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  1. Join Date
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    Hi guys!

    I'm considering to buy a second hand starex 99 to 01 model or a local spacegear diesel 98 to 00 model.

    As I had observed in this site, the starex won many praises both in reliability and styling, it has many options than the spacegear especially in exterior and interior appointments.

    for me I really like the starex but the space gear still prevents me in purchasing a resonably priced but good condition 01' starex TDIC. I also noticed that a ggod condition local spacegear (which is always in color 2 tone green and black) was much harder to find than the more popular starex, I just end up seeing surplus units from japan which I avoid because of the RHD doors.

    Well guys what do you think? I just saw resonably condition local 98' spacegear for 350k, do you think it is ok for it's price? while the 01' starex for 480k.

    I'm tempted because of the lower pricing of the spacegear, do you think a local spacegear is good?

    Tnx! god speed!

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    Starex sucks big time(korean made) A friend of mine in manila had a starex turbo diesel he had a problem on the way to baguio, When he was at pampanga he felt that their was no power(torque) and when he pulled over and checked the engine their was smoke all over the place.They found out that they had 2 pistons rod broken(they rebuilt the engine).AFIK starex are known for overheating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronald_m View Post
    Starex sucks big time(korean made) A friend of mine in manila had a starex turbo diesel he had a problem on the way to baguio, When he was at pampanga he felt that their was no power(torque) and when he pulled over and checked the engine their was smoke all over the place.They found out that they had 2 pistons rod broken(they rebuilt the engine).AFIK starex are known for overheating.
    Hehehe... I remembered ISUZU!!! I thought that D-max or Fuego was gonna blow! Its pretty horribbblleeeee!

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    I think the best answer to the question is...

    Manual Transmission or Automatic Transmission? Coz, if A/T, only Starex has that option unlike the Local Spacegear. Sometimes, you'd think that Mitsubishi Philippines don't wanna sell their cars/vans here in the Philippines... Just think about the it, the local spacegear does not have a front cupholder unlike those Subic spacegears. Also, the front passenger seat is not even reclinable unlike again on the Subic ones and the Starex. The aircon control on the local spacegear is manual obsolete sliding type unlike the fully digital controlled ones on the Subic. 4D56 Turbo only on the local unlike the Intercooled ones from Subic.

    Parang sabi ng Mitsubishi Philippines.... BUMILI NALANG KAYO SA SUBIC OR MAG STAREX NALANG KAYO!!! To add to this insult... the local spacegear came out with A/T tranny but on a gas guzzler engine and still with the non-reclining front passenger seat!!! Parang sinasabi nila "WAG NA KAYO BUMILI NG LOCAL SPACEGEAR!!!"

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    #5
    Keeping the L300 tradition alive (non-reclining front seat). hehehe.

    Ironically, the A/T of the Starex is also manufactured by Aisin. The same guys that manufacture A/T's for Mitsubishi.

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    I'd go with the '01 Starex over the Space Gear almost any day... more space, more power and more features... and your shifter is floor mounted. Parts are easily available and easy to repair. Reliability of the Starex, especially the 2000 and up models are much better and a lot depends on how the previous owner maintained it. ;)

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    Why starex have fire extinguisher from the factory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronald_m
    Why starex have fire extinguisher from the factory?
    why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronald_m
    Why starex have fire extinguisher from the factory?
    yes, it may use valuable storage space, but, when you'll need it, you'll be glad to have one.....

    under the seat or side naman, ata,e...

    for me, ok naman ung converted spacegears and i'll choose a good quality converted delica spacegear super-select4wd super/royal exceed...4m40, reliability, or the power of 3.0v6 over the old starex...and the more bland local spacegear.pwede pang swapan ng 4m41 or ung 3.5 MIVEC-V6 ng pajero-evo!

    but......kung budget ko for a brand-new, indent ako ng starex 4wd club, manual/matic....145ps ang CRDi 2.5L,same or more power than the 4m40, at masmatipid pa!
    Last edited by alwayz_yummy; August 7th, 2006 at 05:36 PM.

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    I think all cars should come standard with fire extinguishers, not necessarily for use on the engine. Heck, I wish mine came with one.

    Quote Originally Posted by ronald_m
    Why starex have fire extinguisher from the factory?
    That's like asking why cars have seatbelts or why most cars carry a spare tire; it's simply better to be prepared, even if you claim to be the world's most careful driver.
    Last edited by Bogeyman; August 7th, 2006 at 05:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronald_m
    Why starex have fire extinguisher from the factory?
    Because it's required in Korea, AFAIK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronald_m
    Why starex have fire extinguisher from the factory?
    Because Korean law requires it to have one. It is classifed as a commercial vehicle there.

    Horsepower,
    ANZEN, First Alert, and OBX sell small fire extinguishers. ANZEN and FA are available from ACE. OBX is sold by Blade.

    I have a First Alert mounted on my rig.


    Here's the OBX:


    ANZEN is a local brand (you can imagine how local units look. hehehe).

    BTTT:

    Starex for me. The Space Gear is too austere for the price. Makes less power too due to being non-intercooled. Turbocharged only.

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    #13
    Starex

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    i dont think they are any different but im leaning towards the Starex due to its number out on the road. also cheaper and more features.

    just a tip: get the better unit you'll see out there.

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    I wonder where we can get Fire Extinguisher for SantaFe? ang liit ng size eh. May lalagyan sya pero walang kasama.

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    #16
    Ill get the space gear

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    #17
    I've owned and driven both Starex and Spacegear. Earlier models pa.

    When I bought a new van last year, Starex pa rin ang binili ko, even though its front is not that attractive, you know. It's just that CRDi wasn't available at that time, else I should have bought that variant.
    It's not Korean vs. Japanese vehicles. Hyundai has really improved a lot and is getting worldwide attention. Just my personal experience and opinion.

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    ya get a starex, had mind for 3 years now, still in perfect condition.and not to mention, its been to mindanao and back twice.

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    Starex for Me!!! Driven both.. Ride both.. just maintain it properly..

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    afaik both the starex and spacegear (at least in the earlier versions) share the same platform and engine.. the 98 up starex uses mitsubishi's 4d56 engine albeit in a more refined package, even their side mirrors are the same. This is maybe due to mitsubishi having a stake in hyundai (like ford/mazda, daewoo/GM etc). The starex being a larger version than the spacegear can be underpowered sometimes. We had two incidents of rocker arms bent in our 98 starex. But still i'd pick it over the spacegear simply by it having an auto transmission option which sadly the spacegear does not. Just my 2 cents

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