Mazda 3 Skyactive R vs Civic 1.8E

[jannmunion]

Rear legroom lamang na lamang ang Civic.

FC ng 1.8, eto based on actual data:

City - 8.59 km/L
Mixed - 11.53 km/L
Highway - 15.146 km/L
Overall average over 19,000 km - 10.98 km/L


What do you define as "better driving experience"? Have you test driven both?

You're right, pareho namang head-turner.



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Civic pa lang na test drive ko. So far mababa pala ang design nya kesa sa 2011 city namin. Yun lang concern ko sa civic. Ok naman handling nya. Mas lighter ang steer kesa sa city namin now

[jojopad]

Civic pa lang na test drive ko. So far mababa pala ang design nya kesa sa 2011 city namin. Yun lang concern ko sa civic.

Are you referring to the minimum ground clearance? I think the M3 is 6.1in. The Civic is probably around the same figure.

[jut703]

Civic pa lang na test drive ko. So far mababa pala ang design nya kesa sa 2011 city namin. Yun lang concern ko sa civic. Ok naman handling nya. Mas lighter ang steer kesa sa city namin now

Mababa ang driving position ng Civic pero hindi prone to sayad. In fact never pa kong sumayad sa Civic unlike my old Altis na mas mataas ang ride height pero sumasabit bumper sa steep ramps.

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[travajante]

There are workarounds on raising the car's ground clearance w/o making em look like crossovers, though. Mild upsizing of tires or the wheel-tire combo are a couple. I say mild coz one has to be aware of its effect on the speed & odometers. The other is the more complex air suspension...let's not go there.[emoji4]
One thing that's seldom discussed is the overhang, front & rear. The longer the bumper overhang from the tires, the more scrape-prone the car is. I do a lot of RoRoadtrips, hence, I go more for hatches...they have shorter rear overhangs, making em friendlier on ramps...esp when doing reverse entry on RoRos.... worse on high tide. Longer front overhangs will tend to penalize on ramp & speed-bump approaches. You can see the comparison here:

Hatches have the option of bigger cargo volume w/ rear backrests down, too. The hatch 3 was tested by a bud to fit a full-size mountain bike w/o wheel removal....before he jumped. He hates bike racks & takes his bike in his 3 every weekend for training. Here's what a hatch 3 can load....



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[jannmunion]

There are workarounds on raising the car's ground clearance w/o making em look like crossovers, though. Mild upsizing of tires or the wheel-tire combo are a couple. I say mild coz one has to be aware of its effect on the speed & odometers. The other is the more complex air suspension...let's not go there.[emoji4]
One thing that's seldom discussed is the overhang, front & rear. The longer the bumper overhang from the tires, the more scrape-prone the car is. I do a lot of RoRoadtrips, hence, I go more for hatches...they have shorter rear overhangs, making em friendlier on ramps...esp when doing reverse entry on RoRos.... worse on high tide. Longer front overhangs will tend to penalize on ramp & speed-bump approaches. You can see the comparison here:

Hatches have the option of bigger cargo volume w/ rear backrests down, too. The hatch 3 was tested by a bud to fit a full-size mountain bike w/o wheel removal....before he jumped. He hates bike racks & takes his bike in his 3 every weekend for training. Here's what a hatch 3 can load....



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Yung overhang po ba ng civic is longer than m3? Really cant tell kasi

[jannmunion]

Mababa ang driving position ng Civic pero hindi prone to sayad. In fact never pa kong sumayad sa Civic unlike my old Altis na mas mataas ang ride height pero sumasabit bumper sa steep ramps.

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Oo mababa compared sa city parang nanibago ako. Went to Mazda today and sabi nya FC ng totl m3 (which is 2.0l) is parang 1.5L because of iloop and istop. Sa civic naman daw eh 1.8 is 1.8 so malaki fc. Yung civic nyo sir rs or yung E?

[jannmunion]

I went to mazda today kaso walang totl m3 na avaiable so tinest drive ko yung m3 2014 ng SA namin totl. Ok naman drive nya tho parang comfortable ako sa civic. Na test drive ko but short lang yung 1.8E eh. Whats holding me on to M3 is the sunroof iloop and istop so logically kahit 2.0 pa sya mas efficient sya. Totl kasi so complete talaga. But i feel like mas maganda transmission ng civic. Dilemma talaga ako and we're kind of worried sa excise so dapat asap na sya

[travajante]

Yung overhang po ba ng civic is longer than m3? Really cant tell kasi

Front & rear, the 3s have significantly less overhangs.

Proper ramp angles are supposed to be governed by building codes. Yet, we still see terrible forced ones due to run limitations. A reality we encounter often. These shouldn't have passed inspections.

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[jut703]

Oo mababa compared sa city parang nanibago ako. Went to Mazda today and sabi nya FC ng totl m3 (which is 2.0l) is parang 1.5L because of iloop and istop. Sa civic naman daw eh 1.8 is 1.8 so malaki fc. Yung civic nyo sir rs or yung E?

1.8 yung Civic ko. I posted my FC numbers already which are actually better than my old 1.6 Altis. Also, hindi sumasabit Civic kasi mataas yung approach angle ng front niya, lalo na compared sa Mazda 3 Speed na may lower lip pa. Kitang kita naman sa pictures.

Matanong kita, anong bang mas feel mo right now?

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[jannmunion]

1.8 yung Civic ko. I posted my FC numbers already which are actually better than my old 1.6 Altis. Also, hindi sumasabit Civic kasi mataas yung approach angle ng front niya, lalo na compared sa Mazda 3 Speed na may lower lip pa. Kitang kita naman sa pictures.

Matanong kita, anong bang mas feel mo right now?

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Ay sorry didnt check the username sir. Uhmm i actually like the civic. Kaso medo konti time and distance ko to test drive since stock yung tinry ko. Kaso totl ng mazda kasi yung other option which has all the tech esp iloop istop and sunroof. Ang ganda ng illumination ng sunroof kasi haha

[jut703]

Ay sorry didnt check the username sir. Uhmm i actually like the civic. Kaso medo konti time and distance ko to test drive since stock yung tinry ko. Kaso totl ng mazda kasi yung other option which has all the tech esp iloop istop and sunroof. Ang ganda ng illumination ng sunroof kasi haha

My Mazda 3 has a sunroof. It was a fun feature at first, but in reality there's really not much need for it. The sun shines so brightly in the Philippines that you have enough illumination from your windows, and if you open the sunroof in broad daylight, sobrang init.

Nice to have though and it's a cute feature but not a dealbreaker.

If you like the Civic more, get the Civic. If you like the Mazda 3 more, get the Mazda 3.

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[MR_BIG18]

My Mazda 3 has a sunroof. It was a fun feature at first, but in reality there's really not much need for it. The sun shines so brightly in the Philippines that you have enough illumination from your windows, and if you open the sunroof in broad daylight, sobrang init.

Nice to have though and it's a cute feature but not a dealbreaker.

If you like the Civic more, get the Civic. If you like the Mazda 3 more, get the Mazda 3.

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i leave it open in the mornings 7-730am, glass and all...not that hot pa, gusto kong naiinitan ako sa mornings..

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[jannmunion]

My Mazda 3 has a sunroof. It was a fun feature at first, but in reality there's really not much need for it. The sun shines so brightly in the Philippines that you have enough illumination from your windows, and if you open the sunroof in broad daylight, sobrang init.

Nice to have though and it's a cute feature but not a dealbreaker.

If you like the Civic more, get the Civic. If you like the Mazda 3 more, get the Mazda 3.

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Hows the driving experience w m3? Esp transmission? Factor din pala paddle shifters but i dont think i can use it in city drive tho.

[jut703]

Hows the driving experience w m3? Esp transmission? Factor din pala paddle shifters but i dont think i can use it in city drive tho.

My Mazda 3 2.0 is a 2004 model, while my Civic is the 2017 model. But I've also driven the current Mazda 3 2.0. Like I said in my previous post, the Mazda 3 is more engaging, the Civic is more comfortable.

I drive hundreds of kilometers a day with my Civic and it's not tiring to drive at all whether heavy traffic or twisty mountain roads.

The Mazda feels fast even when it's slow so it feels more exciting, the Civic feels slow even when it's fast so it's not tiring too drive. But like I said, don't be fooled by the Civic's comfortable ride - it can take corners as quickly as the Mazda.

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[jannmunion]

My Mazda 3 2.0 is a 2004 model, while my Civic is the 2017 model. But I've also driven the current Mazda 3 2.0. Like I said in my previous post, the Mazda 3 is more engaging, the Civic is more comfortable.

I drive hundreds of kilometers a day with my Civic and it's not tiring to drive at all whether heavy traffic or twisty mountain roads.

The Mazda feels fast even when it's slow so it feels more exciting, the Civic feels slow even when it's fast so it's not tiring too drive. But like I said, don't be fooled by the Civic's comfortable ride - it can take corners as quickly as the Mazda.

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Ahhh!!! Im really sorry di ko binabasa usernames kasi. Ikaw pala yun hahah im so sorry. Thanks sir! This thread is really helpful baka mag civic na rin lang kami. But question, would you pick the burgundy, dark gray, black, or cosmic blue? Hahah sorry again

[travajante]

Hows the driving experience w m3? Esp transmission? Factor din pala paddle shifters but i dont think i can use it in city drive tho.

The Sky tranny is among its strong points. Most enthusiasts & tranny rebuilders shun CVTs. The paddles are a convenience for passes & climbs. I had to gather OE parts to hook them up to our base 2 which came w/o paddles.
You can learn more about the Sky 6AT below...
Mazda's SKYACTIV
MAZDA: SKYACTIV-DRIVE | SKYACTIV TECHNOLOGY

Learn more on CVTs here:
CVT Transmission Pros & Cons | Certified Transmission Repair


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[jut703]

Ahhh!!! Im really sorry di ko binabasa usernames kasi. Ikaw pala yun hahah im so sorry. Thanks sir! This thread is really helpful baka mag civic na rin lang kami. But question, would you pick the burgundy, dark gray, black, or cosmic blue? Hahah sorry again

My ranking of colors:

1. Cosmic Blue (dark blue, this is what I have)
2. White Orchid Pearl (pearl white, +20k)
3. Lunar Silver (silver)
4. Modern Steel (dark grey)
5. Midnight Burgundy (purplish black)



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[jannmunion]

My ranking of colors:

1. Cosmic Blue (dark blue, this is what I have)
2. White Orchid Pearl (pearl white, +20k)
3. Lunar Silver (silver)
4. Modern Steel (dark grey)
5. Midnight Burgundy (purplish black)



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Yes i think the cosmic is unique! Thanks!!

[the_arrow]

My ranking of colors:

1. Cosmic Blue (dark blue, this is what I have)
2. White Orchid Pearl (pearl white, +20k)
3. Lunar Silver (silver)
4. Modern Steel (dark grey)
5. Midnight Burgundy (purplish black)



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Ang ganda sir jut703! Metal finish po ang mags nyo? Ano size?

[jut703]

Ang ganda sir jut703! Metal finish po ang mags nyo? Ano size?

Yes, it's polished silver, 18" rims.
These are originally from the Accord V6.

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