LEXUS vs. MERCEDES vs BMW

[kutangbato]

Oh yes.
Not to offend lexus owners.

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[EQAddict]

Lexus RC F or 570 please me want them both

[crosswind]

I will choose the MB

if lexus I will take the ES350 and put thule bike rack at the roof
and haul my bikes

[jut703]

A Lexus IS350 F-Sport looks more stunning than the ugly new C200, has a much better engine, and is cheaper too.

Obviously the MB badge still has more gravitas, but Lexus is holding its own as well.

A 5-series/E-Class is miles classier than a GS though.


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[jasonub]

Does Merc bm audi have a comparable model to the LFA? Porsche has but iirc some have self burning problems.

[Egan101]

^^^ Does the Audi R8 V10 or Mercedes SLS count as something to match Toyota/Lexus LFA?

The IS350F Sport did win in a C/D comparison against the 2013 BMW 335i and Cadillac ATS 3.6. More affordable yet packed with goodies.

With the coming of the new GS-F, not sure how it will fare against the super-sedans - BMW M5, Audi RS6/RS7, and Mercedes E63 AMG. Audi's S6/S7 lineup is quite formidable and are tuned just a tad softer than its RS6/RS7 brothers. The Americans have just notched up the ante in the super sedan competition with the more affordable (less than 100k USD) yet insane Dodge Charger Hellcat (707hp) and Cadillac CTS-V (640hp).

[dr. d]

changed my mind.. sorry.

[Egan101]

For something like 3M, the Lexus IS350F Sport is the best car that money can buy locally (300hp, high-revving V6 NA engine, RWD, track-ready, plush seats, creature comforts, etc). You get the luxury of a Lexus yet the performance capability similar to its German counterparts which would cost you almost 5M.

[niky]

Old thread. After 3 years do you guys still think that the lexus is an expensive totota?

LFA anyone

The only Lexii you could append that image to, in the past, were the ES, RX and the Landcru-... errh... LX.

They've updated the RX, the ES now features more differentiation from the Camry than before, and the LX... well... it's still a very posh Cruiser... ...but seeing as how VAG does the same thing with the Touareg, Q7 and Cayenne... albeit with more differentiation... that's not as big a deal, anymore.

The IS, GS and LS have always been their own cars. And reasonably good cars... just not very exciting ones in the past. Nowadays, they're up with the big boys.

[ronw123w124]

Would I buy a Lexus in favor of more established Euro brands (i.e. Mercedes Benz and BMW)? When this thread just started, my answer would be probably, but after 3 years of this thread's existence my answer now is definitely. I've had enough of these Euro cars, we bought an E90 318i in 2012 and guess what? The car literally broke down with just around 460km on it. Yes, it was fixed under BMW's 2 year warranty. But it suffered yet another electrical nightmare with just barely 2,000km on it. We got so fed up with it that we sold it at a HUGE loss just to regain our sanity. Not to mention that this was one of the worst riding cars we have ever owned (think sitting at the back of an L300 van without any other loads with the tire pressure maxed out)

Somehow I really like the current ES350, while I agree that its just a dressed up Camry, but because of that, it is more practical since some parts can be bought in Banawe or even the neighborhood auto supply. Specially for me since I try to avoid the CASA like a plague, I just let our mechanics in the office do the minor stuff like change oil, tune up, brake pads and etc. since they are competent enough.

[dr. d]

i suppose it's MB when you want heritage..
BMW when you want a breath of fresh air..
Lexus when you want reliability..

who knows what the privileged really want?

from a wigo owner.

[soul12]

i suppose it's MB when you want heritage..
BMW when you want a breath of fresh air..
Lexus when you want reliability..

who knows what the privileged really want?

from a wigo owner.

Maraming mga BMW owners before na LEXUS owners na ngayon. Bakit kaya.

[dr. d]

Maraming mga BMW owners before na LEXUS owners na ngayon. Bakit kaya.

...reliability issues? ...if not the malfunction rate, the service and spare parts' availability.. or the high cost of maintenance ... ?

i don't know.. i'm just a wigo driver..

[ronw123w124]

Maraming mga BMW owners before na LEXUS owners na ngayon. Bakit kaya.

May isang feature kasi ang BMW na wala sa Lexus, at yun ang tinatawag na sakit ng ulo!

[dr. d]

May isang feature kasi ang BMW na wala sa Lexus, at yun ang tinatawag na sakit ng ulo!

errr.. is that standard or is it on the options list?

[ronw123w124]

errr.. is that standard or is it on the options list?

In my case, it came with the car, gusto ko nga sana patanggal kaso di pwede

[dr. d]

In my case, it came with the car, gusto ko nga sana patanggal kaso di pwede

an acquaintance had a famous european car.. he suffered from headaches.
he finally sold it and bought an everest.
the headaches disappeared..

something about these europeans... allergy, maybe?

[ronw123w124]

Just like my wife's former '12 BMW 318i E90, its officially the WORST car we ever owned. Now she wants an SUV to replace that cursed car, were waiting for the 2nd gen Fort. Our family is no stranger to Euro cars although I myself go for oldschool Euros like the MB W123 and W126, since these MB's dates back from the late 70's to early 80's, it doesn't have too much electronics on board which makes them less prone to breakdowns and they come from an era when Mercedes built their cars like bank vaults.

The second Euro car nightmare that our family has endured is that of my sister's old Audi A4 in the US. It was really a nice car and nothing came close to it when it comes to handling but its been at the dealer for repairs more frequently than it is on the road, when the warranty expired my sister got rid of it at once and then got an Acura TL as a replacement, its been more than 10 years now and my sister still loves the Acura.

[machine.pistol]

My wife's former boss sold his Volvo after it gave him too much headache.

[baludoy]

^ parang ganyan din tatay ko dati. he once had an old british car he drove around town. sa sobrang dalas mag-breakdown, iyong mekaniko niya naging kabarkada na niya at eventually ginawa pa siyang ninong sa kasal niya :bwahaha: