Looking for low-priced vehicle for the floods

[LOLZ]

500 mm is too low ... by flood we mean 800-1000 mm ...

i think only some pickups (and SUV equivalents) can meet a 800mm wading depth requirement stock (but has the benefit of offroading accessories support and larger wheelwells). Even then most of them are rated with the bow wave taken advantage off to lower the engine bay water level rather than the vehicle is sitting still.

Ranger (current and T6) 800mm at 7kph max w/o stopping per the owners manual
Maxus T80 is 800mm
Navara 800mm moving likely with water intrusionin the cabin/450mm sitting still(probably same methodology as the Avanza and G2 Jimny's 300mm)
Terra is tested at 800mm at 3kph
Chevy colorado tracker(the one with the lift and snorkel) 880mm
Gen 2 MU-X is 800mm(Gen 1 is 600mm due to the air-intake system -potentially the stock colorado too)

Hilux/fort/prado/200 are all 700mm
Pajero is 700mm
strada is 600mm but montero is 700mm

it's probably cheaper to modify the mechanical diesel AUV's or contemporary pickups to that level.

[Walter]

Used Jimnys too expensive ...

[carxynogen]

Used Jimnys too expensive ...

Yupp, grabe presyohan ng mga ahente sa 3 door used na 2019-2021.
Same price ng brand new, mga 50k lang difference.
Mapa comment sana ako why ganun ang pricing.
Usual response naman is if interested daw, might entertain reasonable offers.

Akala cgro nila yung new price ngayon na 1.5-1.6m na for 5-door ay sa 3-door pa rin.

[Verbl Kint]

Used Jimnys too expensive ...

Replace "too expensive" with "are overpriced"

[Miles_on]

Replace "too expensive" with "are overpriced"

Lalo na with all the stupid and dangerous modifications some owners put on their vehicles.
If may ricey mods for sedans, meron din with this SUV.

[dr. d]

Lalo na with all the stupid and dangerous modifications some owners put on their vehicles.
If may ricey mods for sedans, meron din with this SUV.

a used car dealer once said,
"the stock cars are the easier cars to sell.

personally, i usually frown on modded cars.
"what else did the owner do with the car that might have degraded its reliability, that i am not aware of?"

[12vdc]

Seriosuly why drive over the floods? The safest depth is gutter-deep, if you could no longer see the gutter then don't proceed.

Wheel hub height of your vehicle is the most obvious indicator of how high it could do water crossing without damaging the drivetrain esp the wheel bearings. If you keep the gutter-deep in mind, even a sedan with 14" wheels could do just fine with gutter-deep floods.

12yrs na pala si TS naghanap, siguro naman nahanap na nya. Kahit Malabon at Obando hangang doon sa Taliptip sa ginagawang new Airport tinaas na mga kalsada, pwede na mag sedan. Kahit dyan sa UST Espana at G.Araneta if you keep in mind the gutter-deep principle then hindi ka magkakaproblema.

[dr. d]

Seriosuly why drive over the floods? The safest depth is gutter-deep, if you could no longer see the gutter then don't proceed.

well, sometimes we simply have no choice on the matter...
so the next best thing is to have a tall-ish vehicle to drive in.

i am confident, if flooding is non-existent in our driving routes, the number of SUV sales will be significantly lower.

[Walter]

Seriosuly why drive over the floods? The safest depth is gutter-deep, if you could no longer see the gutter then don't proceed.

Rescue situations ...

[ice15]

if you could no longer see the gutter then don't proceed.

this is what irritates me with Pinoy drivers...

I now use my Vespa to work 90% of the time...

When it rains hard, 2-3 parts of the EDSA Kalayaan flyover will be flooded (gutter deep - around 6 inches)

We motorbikes cross the floods, together with L300s and delivery trucks.

The main cause of traffic? Crossovers and SUVs (mostly Fortuners and Monteros) who try to avoid the flood

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When Walter revived this thread last March, I was thinking, does he need a vehicle to cross floods in Espana? or Visayas Ave cor Tandang Sora flood (you feel the water hitting the floor of your car while passing)

[dr. d]

Seriosuly why drive over the floods? The safest depth is gutter-deep, if you could no longer see the gutter then don't proceed.

actually,
the gutter is that depression running parallel to the road, usually at the periphery of the road. it drains water off the road.
thus, the gutter is the first part of the road to get wet and get covered by water. sometimes, the road ain't flooded, but the gutter is.

what we are probably refering to in the statement quoted above, is the curb.
this is the edge of the (elevated) sidewalk. in local lore, it can be anything from one to three inches higher than the road surface or gutter beside it, to even a foot tall, depending on the designs of the designer.

[viper888]

I dont pass Kalayaan Flyover when its raining hard, it can easily flood on one side. Of course SUV drivers will try to avoid the flood because they dont want to have to pay for repairs for bearings or brakes. L300 and delivery truck drivers dont give an F because theyre usually hired to drive and its not their car.

The depth of a flood on the flyover is deceiving because there are no reference levels to see, when youre there you dont know if its 4 inches or 12 and all you see is a reflection.

Kalayaan Flyover flooding probably happens a few times per year so I would not call it a cause of traffic

[dr. d]

I dont pass Kalayaan Flyover when its raining hard, it can easily flood on one side.

i have a theory why some concrete flyovers and stuff easily flood.
i think it's because, sometime during its construction, someones drained their cement-laden effluent waters into the drains, thus clogging said drain pipes...

[Walter]

Another reason would be the water pump is not working ... if the drainage was clogged ... it would be flooded all the time ...

[dr. d]

Another reason would be the water pump is not working ... if the drainage was clogged ... it would be flooded all the time ...

i am reminded of the Lagusnilad, in front of manila city hole.
for some reason, since its construction, it leaked at the surface, probably due to leaking pipe-age underneath, and flooded easily during heavy rain, due to non-functioning pumps.
it recently had a major overhaul. i await the rains!
heh heh.

[ice15]

Of course SUV drivers will try to avoid the flood because they dont want to have to pay for repairs for bearings or brakes.

the flood is not even deep enough to reach the Fortuner/Montero's stock rims.

I guess their protecting their tire blacks

[dr. d]

some folks choose their vehicles for the utility.
others, for the bragging rights.
heh heh.

[ice15]

some folks choose their vehicles for the utility.
others, for the bragging rights.
heh heh.

its either their protecting their tire black or they don't want their tire valves to get wet...

isipin na lang natin na baka masira TPMS nila kapag nilusong sa baha!

[Verbl Kint]

the flood is not even deep enough to reach the Fortuner/Montero's stock rims.

I guess their protecting their tire blacks

I know many people who bought a Fortuner/Montero/Everest as their first car. Literally, the first car they bought after driving school. My hunch is nag-iingat pa kasi mga noobs sa kalsada at takot sa baha.


May kakilala nga ako, bumili na ng Montero, di pa tapos sa course niya sa Ewan Driving School.

[dr. d]

I know many people who bought a Fortuner/Montero/Everest as their first car. Literally, the first car they bought after driving school. My hunch is nag-iingat pa kasi mga noobs sa kalsada at takot sa baha.


May kakilala nga ako, bumili na ng Montero, di pa tapos sa course niya sa Ewan Driving School.

judge judy once made cuento,
"when i was in college, my dad didn't buy me a corvette or a bimmer or a pony car. he bought me a caddy! so there i was, driving a grandfather's car as my classmates zoomed past me in their sports cars. but dad said, 'if you get into an accident, i'd feel better, knowing you are wrapped and protected by a big metal box and not inside a small tincan of a car.' ".

closer to home,
my boy drives the ancient altis, even as it is a relative gas guzzler, and not the comparatively gas-sipping wigo,
for the same reason.