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    Good day mga masters. Hihingi lng ng opinion nyo po.

    My wife and I are planning to buy an AUV. This will be use in sending the kids in school (near our house about 5kms), in business (will carry heavy things like bundles of ukay ukay), weekend trips to church with friends, and out of town with family (I have 3 kids).
    I planned first in buying Innova E diesel but I dont know if the 3rd row is comfy for adults. Also it is hassle that you need to bend the 2nd row in order to sit in 3rd row. Also putting heavy things above the seat might damage it.

    We then check Adventure GLS which I think is great. But the dealer said it will be phased out and will be replaced. Also someone advised me that the isuzu crosswind is much better option.

    May I ask for your opinion on this. I am sorry for the long post. Thanks and more power

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    How much is your budget? If it's not a problem, mas ok kunin ang innova. Dami pang modern features kaysa adventure or crosswind. Yung 3rd row naman ay front facing and it has more leg room than most ppvs. You can still fit 3 people there comfortably and you can fold it to side pag di gagamitin yung isa kaya you can place things there. I believe spacious yan for 3 since malapad din siya tsaka di naman siguro masisira yung upuan pag pinatungan, basta wag lang sobrang bigat ilalagay mo.

    Yung adventure at crosswind kasi, they are durable naman kaso old models na about 2 decades na nasa market tapos parang ngayon pa lang nila papalitan, in the case of adventure. Sa crosswind, you might expect the nvh to be very crude since yung engine niya eh maingay talaga dahil timing gear yan. Good though in the long run pero starting 2018, di na siguro pwede iregister unless imodify ng isuzu into a euro iv vehicle.

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    Don't worry about the Euro 4 requirement. As long as you buy the car this year, you will be able to use the car for as long as you want.

    As for your choices. I'd choose the Adventure thanks to it's 7 seat configuration.

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    I will still check sa bank. Looking at installment for 5years. Kaya naisip ko po na AUV kc gagamitin for business din kung anu maisipan ni misis. Currently may ukay ukay business na kami but baka mag venture sa iba na need ng may cargo.

    Tinignan namin adventure GLS parang 98K down and 19K monthly 5yrs.

    Pag nakuha sa dasal, we will also go to Innova dealer to compare.

    Thanks po sa mga inputs mga idol. Regards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marv_chua View Post
    Good day mga masters. Hihingi lng ng opinion nyo po.

    My wife and I are planning to buy an AUV. This will be use in sending the kids in school (near our house about 5kms), in business (will carry heavy things like bundles of ukay ukay), weekend trips to church with friends, and out of town with family (I have 3 kids).
    I planned first in buying Innova E diesel but I dont know if the 3rd row is comfy for adults. Also it is hassle that you need to bend the 2nd row in order to sit in 3rd row. Also putting heavy things above the seat might damage it.

    We then check Adventure GLS which I think is great. But the dealer said it will be phased out and will be replaced. Also someone advised me that the isuzu crosswind is much better option.

    May I ask for your opinion on this. I am sorry for the long post. Thanks and more power
    If you have a budget din naman better to stretch it out to an Innova. Adventure & Crosswind will be phased out by 2018.

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    Innova is much much better. Sobrang luma na ng adventure at crosswind

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    Quote Originally Posted by marv_chua View Post
    Good day mga masters. Hihingi lng ng opinion nyo po.

    My wife and I are planning to buy an AUV. This will be use in sending the kids in school (near our house about 5kms), in business (will carry heavy things like bundles of ukay ukay), weekend trips to church with friends, and out of town with family (I have 3 kids).
    I planned first in buying Innova E diesel but I dont know if the 3rd row is comfy for adults. Also it is hassle that you need to bend the 2nd row in order to sit in 3rd row. Also putting heavy things above the seat might damage it.

    We then check Adventure GLS which I think is great. But the dealer said it will be phased out and will be replaced. Also someone advised me that the isuzu crosswind is much better option.

    May I ask for your opinion on this. I am sorry for the long post. Thanks and more power
    Would you opt for a van instead of an AUV? Say Hiace commuter or the Nissan NV350. Yes they do cost much higher but the space you will have will be way more sufficient than the AUV's, you can load more stuff. Other good features of the vans as compared with AUV's, Powerful engine (way more!), More efficient, higher load capability, more comfortable to passengers as the space is great, to name a few. My brother was in the same dilema, and he has this bookstore business, he did'nt go wrong in choosing the NV350

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    Quote Originally Posted by marv_chua View Post
    I planned first in buying Innova E diesel but I dont know if the 3rd row is comfy for adults. Also it is hassle that you need to bend the 2nd row in order to sit in 3rd row. Also putting heavy things above the seat might damage it.
    mas maluwag pa 3rd row ng Innova compared to Forts and MU-Xs and hindi tatama ang ulo mo sa ceiling if the occupants are on the taller side

    tried loading tiles onto the folded seats and no problem. the Innova outclasses the two except maybe for loading and seating capacity

    we have the three and nababagalan ako sa arangkada ng Adventure and Crosswind, kahit A/T pa yung Innova

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    If you'll either keep or sell the vehicle after some years of use, then you might want to consider the resale value. The innova will obviously be on top given that it's a toyota and is also the most modern of the three while the crosswind esp. the sportivo variants will be the 2nd because the sportivo is overpriced but it is also very reliable and fuel efficient at the same time. The adventure comes at last but it doesnt mean it's the worst. It's just that it's not as powerful as the innova nor as fuel efficient as the crosswind but while it can't really be compared to the former, it has better nvh levels than the latter for sure and some even say that it has more comfortable suspension than the isuzu. Both the adventure and the crosswind are smoke belchers though since of their old but reliable engines. Driving either of them in certain areas of edsa might catch an asbu's attention if caught redhanded so you should watch out for them.

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    if you're old school and don't like complex modern engines

    if you like to drive slow (like me )

    if you don't mind buying a super old design

    if you don't mind polluting the air

    go for it

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    The better choice (based on your situation)

    Adventure = cheaper to maintain + parts everywhere.

    I think the rear suspension of the Innova is not as heavy duty as that of the Adventure and the Crosswind?

    Coils versus leaf springs.

    If your monthly budget is within the X amount lang, wag pilitin.

    Buy what is practical for you and your family.

    Good luck.

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    If I'm going to use it for business like loading your ukay ukay. tama yung
    suggestion na go for the Nissan van or hiace. sa comfort,capacity and
    power. but for budget contraints i'll go for the adventure or crosswind.

    the new innova is the best choice but baka manghinayang ka kargahan hehe. consider the price and maintenance cost.

    yung crosswind mas maluwag compared sa adventure. you can visit and view sa casa so you can compare.

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    To add to my comment earlier...

    Innova is great, it's modern, fast, comfortable and reliable.

    Sweet spot for the Adventure and Crosswind (for me) are the GLX and XT variants. If you're getting the top of the line versions, better get the entry level Innova.

    Adventure gets a big plus for the 7 seat configuration, we all know how uncomfortable it is to sit on the side facing seats of a UV Express

    Adventure and Crosswind are the last AUVs. rear leaf springs are so easy to maintain. No computer box, no fancy electronics.

    Yes, you don't get the ABS, EBD and Airbags

    But if something goes wrong... You can always find an under the tree mechanic to make basic repairs.

    The Isuzu Crosswind is sadly getting the axe | TopGear Philippines

    Can you still register your Euro 2 vehicle in 2018? | TopGear Philippines

    Even if the DENR will no longer accept Euro 2 Certificates of Conformity (COC) as a basis of initial registration with LTO beginning January 1, 2018, this only applies to brand-new vehicles.

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    Let me add another thing that can be included in one of your concerns: the innova also edges the two auvs by offering more safety, even if it's just the j variant. It's also 2017 already yet afaik, throughout the years neither isuzu or mitsubishi have considered putting airbags and abs in their respective auvs. Even small cars like the wigo have airbags in their base model. It should be standard nowadays.

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    I have an adventure gls as my daily drive and crosswind XT service at our office.. the only plus of the crosswind is its timing gear engine with low charge turbo.. everthing else adventure! Build quality and riding comfort is much better.. crosswind have gaps in between door and body at the bottom (you can see the road while inside the cabin). Seats are much comfy with adventure with 60:40 split. Shaky steering wheel with the crosswind will make your hands numb in traffic!

    Owning these AUVs are hassle free, low maintenance and will serve your basic needs!

    Although not equipped with supplemental safety equipment such as ABS airbag etc.. these AUV have handicap in speed and accelaration.. 0 - 100 will take you a minute and going 100 makes the engine shouting on top of its voice consuming lotsa diesel.. 60kph is the optimal and 80kph is max speed.
    Last edited by yapoy86; September 18th, 2017 at 10:41 PM.

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    I have different experience with my XTO. I dont experience yung numbness holding the wheel even driving the whole day. What is that opening that you are seeing, I have not notice it. My XTO is 16 years na and still strong. 120 to 130 kph is very easy to attain without problem. Pang day to day use at cheap to maintain. If you are looking for fancy car this is not your car.
    I have a front facing 3rd row do di gaanong problema umupo sa likod. Yung 3rd row can hold a lot of baggage since you fold front yung upuan pag hindi mo gagamitin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvnj View Post
    Would you opt for a van instead of an AUV? Say Hiace commuter or the Nissan NV350. Yes they do cost much higher but the space you will have will be way more sufficient than the AUV's, you can load more stuff. Other good features of the vans as compared with AUV's, Powerful engine (way more!), More efficient, higher load capability, more comfortable to passengers as the space is great, to name a few. My brother was in the same dilema, and he has this bookstore business, he did'nt go wrong in choosing the NV350
    Thanks for this info. Baka mahirapan si misis pag cya mag drive ng van kc mahaba. Nag aaral pa lng cya mag drive. Baka punta kami toyota dealer within the week. Would anyone po recommend a bank na mababa inerest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marv_chua View Post
    Thanks for this info. Baka mahirapan si misis pag cya mag drive ng van kc mahaba. Nag aaral pa lng cya mag drive. Baka punta kami toyota dealer within the week. Would anyone po recommend a bank na mababa inerest?
    Pag si misis nga ang mag drive ng van mahihirapan nga sya, lalo na't first timer pa lang. Anyway among the two, its the Adventure who wins in terms of comfort (engine noise and vibration of the crosswind sucks!) and easier to drive (parang de gasolina naman tumakbo yung adventure, smooth). We have an adventure, crosswind and innova as company service vehicle. In terms of load capacity, the crosswind wins, especially if you will load people. The third row of the adventure (side facing) has limited headroom especially at the rear most portion, sagad na ulo mo sa kisame, mahirap pag sa lubak o humps, tatama ulo mo The Innova? It trumps both the adventure and crosswind in almost all of the aspects (except of course the loading capacity). I suggest you test drive all the vehicles yourself (with the wife of course ) and see what satisfies you the most.

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    Thanks mga idol for your valuable inputs. Nakwento ko nga kay misis that we will check Innova E diesel Matic and she is very excited since matic. But I am hoping that matuto cya mag manual kc lam ko mas mura ang PMS, price, etc. Any Innova users po dyan na pede mag advise kung pros and cons ng manual vs matic Innova?

    Thanks po ulit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelany View Post
    I have different experience with my XTO. I dont experience yung numbness holding the wheel even driving the whole day. What is that opening that you are seeing, I have not notice it. My XTO is 16 years na and still strong. 120 to 130 kph is very easy to attain without problem. Pang day to day use at cheap to maintain. If you are looking for fancy car this is not your car.
    I have a front facing 3rd row do di gaanong problema umupo sa likod. Yung 3rd row can hold a lot of baggage since you fold front yung upuan pag hindi mo gagamitin.
    May gap yung mga units namin sa office sa 2nd row doors. Sa lower portion. In between cabin floor at yung pinto medyo malaki yung siwang kahit fully closed yung pinto.. di din maganda amoy kahit brand new lahat 40 units yun! Yung sa steering wheel lakas talaga ng yanig eh pati kambyo.. yung speed naman kaya naman talaga ng adventure at crosswind yung 120 kph di nga lang kasing smooth ng innova..

    Pero practicality at hassle free ownership panalo yan compared sa innova lalo na kung matagalan ang gamit..

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