Rav4 vs Vitara (95 - 98 model)

[arvin.diesel]

Sirs, again just want to have some enlightenment regarding these 2 vehicles. Which has the best in over all performance when it comes to...
- Reliability
- Efficiency
- Less fuel consumption
- Engine power esp in long drives, uphills, etc
- Stability
- Matic or manual

Also, what would you suggest more, the 3 door Rav4 or 5 doors?

Again, all your thoughts and inputs will be very much appreciated. We will take all your advices and recommendations that will certainly helps us to decide. Thank you

[myk384]

Sirs, again just want to have some enlightenment regarding these 2 vehicles. Which has the best in over all performance when it comes to...
- Reliability
- Efficiency
- Less fuel consumption
- Engine power esp in long drives, uphills, etc
- Stability
- Matic or manual

Also, what would you suggest more, the 3 door Rav4 or 5 doors?

Again, all your thoughts and inputs will be very much appreciated. We will take all your advices and recommendations that will certainly helps us to decide. Thank you

Reliability - Both
Efficiency - If the unit is well maintained, I guess
Less fuel consumption - Vitara MT (later models), or RAV4 MT
Engine power esp in long drives, uphills, etc - RAV4 dahil 2.0 engine
Stability - RAV4
Matic or manual - Saan mo ba gagamitin? Kung long drives manual ka na

Kung ikaw ang gagamit most of the time, 3 door RAV4.

I suggest check the CR-V of the same time, and also the Ford Escape, Nissan X-Trail, and the Mitsubishi Outlander.

How much is your given budget ba? And if you want to know more about the Vitara, I'll post my article about it this September 3.

[renzo_d10]

Older Rav4s ba tinitignan mo?

Yun ganito?



Kung yan, Vitara na. Sorry pero ampanget lang talaga ng RAV4 na yan.

Mas may flood fording capability pa yung Vitara. Pero kung etong Rav4



Yan na. ;)

[LiempoBoi]

Older Rav4s ba tinitignan mo?

Yun ganito?



Kung yan, Vitara na. Sorry pero ampanget lang talaga ng RAV4 na yan.

Mas may flood fording capability pa yung Vitara. Pero kung etong Rav4



Yan na. ;)

1st gen yata yung tinutukoy niya kasi may option siya na "3 door". Masa maganda din tingnan para sa akin yung 2nd Gen. na Rav 4 compared sa 1st Gen.

[renzo_d10]

1st gen yata yung tinutukoy niya kasi may option siya na "3 door". Masa maganda din tingnan para sa akin yung 2nd Gen. na Rav 4 compared sa 1st Gen.

Hm, I see.

Hindi naman kasi talaga maganda yung 1st gen RAV4 eh. Kita mo pinatay ng CRV. :lol:

Sya nga pala *arvin.diesel, ayaw mo ng CRV?

[GTi]

Sirs, again just want to have some enlightenment regarding these 2 vehicles. Which has the best in over all performance when it comes to...
- Reliability
- Efficiency
- Less fuel consumption
- Engine power esp in long drives, uphills, etc
- Stability
- Matic or manual

Also, what would you suggest more, the 3 door Rav4 or 5 doors?

Again, all your thoughts and inputs will be very much appreciated. We will take all your advices and recommendations that will certainly helps us to decide. Thank you

For what will you be using the car? The Rav4 is no good off road, while the Vitara is an ancient dinosaur that'll put the Crosswind to shame. The Rav4 would do fine as a city car though, and the Vitara is an excellent off roader with revered mud plugging and water fording skills even in stock form. We used to maintain a 3 door Suzuki Escudo 1.6A/T in Taiwan before and have been testament to its flood fording capability. It was able to ford floods reaching the windowsills of the car no problem and has an FC of 8-9km/L in Taiwan city driving conditions.

I would always suggest the 5 door over the 3 door for practicality reasons, unless you have no more than one additional passenger 99.99% of the time. The 5 door is very short already anyway.

Here's my take on the two:
Reliability: Both, though the Rav4 should have an edge in the parts department.
Efficiency/fuel consumption: Vitara. No matter how you put it, a 1.6L engine will always be more fuel efficient than a 1.8L/2.0L engine, especially in city driving.
Engine power: Rav4. I have driven a 3 door A/T Escudo before, engine was rather asthmatic though the 160km/h maximum speed indicated in the speedometer is definitely achievable.
Stability: Rav4. Unibody platform will always be more stable on road than a body-on-frame.
A/T or M/T: Definitely M/T. Its a lot more responsive and fuel efficient. Old A/T's tend to rob LOTS of power and think with their stomachs (stupid shifting patterns and heavy fuel consumption).

[arvin.diesel]

Matic or manual - Saan mo ba gagamitin? Kung long drives manual ka na

Kung ikaw ang gagamit most of the time, 3 door RAV4.

I suggest check the CR-V of the same time, and also the Ford Escape, Nissan X-Trail, and the Mitsubishi Outlander.

How much is your given budget ba? And if you want to know more about the Vitara, I'll post my article about it this September 3.

*sir myk384, for everyday use lang po...mostly city driving but once in a while ay umaakyat kami ng baguio, I believe vitara can handle the roads esp the uphills in baguio, right? Original budget is around 180k lng po sana for vitara, inextend lang po namin to 250k when we see the rav4.
Sige po sir, please post your article about vitara for better understanding...we'll wait for it. Thanks

Older Rav4s ba tinitignan mo?

Yun ganito?



Kung yan, Vitara na. Sorry pero ampanget lang talaga ng RAV4 na yan.

Mas may flood fording capability pa yung Vitara. Pero kung etong Rav4

*sir renzo, yeah ganito pong klase ng rav4 ang tinitignan namin yung mga 1st gen. Thanks po

[arvin.diesel]

For what will you be using the car? The Rav4 is no good off road, while the Vitara is an ancient dinosaur that'll put the Crosswind to shame. The Rav4 would do fine as a city car though, and the Vitara is an excellent off roader with revered mud plugging and water fording skills even in stock form. We used to maintain a 3 door Suzuki Escudo 1.6A/T in Taiwan before and have been testament to its flood fording capability. It was able to ford floods reaching the windowsills of the car no problem and has an FC of 8-9km/L in Taiwan city driving conditions.

I would always suggest the 5 door over the 3 door for practicality reasons, unless you have no more than one additional passenger 99.99% of the time. The 5 door is very short already anyway.

Here's my take on the two:
Reliability: Both, though the Rav4 should have an edge in the parts department.
Efficiency/fuel consumption: Vitara. No matter how you put it, a 1.6L engine will always be more fuel efficient than a 1.8L/2.0L engine, especially in city driving.
Engine power: Rav4. I have driven a 3 door A/T Escudo before, engine was rather asthmatic though the 160km/h maximum speed indicated in the speedometer is definitely achievable.
Stability: Rav4. Unibody platform will always be more stable on road than a body-on-frame.
A/T or M/T: Definitely M/T. Its a lot more responsive and fuel efficient. Old A/T's tend to rob LOTS of power and think with their stomachs (stupid shifting patterns and heavy fuel consumption).

sir GTi, mostly ay for everyday use lang po and city driving...pero paminsan minsan ay umaakyat kami ng baguio at tagaytay, so Im assuming na kakayanin pa rin ng vitara ang mga uphills esp in baguio kahit pa 5 po ang nakasakay, right?

By the way sir, bakit po ba nasasabing mas malakas sa fuel consumption ang AT over MT?
Im planning to get an AT po sana so my wife can drive it, pero sa mga inputs nyo po and due to drastically (and consistent) oil price hikes Im now having a second thought kung AT pa rin ang kukunin namin, baka mag-manual na lang kami. Thanks po

[arvin.diesel]

So, I think majority of you guys preferred vitara over 1st gen rav4...sabagay, practically speaking ay much cheaper ang vitara. And mas may edge pa sya sa off roads and may flood fording capabilities pa over rav4. Hmmmm, it seems at this early stage were already 80% sure what vehicle should we choose between the two...but were still accepting some inputs sir.

By the way, ang 95 - 98 model ng vitara po ay may mga seatbelts din po sa likod, right?

Thanks a lot sa mga nagbigay ng informations and sa mga magbibigay pa po.

[yebo]

di naman gaano difference ng fc ng a/t sa m/t. 10% difference lang yan at the most. kung ok lang sa misis mo na magdrive ng m/t sure m/t ka na, pero since sa post mo ay a/t lang kaya nya i-drive e di why not a/t. ano ba naman yung 10% more fuel kung makakadrive naman ang misis mo. pagbigyan mo naman siya maka-drive, lakas yata ng up sa self esteem ng isang babae kung nakaka-drive sya. magiging more self confident pa siya, ayaw mo ba nun? also, you'll never know there will be a situation na need siya ang mag-drive dahil di ka pwede, or wala ka.

[arvin.diesel]

di naman gaano difference ng fc ng a/t sa m/t. 10% difference lang yan at the most. kung ok lang sa misis mo na magdrive ng m/t sure m/t ka na, pero since sa post mo ay a/t lang kaya nya i-drive e di why not a/t. ano ba naman yung 10% more fuel kung makakadrive naman ang misis mo. pagbigyan mo naman siya maka-drive, lakas yata ng up sa self esteem ng isang babae kung nakaka-drive sya. magiging more self confident pa siya, ayaw mo ba nun? also, you'll never know there will be a situation na need siya ang mag-drive dahil di ka pwede, or wala ka.

Hehehe, I perfectly got your point sir, actually self esteem is definitely beyond the issue cause my wife can even handle MT, pinag-iisapan lang po namin ang matic to make her more comfortable...anyway, thanks for the tip bout AT's fuel consumption over MT

[GTi]

sir GTi, mostly ay for everyday use lang po and city driving...pero paminsan minsan ay umaakyat kami ng baguio at tagaytay, so Im assuming na kakayanin pa rin ng vitara ang mga uphills esp in baguio kahit pa 5 po ang nakasakay, right?

By the way sir, bakit po ba nasasabing mas malakas sa fuel consumption ang AT over MT?
Im planning to get an AT po sana so my wife can drive it, pero sa mga inputs nyo po and due to drastically (and consistent) oil price hikes Im now having a second thought kung AT pa rin ang kukunin namin, baka mag-manual na lang kami. Thanks po

Kaya naman yan. 1.6L parin kahit papano. Para saan pa ba naman kaya yung off road capabilities kung di kayang humatak? If you still feel short on power, siguro mag engine mods ka nalang.

It is worthy of note though that the 5 door Vitara 1.6A/T is a heavy drinker. May kamag-anak kami meron nun. He's not very into cars so I couldn't ask him the km/L reading pero sabi niya malakas talaga sa gas.

Merong thread about A/T versus M/T dito, marami kang malalaman. Mas OK siguro if you will let your wife adjust to the car instead of the car adjusting to your wife. Its for the best and much more economical in the long run.

[Manilablock]

kung ako pipili sir RAV4 (RAV4 gen2 ang ride ko at personally happy ako)

kahit na ang vitara ay pang flood hindi pa din advisable na ilusong mo.

saka city driving ka din naman mas advisable a/t ung additional na fc ang kapalit comfort.

and sa spare parts isipin mo din lalo na kung hindi brand new ang kukunin mo

[Autobeat]

A little watch-out on the Vitara. These were previous options for our sales mgrs back in the early 2000. Those who got these acquired 2001, 2002, complained of high fuel consumption for a 1.6liter SUV. Similar complaint to those who got the then new 2003s 2.0liter gen2 CRVs. Both were matic though.

[cripple_rooster]

An uncle of mine had a '93 Vitara with the 1.6L engine and manual transmission, but retrofitted a Volkswagen/Audi 1.6L diesel. Considering reliability and cross-country abilities, I'd rather get a Vitara over a RAV-4 everytime. Overall comfort was not bad for the Vitara too.

[shadow3616931]

sir GTi, mostly ay for everyday use lang po and city driving...pero paminsan minsan ay umaakyat kami ng baguio at tagaytay, so Im assuming na kakayanin pa rin ng vitara ang mga uphills esp in baguio kahit pa 5 po ang nakasakay, right?

Kahit yung pinaka matarik na kalsada sa baguio at 5 passengers at punoin mo pa ng gamit kayang-kaya ng Vitara yan, dahil kung sa tingin mo mabibitin ang makina dahil sobra tarik pwede mo i-shift sa 4 low, at gagapang yan.

Nagkaroon ako ng Vits kaya kabisado ko capability nyan re gas consumption mas matipid sya compared sa ibang SUV wag lang Jimny and the likes at sa sedan. Actually naghahanap din ako uli nyan gagawin kong project 4x4 car.

[arvin.diesel]

A little watch-out on the Vitara. These were previous options for our sales mgrs back in the early 2000. Those who got these acquired 2001, 2002, complained of high fuel consumption for a 1.6liter SUV. Similar complaint to those who got the then new 2003s 2.0liter gen2 CRVs. Both were matic though.

Noted sir Autobeat, around 95 to 98 (or 99 if may makita) lang po ang hanap namin na vitara...from what I heard ay hinde gaanong kalakas sa gaso ang ganitong model. Thanks

An uncle of mine had a '93 Vitara with the 1.6L engine and manual transmission, but retrofitted a Volkswagen/Audi 1.6L diesel. Considering reliability and cross-country abilities, I'd rather get a Vitara over a RAV-4 everytime. Overall comfort was not bad for the Vitara too.

Copy that sir cripple_rooster, from the recommendations of our fellow tsikoteers they also preferred vitara over rav4. Thanks

Kahit yung pinaka matarik na kalsada sa baguio at 5 passengers at punoin mo pa ng gamit kayang-kaya ng Vitara yan, dahil kung sa tingin mo mabibitin ang makina dahil sobra tarik pwede mo i-shift sa 4 low, at gagapang yan.

Nagkaroon ako ng Vits kaya kabisado ko capability nyan re gas consumption mas matipid sya compared sa ibang SUV wag lang Jimny and the likes at sa sedan. Actually naghahanap din ako uli nyan gagawin kong project 4x4 car.

Thanks also for the tip sir shadow3616931. Goodluck to your project car

[shadow3616931]

A little watch-out on the Vitara. These were previous options for our sales mgrs back in the early 2000. Those who got these acquired 2001, 2002, complained of high fuel consumption for a 1.6liter SUV. Similar complaint to those who got the then new 2003s 2.0liter gen2 CRVs. Both were matic though.

Baka yung grand vitara V6, malakas talaga yun V6 eh...alam ko wala 1.6 na grand vitara

[arvin.diesel]

Hm, I see.

Hindi naman kasi talaga maganda yung 1st gen RAV4 eh. Kita mo pinatay ng CRV. :lol:

Sya nga pala *arvin.diesel, ayaw mo ng CRV?

Sir renzo, I overlooked your last statement. CRV is not included in our lists but we can consider if we will be educated.
Btw, I opened a new thread, Vitara vs CRV (95 - 98 model)...needs your advices again mga sir. Ty

[cripple_rooster]

I would rather avoid the V6 versions of the Vitara and the Grand Vitara. But, if you're now considering the CR-V, it does worth to take a look at an early diesel Grand Vitara with the Mazda RF 2.0L turbodiesel.