Kia Sedona vs. Ford Everest

[altec]

My friend's everest barely gets 5km/liter. With biodiesel and some additive that he added, I recall him saying he has brought this up to around 5.5km/liter. The Sedona diesel, however, should give you 6km/liter. Mine gets 6-7.5km/liter depending on the traffic. Remember, the heavy body weight of the sedona has a significant effect on its fuel economy, especially in heavy traffic. There is no local sedona that is CRDI. Any crdi is a surplus import, and still called a carnival. The gas variant? I heard barely gets 5km/liter.

Take note the sedona is all coil suspension. While the everest uses rear leaf springs, thus explaining the wide disparity in ride performance. In terms of power, they are both powerful (both are non crdi diesels). The everest looks much bigger than the sedona, but the sedona is roomier and more comfortable. Parts are cheaper for Kia than with Ford. But durability may be to Ford's advantage. Kia quality, however, has gone up significantly in recent years, though.

The diesel noncrdi sedona engine is more of a smoke belcher than the ford everest. But this is easily offset with biodiesel and a few special driving procedures which is not that big a hassle.

Sedona is more modern looking. Everest still looks like a ranger with a rear camper shell. But then, looks is in the eyes of the beholder.

[mbt]

keep in mind that it's tough to directly compare fuel economy figures of two different vehicles from two different owners using the vehicles in two different ways.

[altec]

keep in mind that it's tough to directly compare fuel economy figures of two different vehicles from two different owners using the vehicles in two different ways.

My friend used to own a local carnival and told me he got around 6+km/liter with his carnival. We keep in constant touch comparing our fuel economy because of biodiesel usage. But during that time of the carnival, wala pang biodiesel.

On my own, I own a local diesel sedona and I get an average of 6.3-7km/liter, which includes around 30 minutes idling every lunch time as my kids eat in the car during lunch break and since my sedona comes with a dvd player, ayun, naka aircon while eating. I've heard other sedona users getting higher than my fuel economy, but I also heard someone saying he gets below 6km/liter.

[ortonko]

For me safety of my family first over comfort, therefore I have chosen FORD EVEREST. I believe and for my own opinion, safety comes first and comfort will follow accordingly. If your family feels safer while riding your car, then they must be feel comfortably as well!

[victory]

Hi,
I own a carnival 2000 deisel MT. It consumes 7 kms to a liter. Ok mag drive nito .hindi ka mukhang driver.

Ok na ok ang carnival.. medyo mababa lang ang resale value. pero sa ride, safety and comfort ok ang carnival.. what more with the improved sedona..

[rodski]

Hello Guys,

I own a 2001 carnival manual. I get 10 to 11km per li. Las Pinas to Alabang most of the time ang biyahe. One full tank will last me one month.

Ride comfort and amenities the best. DVD 7 seater leather oks na oks. This is the best decision I did when I bought this car. My Family loves this car especially on long drives to bicol, baguio, subic, batangas.

All you have to do is TLC it and it will serve you well.

Rodski

[altec]

For me safety of my family first over comfort, therefore I have chosen FORD EVEREST. I believe and for my own opinion, safety comes first and comfort will follow accordingly. If your family feels safer while riding your car, then they must be feel comfortably as well!

Ortonko, the sedona's front and rear bumper has a solid steel bar underneath. The bumpers are not hollow, mind you. My sedona rear bumper once got bumped by a pajero with those extended grill type bars, pumasok yung grill ng pajero and damaging its hood and grill, pero yung sedona only had a slight dent on the bumper plus nayupi yung tailgate, but that was due to the extended bars that protruded. Of course, the Everest rides high, and any car that meets a high riding vehicle loses out in a collision. The sedona comes with a 5 star crash rating score from those U.S. independent test.

[altec]

Engine: Everest- 2.5Liter SOHC 12V, Sedona 2.9Liter DOHC 16V
HP: Everest- 110hp/3,500 rpm Sedona - 135hp/3,800 rpm
Torque: Everest- 268nm/2000rpm Sedona - 315nm/2000 rpm

Length: Ev- 4958 Sed- 4930
Width: Ev- 1805 Sed- 1895
Height: Ev- 1835 Sed- 1730
Wheelbase: Ev- 2860 Sed- 2910
Front Suspension: same
Rear suspension: Ev- semi elliptical leaf springs Sed- 5 link system
Everest: RWD Sedona: FWD

[armanski]

Engine: Everest- 2.5Liter SOHC 12V, Sedona 2.9Liter DOHC 16V
HP: Everest- 110hp/3,500 rpm Sedona - 135hp/3,800 rpm
Torque: Everest- 268nm/2000rpm Sedona - 315nm/2000 rpm

Sir Altec,

Actually what is available now with Sedona is the V6 GAS engine. Per its specification, 173hp*6500rpm. Is this true?

Also seen the comparison ng LxWxH, and overall mukhang lamang ang Sedona reason why it is spacious inside.

[mikey177]

According to the Kia web site, the HP for the V6 gas Sedona is 150*5,600 rpm, so I don't know how true the figure you stated is. The link to the Sedona's specs is http://www.kiamotors.com/Common/html...ival/spec.html

Also, the US agency that did the crash safety testing on the Sedona was the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Here is the link for the tests they did on the 2005 model Sedona: http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/3349.html

[altec]

I dont know what the local gas sedona's engine displacement is. But whatever it is, it is expected to be a gas guzzler. Aside from what was mentioned by Mikey, in the U.S., the sedona comes with a v6 3.5Liter 195hp vehicle. As per an article in a u.s. magazine which I subscribe to, its October 2003 issue shows fuel economy at 10mpg city, and 25mpg highway. I don't know the exact conversion of miles to kilometer, 1.6km/mile ba yun? Assuming tama ito, it means 4km/liter! And take note, in actual driving conditions, the realistic fuel economy is lower than what is declared. Motioncars website even claims the local sedona gas version uses only a 2.5liter engine with 110hp! Now that's underpowered. And that's the same displacement on mikey's mentioned website.

[armanski]

sa tingin mo nga underpowered siya? some say (sa thread ng sedona) na they do find the power of sedonas satisfying. moreso kung gas na siguro ang gamit.

for everest, di ba comfy ang ride na yon? will try to test drive one this weekend to see and compare.

[mikey177]

some say (sa thread ng sedona) na they do find the power of sedonas satisfying. moreso kung gas na siguro ang gamit.

Not necessarily, sir. Malakas ang hatak ng Sedona na 2.9 turbodiesel, pero hindi ko masabi kung kaya ng 2.5 V6 gas engine Sedona na tapatan ang performance ng diesel, kasi nga mabigat ang kaha ng Sedona. I prefer the diesel to the gas variant of the Sedona for this reason.

Kung makakapaghintay ka hanggang December, ang balita ay lalabas na yung 2006 model ng Sedona na CRDi diesel. Yun ang magandang abangan

[M]

the sedona is by far more comfortable when compared to the everest. it's a good van for a family (we're only usually 5, but we take the kia out most of the time).

for the more outdoorsey type of family though, the everest could be it. although i hear that leg room for the third row is a bit dinky.

[M]

Not necessarily, sir. Malakas ang hatak ng Sedona na 2.9 turbodiesel, pero hindi ko masabi kung kaya ng 2.5 V6 gas engine Sedona na tapatan ang performance ng diesel, kasi nga mabigat ang kaha ng Sedona. I prefer the diesel to the gas variant of the Sedona for this reason.

Kung makakapaghintay ka hanggang December, ang balita ay lalabas na yung 2006 model ng Sedona na CRDi diesel. Yun ang magandang abangan

the diesel probably has more pulling power than the V6, but definitely on a long stretch of road like the SLEX, the V6 will be a more satisfying drive. we own a V6 variant and it can handle load pretty well, although, you do have to mash the gas pedal when fully loaded with 7 pax. 5 or less and that thing can haul ass. don't expect it to win any stoplight races with cars though, it's a tad slow in picking up speed with, as mentioned, that heavy body, but it's not a slouch against other vans like the hi-ace or urvan.

baka nga pala meron gusto bumili, 350k po namin binebenta.

[leolop]

i'd be wary of the RS model not because of the engine, but because i don't think it has ABS. with a big car like that and your whole family inside, you don't want to miss out on such an important feature in case you need it. besides RS is the low-end variant.

you may want to consider a brand new carnival 2 import. there are importers of these (info supplied via pm)

the gray market model has more features than the LS variant of th Sedona (the high end) like aircon micro filter, climate control, sunroof, better upholstery and carpetting AND a 2.9l DIESEL CRDI engine. someone once hit about 20km/l on the tarlac to pangasinan run. there are some non-useful features like a heater and a hands free phone feature that we can't get to work.

the problem is that it doesn't come with much of a warranty. anyway, i'm recommending you should at least take a look. good luck!

[iq0]

I'm a V6 owner. Bought it Sept 2005. I like the ride. Smooth. Tahimik ang makina. Comfortable captain's chairs. Good looking too. I got the m/t version. Downside, malakas sa gas. I can get only up to 6km/L mixed city/higway driving, light traffic. Minsan less pa. Then I had a problem with the engine. Napansin ko ang lakas umubos ng coolant. Dinala ko sa casa, kelangan daw palitan ng overhauling gaskets. So ibinaba ang makina. Parang overhaul na raw ang ginawa. Di pa rin nawala ang problema. Nag-demand ako na palitan ang makina. Pinalitan ang engine block and everything inside. Itinira ang cylinder head. Yun, mukhang naayos na. Nakakwentuhan ko yung isang mekaniko mukhang me mga v6 daw na me problemang ganun. Di lang daw ang unit ko ang me ganun na problema. Buti daw ako marunong tumingin. Kasi yung nakita daw nilang isa, paubos na ang coolant, di pa nagrereklamo. The good thing about this is Kia acknowledges this as a problem at di naman ako nahirapan nung humingi ako ng change of engine. Did not pay a single centavo. Aside from that, have not had any other problem. Oh, 1. I had to change the A/C micro filter. Napansin ko kasi mahina na ang labas ng hangin sa front blowers. I turned out sobrang dumi na ng filter.

So far yun ang experience ko sa sedona v6. But don't get me wrong. I still love it. It's actually an RS. But I made every effort to make it look like an LS. I added an Audiovox DVD player with an overhead lcd plus 1 in front. Changed the steel wheels to mags. Had Kelseat wrap leathers on the steering wheel and the M/T shifter. Nagpa-customize na lang ako ng leatherette seat covers. Ang laki ng diprensya sa cost pag leather talaga eh. Bought those nice blue round Kia logos and stuck them on the back and front and on the mags. My kids love the reclining captain's seats with individual arm rests.

Cheers!

[jezreel]

Sa everest ako, matibay ang pangilalim.

[theveed]

Yung Carnival nina Blackmagic grabe sa bilis hehe.

[Mamar]

I've driven both cars and all i can say iba talaga ung sedona! Ang sarap ng ride sobrang smooth hinde mo nararamdamn ung mga lubak kahit naka 18" 235/50/r18 na mags and tires pa ung sedona na ginagamit ko at ang lakas pa ng hatak nabatajbo ko na ung sedona namin ng 180 sa star tollway, hinde umuubra ung ibang mga nakaksabay kong mga sasakyan! Matibay din sya 03 model ung sedona namin so 3yrs ba at 90,000kms na at wala pa namang ganong naging problema except for the allternator which was replaced by casa for free!