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    #21
    Kaya mo naman yung Grandis, so get the better car para wala ng what ifs. :D

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    #22
    for 1.5M, i'd rather get a CRDi VGT 2007 Santa Fe SUV

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    #23
    May nakita akonf Innove na ni lowered, palit mags, then spoilers, nag mukhang Previa, ganda din. All those add ons should still leave the price under 1M.

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    for 1.5M, i'd rather get a CRDi VGT 2007 Santa Fe SUV
    Off-topic: Bwahaha... if we're going to just dream... I'd get a Westfield (for play) and sacrifice on my daily ride so that I can afford it... with the change, I'd get a Getz...


    A turbodiesel Getz... :evil:

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    While the Grandis is an expensive vehicle, it at least offers comfort and convenience commesurate to its price.

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    #25
    mcmc,
    I too have been contemplating a van. I have looked at the Fortuner, Innova, Previa, Venture, Starex as well as the Grandis. Am looking at replacing our 5 year old 7-seater 2001 Carnival. Since my wife drives the van most of the time, one consideration I have is comfort and ease in driving. In other words, a mom-friendly vehicle.

    The Grandis has car like qualities--easy to drive, lower ground clearance, not as big as the Starex or the Venture therefore easier to park and turn. The interior is far better than the Innova and the seats thicker and more luxurious. Aesthetically it also looks better than the Innova or Starex (a matter of personal taste). The seats of the Grandis can also be re-configured more easily than the Innova and provides more options. Initially, I liked the Fortuner because of its looks, but the hard ride and the single aircon vent at the back meant it wasn't really designed as a people mover. My wife didn't like the Fortuner too because of the height. It would be difficult for ladies to climb up or down the Fortuner, especially in a dress!

    The Previa at PHP 2.1M is too expensive for me. I found the the Starex too big and with a rough drive. The Venture had too many horror stories and is considered a maintenance money pit. Spacewise, the Starex and Venture had the most room.

    Yes, the Grandis is definitely more expensive than the Innova because there is more comfort and luxury. On the downside, since the Grandis is not a popular car, I believe it will experience faster depreciation. A 2nd hand Grandis may even be priced higher than a brand new Innova.
    Because of it's higher sticker price, insurance will be higher as well.

    If you want to go from point A to point B, the Innova is a practical choice. It is functional and affordable. If you want more comfort, more refinement, more options, the Grandis is a good choice. In most car reviews I've read, the Grandis gets favorable reviews and is compared to the Odyssey(Asian version). One concern I have with the Grandis is that the spare is a half sized tire and is designed to be used only as a spare. I believe this was done to save boot space.

    I hope this helps.

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    #26
    The temporary spare can be used up to 90kph for 90kms even if the vehicle is fully laden, AFAIK.

    Siguro naman may vulcanizing shop na within a 90km drive.

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    #27
    i believe the grandis' stock tires and rims are the same as the stock ng outlander...so if you get a flat, look for any passing outlanders.

    and vice-versa. pero given na both are rare cars on the road...

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    #28
    *Niky; off topic indeed. LOL.

    but seriously, for that amount of money, Grandis is NOT a good deal. pound-for-pound, SFe CRDi is better. It runs on cheaper fuel too.

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    #29
    practicality dictates the innova V D4D. but if you can spare some cash, satisfaction will come from the grandis. i haven't ridden in one, but interior amenities of the grandis are great. third row legroom is decent even with the 2nd row pulled back and the 2.4L MIVEC is a real teaser.

    but if the santa fe is also in the 1.5M price range and you won't really be needing 7 seats, i'd get that instead.

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    #30
    Well, consider that the Santa Fe's third row seats aren't much worse than the Fortuner's, it's not that space-limited... still wouldn't make my friends ride there... ...but I do like the Santa Fe... it's a true competitor to the RAV4, and much more sophisticated than the pick-up based SUVs it's priced against.

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    #31
    Guys, stick to Innova and Grandis please. Thanks

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    #32
    hi folks! well, we made up our mind, we're going for the innova V (in fact, we're on our way out to pick it up sa dealership). thanks for all the input. i'm very happy with our choice (and mind you, we did scour a number a dealerships last week - honda, hyundai, even isuzu) trying to look for a better alternative, but nothing came close to the innova in terms of value/features for money.

    I did come close to a grandis, but sadly hindi po ako masyadong na-impress sa exterior. mga 5 pogi points lang sya IMO lamang sa innova (again, my opinion lang po). kung sa interior naman, since i have 2 young kids (boys) siguro ok na rin na di ganun ka-luxurious yung leather seats at baka himatayin kami pag nagkaron ng scratch or rip (he-he)... so i think the innova will serve us well for a number of years, and hopefully by the time we're ready to upgrade to the next level, mataas pa rin resale value :-)

    thanks again!

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    #33
    Ok, Congrats! We wish you well and that you'll never be hounded by the D-4D defect in case you got the diesel one. :D
    Last edited by Horsepower; November 29th, 2006 at 06:30 PM.

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    #34
    ^Good choice! You can never go wrong with the Innova. I hope you got the one with the vvti engine instead of the D4-D because of the latter's unresolved problems.

    The material used for the leather upholstery is not that good bec. it feels very stiff which is actually good for you bec. it would be tough enough for your kids not to rip out. :D

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    #35
    Congrats, as most of us said before, you really can't go wrong with an Innova for your needs

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    #36
    Congrats! Enjoy!

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    #37
    mcmc,
    Enjoy the smell(and ride) of your brand new Innova!

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    #38
    congrats mcmc!!! innova is good and worth the money you paid for. just my two cents, kung may extra money ako and papiliin dalawa, i'll choose Grandis... but again, kanya-kanya tayo ng POV.

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    #39
    Good luck with your purchase, and if you get the diesel, remember to follow your maintenance schedule and cool-down time religiously, and stick to the "sure" gas stations to avoid any problems.

    Wise choice... and the change you get from the purchase will pay for a lot of home improvements.

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    #40
    I didn't realize it would take me this long but I decided to get the Grandis. I almost bought the Innova. I drove an Innova Diesel A/T on a road trip and it handled well and was actually fast and responsive. But the Grandis has a smoother ride, and is more maneuverable. The discount given was quite significant too, leaving a PHP 225K difference between the published price of the Innova V and the discounted price I paid for the Grandis. The Innova V is around 1.1M for the diesel version. Ang bilis ng takbo ng Grandis and the sportronic feature is a pleasant surprise. The stereo could have been better though. Overall, based on riding comfort, driving ease, space and style, the price difference is acceptable but only because of the heavy discount.

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