Mitsubishi Xpander Vs Toyota Rush

[Lakwatsero]

Im 90% city driving so diesel would be more economical for my ride. Any news on xpander diesel variant?

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Xpander is engineered in Indonesia where gasoline is cheaper than diesel. Short answer, not anytime soon. Not worth the R&D.

If Xpander is already close to Innova in price, fitting a diesel will probably match or exceed it. MMC has little room for margins since it's much smaller company lacking economies of scale.

Toyota on the other hand have the capacity with 2.4 and 2.8 GD-series engine and 6spd transmission all being used by Innova, Hilux, Fortuner, HiAce, Prado.

[ice15]

Toyota on the other hand have the capacity with 2.4 and 2.8 GD-series engine and 6spd transmission all being used by Innova, Hilux, Fortuner, HiAce, Prado.

Feeling ko matagal nating makikita yang GD Series na yan... sa totoo lang, di ako umaasang mapapalitan pa sya

[coiter]

malabo na nga siguro ang diesel xpander, although in india, sikat pa rin ang diesel and the ertiga has a variant.

pero there are reports nga that the next xpander will come with a hybrid version so i don't think mag effort pa sila sa diesel.

https://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-...id-option.html

[LOLZ]

malabo na nga siguro ang diesel xpander, although in india, sikat pa rin ang diesel and the ertiga has a variant.

pero there are reports nga that the next xpander will come with a hybrid version so i don't think mag effort pa sila sa diesel.

https://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-...id-option.html

The ertiga diesel was discontinued in march inline with their original plans to stop using diesel engines however they are rumors that are not pushing through with that plan and is currently making a new diesel engine to be used for their 2021 models

[ice15]

The ertiga diesel was discontinued in march inline with their original plans to stop using diesel engines however they are rumors that are not pushing through with that plan and is currently making a new diesel engine to be used for their 2021 models

new Indian cars requires Euro-6

May diesel naman na kaya ang Euro-6 so if the market is there, kakayanin dapat.

Ang maganda sa India, if you bought a non-Euro-6 car last year... 15 years mo ang pwede gamitin yung car... unlike dito sa Pinas na walang phase out cars natin

[LOLZ]

new Indian cars requires Euro-6

May diesel naman na kaya ang Euro-6 so if the market is there, kakayanin dapat.

Ang maganda sa India, if you bought a non-Euro-6 car last year... 15 years mo ang pwede gamitin yung car... unlike dito sa Pinas na walang phase out cars natin

i think maruti-suzuki initially deemed upgrading their new in-house euro 5 engine to euro 6 be costly to their profit margins until hyundai india decided to continue making diesels forcing suzuki's hand.

[ale828]

And kung sakaling maglabas man ng diesel version ng Xpander/Rush - bibilhin mo ba kung + 100K sya sa petrol version? aabutin ng mahigit 1.3M yung Xpander corss which is Innova/MuX price na.

If i remember correctly may discussion and computation on the cost difference a gas and a diesel version of the Innova and fortuner yata yun(the other members can correct me). The conclusion is that you need to travel at least an average of 20TKm to 25Tkm in a span of four to five years to offset the higher price of buying the diesel variant. But in reality if you check the sales of both variants of the same unit. which do you think people are buying more the gas or diesel variant even with the big price difference.

[ice15]

But in reality if you check the sales of both variants of the same unit. which do you think people are buying more the gas or diesel variant even with the big price difference.

Honestly... Ilang beses ko nang sinubukan maghanap ng sales figures... sana may magshare.

Accent Diesel vs Gas
Innova Diesel vs Gas
CR-V Diesel vs Gas

[razerph]

based sa mga reviews ng nakaxpander, matipid if highway driving.
21-22km/L which is very good for a gas. compared to other 1.5L sedans, xa na pinakamatipid, pero mukhang tested ito pag walang passenger. haha
pag city, papalo ng 8-10 lng which is okay na din.

nakita ko timeline ng Mitsu.. so mukhang matatagalan pa if ever maglabas cla ng bagong version (hopefully diesel variant)
puro minor upgrades lng muna tayo hanggang 2023

FY2020: Refreshed Eclipse Cross
FY2021: New Outlander, All-New EV SUV co-developed with GAC
FY2022: New Outlander PHEV, Kei Car EV co-developed with Nissan
FY2022: New Strada/Triton Pickup
FY2023: New Xpander/Xpander HEV, New Montero Sport/Pajero Sport, Two New Models

[razerph]

Oo nga, wala pa silang balak mag-diesel sa Xpander. Magiging mahal din siguro pag-reconfigure nito.

Okay Xpander pang city driving, comfortable at magaan dalhin, parang naka-upo so sofa. Maliit ang kabig, okay sa mga eskinita at masikip na parking lots.

Dual AC ang Xpander.

Magandang katapat din nito ang BRV/XL7/Ertiga. (Dual AC din)

ito timeline ni mitsu.. mtagal tagal pa ang hintayan
FY2020: Refreshed Eclipse Cross
FY2021: New Outlander, All-New EV SUV co-developed with GAC
FY2022: New Outlander PHEV, Kei Car EV co-developed with Nissan
FY2022: New Strada/Triton Pickup
FY2023: New Xpander/Xpander HEV, New Montero Sport/Pajero Sport, Two New Models

[carxynogen]

Honestly... Ilang beses ko nang sinubukan maghanap ng sales figures... sana may magshare.

Accent Diesel vs Gas
Innova Diesel vs Gas
CR-V Diesel vs Gas

This is the article that you are looking for.
Just change the url to carguidedotph (if you know what I mean).
Which is Cheaper to Own: Honda CR-V 2.0 S Gasoline or Honda CR-V 1.6 S Diesel?

[coiter]

ito timeline ni mitsu.. mtagal tagal pa ang hintayan
FY2020: Refreshed Eclipse Cross
FY2021: New Outlander, All-New EV SUV co-developed with GAC
FY2022: New Outlander PHEV, Kei Car EV co-developed with Nissan
FY2022: New Strada/Triton Pickup
FY2023: New Xpander/Xpander HEV, New Montero Sport/Pajero Sport, Two New Models

yup. late 2017 lang lumabas xpander sa indonesia and usually at least 5 years ang cycle before an all-new model. baka mauna pa brv. yung rush halos kasabay lang pala ng xpander.

[dr. d]

And kung sakaling maglabas man ng diesel version ng Xpander/Rush - bibilhin mo ba kung + 100K sya sa petrol version? aabutin ng mahigit 1.3M yung Xpander corss which is Innova/MuX price na.

the buyer who prefers diesel because of fuel considerations, will probably make those computations.
but the buyer who prefers one or the other, for non-monetary considerations... they won't bother to compute. they'll just buy it.

[ice15]

This is the article that you are looking for.
Just change the url to carguidedotph (if you know what I mean).
Which is Cheaper to Own: Honda CR-V 2.0 S Gasoline or Honda CR-V 1.6 S Diesel?

Sales figures hinahanp ko...

E.g. ilang Accent Gas vs Accent Diesel ang nabenta ng Hyundai Ph. Same with the CR-V and Innova

[dr. d]

Honestly... Ilang beses ko nang sinubukan maghanap ng sales figures... sana may magshare.

Accent Diesel vs Gas
Innova Diesel vs Gas
CR-V Diesel vs Gas

googled indian figures (jan-jun 2018).

accent gas - 61%
accent diesel - 39%

innova gas - 1%
innova diesel - 99%

[ice15]

googled indian figures (jan-jun 2018).

accent gas - 61%
accent diesel - 39%

innova gas - 1%
innova diesel - 99%

^looking for local figures. para masagot na yung "sana diesel" and "sana manual"

I'm honestly surprised na may A/T Diesel Innova na sa India (2 variants as per Toyota India), I remember 2 years ago puro Manual yung nakikita ko.

[LOLZ]

^looking for local figures. para masagot na yung "sana diesel" and "sana manual"

I'm honestly surprised na may A/T Diesel Innova na sa India (2 variants as per Toyota India), I remember 2 years ago puro Manual yung nakikita ko.

they went all out on the innova this gen with both 2.4 and 2.8(now discontinued) diesel variants

[tarzegetakizerd]

the buyer who prefers diesel because of fuel considerations, will probably make those computations.
but the buyer who prefers one or the other, for non-monetary considerations... they won't bother to compute. they'll just buy it.

Medyo ganito yung dilemma ko last year in buying a second hand car. Choices were Honda Civic FD2 or Hyundai Accent Diesel. may dagdag na 100-150k yung accent kasi mas bago. In the end mas pinili ko civic kasi nacompute ko di ko mauubos yung 150k sa savings sa diesel for at least a number of years.

[dr. d]

Medyo ganito yung dilemma ko last year in buying a second hand car. Choices were Honda Civic FD2 or Hyundai Accent Diesel. may dagdag na 100-150k yung accent kasi mas bago. In the end mas pinili ko civic kasi nacompute ko di ko mauubos yung 150k sa savings sa diesel for at least a number of years.

not to mention,
the pollution considerations.

[coiter]

googled indian figures (jan-jun 2018).

accent gas - 61%
accent diesel - 39%

innova gas - 1%
innova diesel - 99%

meron din kaya for the ertiga gas vs diesel?
moreso the chevy spin which was sold here in both variants din dito. at least both vehicles are in the same class as the xpander.