the Celerio M/T).

At the end it all comes down to buyer preference, and so far our market seems to be favoring taller SUV-ish vehicles.

[LOLZ]

if the spresso has a ground clearance of 180 mm, and the celerio has 145,
the difference of 35 mm is 1.4 inches.

for practical everyday use,
would 1.4 inches be much of a decision-changer...?

Depending on how soft the suspension is on both probably either mas matagtag ung celerio or mas less prone sumabit si spresso.

180mm seems a bit too much though for a city hatchback.The Revo makes due with 175mm(granted likely sa rear diff kinuha ung measurement na yon) and has to carry 10.

[Dr.Kamiya]

180mm on a monocoque shouldn't be too much of a climb to get inside the cabin.

The Revo naman kasi that 175mm is only to the lowest hanging part (which as you said is likely to be the rear diff cover), after that naka patong pa the frame, and then the body itself so medyo mataas talaga aakyatin mo to get into the car.

[Dr.Kamiya]

Ground clearance of CUVs, for example:

[Egan101]

Ground clearance of CUVs, for example:

Yung ground clearance ng Forester at Outback is at 8.7 inches (221mm). Di naman mahirap umakyat or bumaba. This is around the same clearance as most PPVs.


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[LOLZ]

180mm on a monocoque shouldn't be too much of a climb to get inside the cabin.

The Revo naman kasi that 175mm is only to the lowest hanging part (which as you said is likely to be the rear diff cover), after that naka patong pa the frame, and then the body itself so medyo mataas talaga aakyatin mo to get into the car.

just remembered hitching a ride in a 1.2 suzuki swift and ingress was ok with its 170mm ground clearance another 10mm wont matter.

[bxr monkey]

Yung ground clearance ng Forester at Outback is at 8.7 inches (221mm). Di naman mahirap umakyat or bumaba. This is around the same clearance as most PPVs.

Iyong PPV yata although same ang clearance sa crossover, malayo ang height ng floor pan at seat bottom mula sa road.

Iyon ang maganda sa unibody design, efficient sa packaging.

[bxr monkey]

just remembered hitching a ride in a 1.2 suzuki swift and ingress was ok with its 170mm ground clearance another 10mm wont matter.

Iyong Lovelife Corolla namin dati naka Asian road package (PH/ASEAN 180mm vs. 150/160mm global). Kayang kayang ang mga super humps, tapos hindi sumasayad ang overhang sa steep parking ramps kahit na extended bumper.

Pero mababa pa din medyo seat bottom, kaya payuko pa din ingress/egress.

[dr. d]

ground clearance + floor height + seat height + seat support + roof clearance + handhold aids = ease of ingress and egress.

[bxr monkey]

ground clearance + floor height + seat height + seat support + roof clearance + handhold aids = ease of ingress and egress.

Kaya okay ang mga CUVs at MPVs sa elders.

Itong Suzuki HBs pasok din.

[dr. d]

Kaya okay ang mga CUVs at MPVs sa elders.

Itong Suzuki HBs pasok din.

"my wife has threatened to divorce me, should i ever bring home a fortuner."
she likes the old altis.
u-upo na lang siya.
heh heh.

there goes the restored box pajero na ina-alok sakin...