Montero Sport or RAV4 4X2?

[Camgen6]

Is this based on the RP market or the US market? Because AFAIK Mitsu has a larger market share there than they do here in the US. They have a good rep in the RP unlike here in the US where they haven't really had much of the market with the exception of the Evo and the 1st and 2nd gen Eclipse.

Sir redorange, I was just talking about re-sale value based on Sir dengaroo's post.

[Bogeyman]

Something that can handle regular trips to the province, rough roads and floods? Montero Sport, period. It's an honest-to-goodness truck, and its capabilities proclaim it loudly and proudly. It makes no pretenses about being a lesser vehicle.

Who knows, it might satisfy you so much, you may even decide against sellling it again in the near future.

[redorange]

Sir dengaroo, Its not that I am trying to stir you away from the Montero Sport pero prone yata sa rollover yan eh, few months back I just saw one on the freeway. Just google it.

All SUV's are prone to rollover because of the high center of gravity, that's why they have warnings about making sudden turns at high speed. BTW I saw a Mustang 5.0 that rolled over on the freeway a few weeks back and that has a lower center of gravity. Any vehicle when used beyond it's ability and the right circumstances are present will rollover. The key is to know the limitations of the vehicle you are driving. if you have an SUV don't drive it like an EVO through corners because it will rollover.

[baiskee]

montero sport for me. ;)

[baiskee]

Astig! :D

[kimpOy]

astig nga bai...

[Camgen6]

All SUV's are prone to rollover because of the high center of gravity, that's why they have warnings about making sudden turns at high speed. BTW I saw a Mustang 5.0 that rolled over on the freeway a few weeks back and that has a lower center of gravity. Any vehicle when used beyond it's ability and the right circumstances are present will rollover. The key is to know the limitations of the vehicle you are driving. if you have an SUV don't drive it like an EVO through corners because it will rollover.

Sir redorange, point taken, you're right every SUV are prone to rollover but not so much so with some other SUVs. Maybe in the near future when Stability Control becomes standard on all vehicles only then we don't have to worry about rollovers.

[redorange]

Sir redorange, point taken, you're right every SUV are prone to rollover but not so much so with some other SUVs. Maybe in the near future when Stability Control becomes standard on all vehicles only then we don't have to worry about rollovers.

Even with stability control you will still rollover because computers cannot negate the laws of physics. I have an Xterra 4x4 w/ stability control and it will still rollover if I drive it like a sportscar. The vehicle is plastered with warnings that stability control will not always prevent a rollover. BTW my vehicle model was ranked by NHTSA as the vehicle most likely to rollover of all the SUV's sold in the US with a 25% chance of rollover. But I have never found it to be unstable at high speed(100mph) or going 50mph at freeway offramps/onramps.

To the original poster since your wife will drive it, will it be safe to presume she doesn't drive like an F1 driver? If so then rollover will be less likely. Also you can always put wider A/T tires to give it a wider track and maybe even get you bitten by the 4x4 bug.

[Bogeyman]

Maybe in the near future when Stability Control becomes standard on all vehicles only then we don't have to worry about rollovers.

To prevent rollovers, I'd rather have driver discipline as standard on all vehicles.

[arvic]

no contest! monty sports. Y?

it's a bulletproof work horse

[1D4LV]

montee din ako....

[badsekktor]

montero sport! old but reliable!

[dengaroo]

If you're sold on gadgets then the Monty Sport might not be the one for you.

It's not a car, it's a truck. This is not a jacked-up car like other compact SUV's. Fully boxed frame, solid rear axle, underbody armor and all those things you though you never really needed. And it makes no excuses as to what it really is. Merely taking off its sidesteps gives you lots of ground clearance already.

And no use comparing it to cute utes because the Monty Sport is a 5-seat midsize (not compact) SUV.

All SUV's handle differently from standard cars. Even the Trooper and Samurai were declared unsafe and prone to rollovers. But even the ones with suspension lifts and big tires are not suddenly rolling over here.

I suggest you test drive both first.

Thanks for ur suggestion. I'll ask the sales agents. I'm not sure if the new RAV4 is still considered a compact SUV because its bigger than the older RAV4 and it's dimensions isn't far from the Montero (except for ground clearance)
RAV4 (L X W X H) = 4600 X 1855 X 1720
MS = 4620 X 1775 X 1730

[OTEP]

They may be the same dimension wise. But the two are constructed in an entirely different manner.

The RAV4 is built on a more car-like monocoque platform. The Montero Sport rides on a fully boxed truck frame with underbody armor for the front differential, transmission and fuel tank.

[zidane21]

imho lang po, yung new rav4 para sa akin hindi "bang for the buck" mas mahal pa sya sa pinakahigh-end variant ng toyota fortuner pero still mini-suv pa rin sya. for me, the newest and latest toyota rav4 is a poor man's bmw x3.

[dengaroo]

If you're sold on gadgets then the Monty Sport might not be the one for you.

It's not a car, it's a truck. This is not a jacked-up car like other compact SUV's. Fully boxed frame, solid rear axle, underbody armor and all those things you though you never really needed. And it makes no excuses as to what it really is. Merely taking off its sidesteps gives you lots of ground clearance already.

And no use comparing it to cute utes because the Monty Sport is a 5-seat midsize (not compact) SUV.

All SUV's handle differently from standard cars. Even the Trooper and Samurai were declared unsafe and prone to rollovers. But even the ones with suspension lifts and big tires are not suddenly rolling over here.

I suggest you test drive both first.

They may be the same dimension wise. But the two are constructed in an entirely different manner.

The RAV4 is built on a more car-like monocoque platform. The Montero Sport rides on a fully boxed truck frame with underbody armor for the front differential, transmission and fuel tank.

yes, i agree. they're very different, with different advantages the only real objection we have for the MS is the "age." my wife isn't even too concerned about ease of driving coz its automatic anyway. i guess our greatest fear is that we buy the MS now and a few months later, a new MS will come out OR the MS will be phased out here in the Phils also.

[OTEP]

Even if the MS is phased out, it will still be a supported product since it shares parts with other more common Mitsubishis. Much the same way first generation RAV4's are still supported. Even a 1995 Vitara still has parts and service support. Expect the same for the MS.

The 'age' is actually it's advantage. Everything has been ironed out already at this point. No exploding D4d, no falling fuel tank (ala Civic) etc.

There is no planned sucessor to the Montero Sport at this time so there will not be a 'new' MS to make your MS the 'old' model. They might be using a different name if they do develop another SUV from the current Triton platform.

MS thread: http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2949

Generous approach and departure angles:


Doing its thing:


Local units get simplified manual climate control but we have a fancier audio system. Marble finish dash identical to local units. Note also gauges for volts and oil pressure. Something sorely missing in most of today's so-called 'modern' cars (replaced by an idiot light):

[Bogeyman]

The 'age' is actually it's advantage. Everything has been ironed out already at this point. No exploding D4d, no falling fuel tank (ala Civic) etc.

This may be the biggest benefit you'll be getting from the Montero Sport.

Same thing with Mitsubishi's 4D56 engine. The design is pushing 20 years already, yet it's still very much in use today in L200s, L300s, and Adventure units. Since it's so prevalent, parts are readily available. And you can be assured that a lot of mechanics are already familiar with its workings, so repairs (if ever) are not a problem.

[staind]

choosing between a Mitsubishi Montero Sport 4X4 2.8 turbodiesel and a 2006 RAV4 4X2 2.4 gas (both automatic).

since you're looking at the 2.4 gas Rav4, there'd be no D4D issue.

it drives like a car and sprints like a car so i don't think ur wife will have a hard time adjusting to driving it. my 2 cents.

[dengaroo]

Even if the MS is phased out, it will still be a supported product since it shares parts with other more common Mitsubishis. Much the same way first generation RAV4's are still supported. Even a 1995 Vitara still has parts and service support. Expect the same for the MS.

The 'age' is actually it's advantage. Everything has been ironed out already at this point. No exploding D4d, no falling fuel tank (ala Civic) etc.

There is no planned sucessor to the Montero Sport at this time so there will not be a 'new' MS to make your MS the 'old' model. They might be using a different name if they do develop another SUV from the current Triton platform.

MS thread: http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2949

Generous approach and departure angles:


Doing its thing:


Local units get simplified manual climate control but we have a fancier audio system. Marble finish dash identical to local units. Note also gauges for volts and oil pressure. Something sorely missing in most of today's so-called 'modern' cars (replaced by an idiot light):

WOW! the pics are impressive!