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    Alin sa 2 ang pipiliin nyo?

    2.9li CRDI vs 2.5li D4D
    8 seater vs 7 seater
    FF vs FR

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    Carnival. I believe they're on the same price range?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiRbossR View Post
    Carnival. I believe they're on the same price range?
    i think mas mahal yung Carnival since it's a bigger car. Kia Carens ata ang nasa price range ng Innova.

    *TS - Ok ang Carnival being the bigger and more powerful car (and more expensive). If hindi naman problema budget then go for it.

    If you really don't need the extra space and concern mo is fuel economy, then mag Innova ka na.

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    Carnival hands down. Lamang in space, comfort, power and safety ratings.

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    I rode a Carnival LWB EX (the one with the electronic sliding doors and hatch). Entire round trip to Tagaytay from 9:45 am to 4:00 pm. Mileage of vehicle: 33,xxx kms. Purchased: 2009. Suspension was already shot (kalampag) over even the smallest pot hole. Aircon at the back was making a really loud noise (like a jet engine). Overall quality and appearance of interior plastics are terrible. Really cheap plastics inside. Something not out of place in a China car. The electronic sliding doors and hatch was really terrible bec. there was some kind of delay in the system. Unwary users would press the button and the system would not respond immediately so they end up pressing it multiple times, making it even more unresponsive. This vehicle even started belching black smoke (evident with every depress of the accelerator) even when it was only a few weeks old.

    If I were to make a sweeping verdict on Korean designed and manufactured vehicles based on this vehicle alone, then I would say Korean manufacturers have improved alot but they still cannot match the Japanese in terms of build quality. Maybe in the coming years.

    The Innova might be engineered and priced for the developing countries (or "third world" for that troll of a ford fiesta fanboy) but I still like it better overall than the Carnival. The Carnival can definitely haul more things and people, if we are talking about the LWB.

    PS: We also own a 2011 Innova E M/T

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    you will never go wrong with an Innova.

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    That's odd. Isolated case lang kaya yan? Could it be that you got a lemon unit? Naayos ba under warranty

    I'd get the Carnival. The ride is certainly of a much higher class, performance is much better (though gas mileage may not be as good) than the Innova. And its a true minivan, and not a pickup made to do minivan duties so the interior space is much more abundant being of a unibody construction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    (or "third world" for that troll of a ford fiesta fanboy)
    Kilala ko na Sorry OT

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    Innova G because that's what I bought. Sir ang Innova CRdi din. At 8 seater din. actually kaya pa nga 10 kung medium size built ang katawan ng pasahero. Toyota cars are know for their durability. At the same time mura pa ang parts and are readily available. I owned a 98 Revo for ten years. Ang pinalitan ko lang consumables like tires, compressor...sa engine wala pa nagalaw. kahit shocks hindi ako nagpalit. I just had to let go of it because it's a guzzler and opted for a Innova G Dsl AT.

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    My Tito's only problem so far with his 25,000kms old LWB 09 Carnival is the shorter battery life, probably due to the power lift gate and doors. After less than 2 years he had to get a new battery already.

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    I must confess I'm quite partial to Toyota because of the reliability, but the Carnival is also a good vehicle. If you can get a 2.2L e-VGT, get it...

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    Medyo nabibitin ako sa SWB. Mas ok sana kung LWB.

    Pero siyempre, Carnival > Innova G. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    My Tito's only problem so far with his 25,000kms old LWB 09 Carnival is the shorter battery life, probably due to the power lift gate and doors. After less than 2 years he had to get a new battery already.
    Bulok ang rocket battery.. Yung 2nd rocket battery ko less than two years din.. Better get another brand.. Pero huwag motolite kasi yung amp rating nya mababa.. kailangan 100amps or greater... Ako naka bili ng battery, MAGIC ang brand name.. 115 amps ang rating.

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    saw the kia carnival swb kanina sa alabang. malaki. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by meledson View Post
    saw the kia carnival swb kanina sa alabang. malaki. :D
    Basically ang length lang naman ang pagkakaiba ng SWB and LWB Carnival. And the LWB Carnival is a full size minivan.So have you decided on which one you are getting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imperialv View Post
    Bulok ang rocket battery.. Yung 2nd rocket battery ko less than two years din.. Better get another brand.. Pero huwag motolite kasi yung amp rating nya mababa.. kailangan 100amps or greater... Ako naka bili ng battery, MAGIC ang brand name.. 115 amps ang rating.
    Yup, and the advice to keep the battery life longer with the electric doors is to open and close it with the engine running as much as possible, and if you're leaving the door open for an extended period, override it (not sure how this is done) to prolong the motor life as well.

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    Usually Carens ang kinukumpara sa Innova. But I'll go with Carnival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Usually Carens ang kinukumpara sa Innova. But I'll go with Carnival.
    internal space, mas maluwag ang innova for me. lalo na sa 3rd row. Type ng wife ko ang M/T na Carens. kaso sabi ko parang naka avanza lang basically. Mag innova na lang kaysa sa carens.

    Looking at the SWB na Carnival. M/T pa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    Yup, and the advice to keep the battery life longer with the electric doors is to open and close it with the engine running as much as possible, and if you're leaving the door open for an extended period, override it (not sure how this is done) to prolong the motor life as well.
    you need to click the power off.. dun sa taas ng console natin.

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    Malaki po ba talaga difference ng fuel consumption ng innova at carnival? May application po kami sa carnival pero kubf magastos talaga baka umatras kami.

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