lancer ex vs honda civic

[GTi]

Alam mo naman. Typical Honda boys


GLS M/T?????

Sorry, make that GLX M/T. My bad.

[ghosthunter]

Although it is true that the Lancer EX GLS CVT will not handle a lot of added HP. But that is talking about 200hp. Stock is 155hp. And coming from a tuning shop, even the Lancer EX GLX M/T will NOT handle 200hp.

But performance is more than just max HP figures. The handling characteristics of this car is better than most currently available on the road within the same price bracket. It's also a big plus that the car looks good and sporty even in stock form.

The ride quality (stock) is very good. Interior space is big enough.

If you plan to keep this car stock, it looks great. And even a simple mod of changing it's mags to the ones from the Lancer EX GTA (or simply opting for aftermarket 18 inch wheels) makes it look better and even improves handling as well.

[3GEMS]

i'll get civic kasi yun yung tinitibok ng puso kasi for me getting civic now is lesser headache dami ng surplus parts.... unless marami kang mula para sa reapair and upgrade sa EX...pag sa civic kasi kahit stock ng 1.8s, complete na maporma na( what i mean parang wala m=ng kulang)..

[GTi]

Although it is true that the Lancer EX GLS CVT will not handle a lot of added HP. But that is talking about 200hp. Stock is 155hp. And coming from a tuning shop, even the Lancer EX GLX M/T will NOT handle 200hp.

But performance is more than just max HP figures. The handling characteristics of this car is better than most currently available on the road within the same price bracket. It's also a big plus that the car looks good and sporty even in stock form.

The ride quality (stock) is very good. Interior space is big enough.

If you plan to keep this car stock, it looks great. And even a simple mod of changing it's mags to the ones from the Lancer EX GTA (or simply opting for aftermarket 18 inch wheels) makes it look better and even improves handling as well.

I'd always figured it was only because of the CVT that Speedlab limited all their tuned Lancer EX's to 185whp. Why could the FD's go way north of 200whp when tuned and the Lancer EX M/T cannot?

[Titleist983k]

Wow didn't realize it's taboo here to talk about resale value and will label you as a Honda boy, lol. I will rest my case then. FYI, not everybody can take the blow of a severely depreciated vehicle and the Lancer is one of the models that traditionally suffers from it.

[ghosthunter]

Wow didn't realize it's taboo here to talk about resale value and will label you as a Honda boy, lol. I will rest my case then. FYI, not everybody can take the blow of a severely depreciated vehicle and the Lancer is one of the models that traditionally suffers from it.

Simply put, if we are just going to use RESALE VALUE as the end of all car buying decisions, we will all be buying boring cars like the Corolla.

There are more things beyond the car's resale value that makes a car a good buy. And who knows, a current car will have better future resale value because it is a great car to own today.

[oliver1013]

A happy owner will maintain his car well, sometimes pamper it to the point of insanity. Compared to an owner who just bought it because of resale value( with a wala lang attitude). In the end sino mas maganda resale value, yung inalagaan ng todo(kahit supposedly mababa resale value) o yung (supposedly mataas resale value pero ginamit gamit lang).

My point? Buy a car that will put a smile on your face everytime you drive it or even just look at it in your garage. Priceless yan.

This is true kahit sa mga GFs natin diba yung mas mahal natin mas ginagastosan natin compared sa FUBU lang.

Tsaka proven na ba na mas mababa ang resale ng Lancer EX sa Civic? Parang nung last time na nag browse ako parang pareho lang same year model ang EX compared with Civic and Altis. Kung meron mang mas mataas na civic lamang lang ng mga 50k, minsan tinatawad lang yun tapos baka depende pa sa kondisyon.

[Titleist983k]

Simply put, if we are just going to use RESALE VALUE as the end of all car buying decisions, we will all be buying boring cars like the Corolla.

There are more things beyond the car's resale value that makes a car a good buy. And who knows, a current car will have better future resale value because it is a great car to own today.

By that you are saying that all cars with higher resale values are boring. Why can't you have a car that is not boring and has excellent resale value?

[Titleist983k]

A happy owner will maintain his car well, sometimes pamper it to the point of insanity. Compared to an owner who just bought it because of resale value( with a wala lang attitude). In the end sino mas maganda resale value, yung inalagaan ng todo(kahit supposedly mababa resale value) o yung (supposedly mataas resale value pero ginamit gamit lang).

My point? Buy a car that will put a smile on your face everytime you drive it or even just look at it in your garage. Priceless yan.

This is true kahit sa mga GFs natin diba yung mas mahal natin mas ginagastosan natin compared sa FUBU lang.

Tsaka proven na ba na mas mababa ang resale ng Lancer EX sa Civic? Parang nung last time na nag browse ako parang pareho lang same year model ang EX compared with Civic and Altis. Kung meron mang mas mataas na civic lamang lang ng mga 50k, minsan tinatawad lang yun tapos baka depende pa sa kondisyon.

I did that with the X-Trail back in 2003 until I sold it in 2009 and learned I could not even get a subcompact to replace it. But yeah, I agree that I enjoyed the vehicle for 6 years.

[dr. d]

but what about maintenance costs? do boring cars cost less to maintain and exciting cars cost more to maintain?

[ghosthunter]

but what about maintenance costs? do boring cars cost less to maintain and exciting cars cost more to maintain?

Nope. If you can term the Lancer EX as an "exciting car", it just costs about the same to maintain.

[renzo_d10]

I did that with the X-Trail back in 2003 until I sold it in 2009 and learned I could not even get a subcompact to replace it. But yeah, I agree that I enjoyed the vehicle for 6 years.

So, why did you pick the vehicle which in time will have a lower resale value than its counterpart (CRV) ?

They both look good. And somehow offer similar features.

[FROZENICE]

Excuse me for butting in...

I have no bad cup of tea for the "resale value" actually it should be included in your list before buying your car...
but then, why are we thinking "resale" while in the first place we/I on a stage of looking for a car to buy???

Its like, dont buy a gun if you cant even load it with ammos... (Dont buy expensive car if considering maintenance costs)
Shoot to kill first then explain, better to end up behind bars than 6 feet below..

my point is.. Buy the car what you want and what makes you happy and what car
looks good from eyes not from anyone's eye.

Me, i own an altis and yes i enjoyed it lagi kong sinasabi "ang pogi tlaga" and really put a smile on my face
na kahit sinasabi nila ginagamit na din pang taxi i dont care... But now heart is beating everytime i see the Mitsu
lancer GTA and hopefully il be getting my hands on it days from now.

Buy the thing that you want and what you think that looks good from your end.

[mda]

Excuse me for butting in...

I have no bad cup of tea for the "resale value" actually it should be included in your list before buying your car...
but then, why are we thinking "resale" while in the first place we/I on a stage of looking for a car to buy???

Its like, dont buy a gun if you cant even load it with ammos... (Dont buy expensive car if considering maintenance costs)
Shoot to kill first then explain, better to end up behind bars than 6 feet below..

my point is.. Buy the car what you want and what makes you happy and what car
looks good from eyes not from anyone's eye.

Me, i own an altis and yes i enjoyed it lagi kong sinasabi "ang pogi tlaga" and really put a smile on my face
na kahit sinasabi nila ginagamit na din pang taxi i dont care... But now heart is beating everytime i see the Mitsu
lancer GTA and hopefully il be getting my hands on it days from now.

Buy the thing that you want and what you think that looks good from your end.

Semi-thread resurrection but:

Practicality sir.

And just that.

If you are thinking of buying a car and intending to keep it forever, then go ahead and buy whatever your heart wants.

If you intend to sell it in X years and actually want to replace it with something with the minimum cash-out, then you have to think forward.

Tingin ko hindi tama yung analogy mo with the gun. Resale is actually RESIDUAL VALUE/SCRAP VALUE and not MAINTENANCE COSTS/COST OF OPERATION. If you wanted to use RESIDUAL VALUE using your gun analogy, then you should not be talking not about the bullets (w/c equate to maintenance/fuel) but the remaining value of the gun's metallic/other parts (assuming the gun is no longer useful for the purpose for which it was bought) when it is time to be replaced.

In my opinion, it is really the car itself that should do the talking when making a purchase decision, but in a world where money does not grow off trees, it pays a to be a little forward thinking. I am not saying that those who buy cars with low resale value are idiots. It just means that they value other aspects of the car much more so over the resale.

In the end, what do you value more?

[ghosthunter]

Semi-thread resurrection but:

Practicality sir.

And just that.

If you are thinking of buying a car and intending to keep it forever, then go ahead and buy whatever your heart wants.

If you intend to sell it in X years and actually want to replace it with something with the minimum cash-out, then you have to think forward.

Tingin ko hindi tama yung analogy mo with the gun. Resale is actually RESIDUAL VALUE/SCRAP VALUE and not MAINTENANCE COSTS/COST OF OPERATION. If you wanted to use RESIDUAL VALUE using your gun analogy, then you should not be talking not about the bullets (w/c equate to maintenance/fuel) but the remaining value of the gun's metallic/other parts (assuming the gun no longer works) when it is time to be replaced.

In my opinion, it is really the car itself that should do the talking when making a purchase decision, but in a world where money does not grow off trees, it pays a to be a little forward thinking. I am not saying those who buy cars with low resale value are idiots. It just means that they value other aspects of the car much more so over the resale.

Makes sense?

Unless you have a crystal ball that would give you the resale value of the car in X years or plan to sell the car in under 4 years, knowing the resale value might have a point.

But as with most filipinos who keep their cars for eight years or more, the re-sale value has become less important.

[mda]

Yup, tama naman sir GH.

It's faaaaar from exact science, but I don't think it's completely abstract either.

Example: Between the Sentra 200 and the Lancer EX 2.0 / Corolla Altis 2.0 / Civic FD 2.0, I have a strong gut feeling I know which car will be ranked at the bottom of the resale pack in 5-10 years.

[ghosthunter]

Yup, tama naman sir GH.

It's no exact science, but I don't think it's completely abstract either.

Example: Between the Sentra 200 and the Lancer EX 2.0 / Corolla Altis 2.0 / Civic FD 2.0, I have a strong gut feeling I know which car will be ranked at the bottom of the resale pack in 5-10 years.

Even taking the Sentra 200, the resale price depreciation is standard based on the original retail value of each car. So unless a certain car has proven to be a major lemon for some reason, we shouldn't see any major drop in re-sale values over the years of ownership, hence knowing which car has the "best" resale value isn't that important when buying a new car.

[Noel Salisipan]

I always think of the resale value and how easy it is to sell the car when I want to replace it...

I bought an x-trail 250x for 1.5m in 2003 before the price dropped to 1.3m the same year and was only able to sell it for 550k 4 years later. Resale value is very important. I cannot over emphasize it

Parang conflict statement dito regarding sa importance ng resale value, or really we cannot predict the resale value sa future kung kailan gusto na nating ibenta yung car na gusto natin nung mga panahon na binili natin s'ya?!

[Noel Salisipan]

Kung brand new ang bibilhin e bakit resale value ang importante?

E di sana, bumili na lang ng second hand. Sigurado dito, you will save a lot of money!

The fact na kayang bumili ng brandnew car, siguro naman yung "purpose" ang naging basehan at hindi yung pagdispatsya.

BTT, mas gusto ko Lancer dahil sa price, design, technology, at mas kampante na ko sa mitsubishi this time.

[ghosthunter]

Parang conflict statement dito regarding sa importance ng resale value, or really we cannot predict the resale value sa future kung kailan gusto na nating ibenta yung car na gusto natin nung mga panahon na binili natin s'ya?!

exactly. all we can use is the standard car value depreciation which is based on the car's original purchase price and how old the car has been since it was purchased new.