Innova e dsl AT or Mu-x rz4e AT

[rdgyap]

For me, it is a matter of principle.

Matino usapan... the agent had all the time on their end to check stocks before you signed.

And for whatever reason, after na magpirmahan, dp... bigla sasabihin wala na stock and kelangan dagdagan dp... tapos "walang pagbabago sa amort". I call BS and it's mainly a commission thing.

Kung ganyan nga kausap yan na hindi tumutupad sa usapan na malinaw, mahirap na. Wag na lang. Kung pwede, sa ibang dealer or agent maybe? Baka pwede mo complain sa upper management na lang, cc copy Toyota Philippines na "anu itong pinagsasabi ng agent ninyo na wala na stocks yung sale item only after kami nagkasundu and magdp?"

EDIT: And tingnan mo, magically, bumaba malapit sa usapan ninyo yung dp na hinihingi niya ngayon for a "newer model".

I call BS na talaga. Ayaw ko na siya kausapin kung ganun lang. Mag cocomplain pa ako talaga via email para black and white lahat, both to the local dealer and Toyota Philippines.

Isama pa mga screenshots ng SMS etc.

This behavior should not be tolerated.

Yeah it sounds like she wants bigger commision. But we haven't paid dp yet, we just reserved for 5k. I can refund 5k anytime. Besides, CR would reflect 2020 model. Hmm, should I demand 71k dp for the 2020 model?

[GTi]

Yeah it sounds like she wants bigger commision. But we haven't paid dp yet, we just reserved for 5k. I can refund 5k anytime. Besides, CR would reflect 2020 model. Hmm, should I demand 71k dp for the 2020 model?

What about more freebies? [emoji16]

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[rdgyap]

What about more freebies? [emoji16]

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I haven't thought about this! this makes me feel really newb when it comes to deals like this. thanks though, ill try to squeeze this in

[17Sphynx17]

I haven't thought about this! this makes me feel really newb when it comes to deals like this. thanks though, ill try to squeeze this in

Unless ang makuha mo is VKool, 3M or equivalent (kahit OEM) na UV Resistant Tints, I don't think the freebies would matter kasi payong lang yan at keychain. haha! Magkano lang yun, nalugi ka pa sa 5k mo.

EDIT:

Madalas kasi kung may concern ako dinadaan ko na sa email para "black and white". Wala ako tiwala sa sasabihin recorded ang convo kasi madali lang nila sabihin walang narecord.
Kung may complaint ako sa Skycable, PLDT at nung nagkaissue service ko with Mitsubishi and Nissan before, email lahat. Tawag lang to inform may concern sa 2 service centers pero email pa din for records purposes. Ayaw ko verbal lahat kasi madami pwedeng itanggi ang kabila.

Iwas na ako sa ganyan.

Both sa Skycable and PLDT nakakuha na ako refund since may time stamps ang emails =).

Sa MMPC and Nissan naman, may call back from head office within 24 hours after I sent my email to ask what happened and umaandar naman yung concern. Sila na kumausap sa dealer/service center to address my concern and sinend na lang sa akin is resolution. =)

[rdgyap]

Unless ang makuha mo is VKool, 3M or equivalent (kahit OEM) na UV Resistant Tints, I don't think the freebies would matter kasi payong lang yan at keychain. haha! Magkano lang yun, nalugi ka pa sa 5k mo.

EDIT:

Madalas kasi kung may concern ako dinadaan ko na sa email para "black and white". Wala ako tiwala sa sasabihin recorded ang convo kasi madali lang nila sabihin walang narecord.
Kung may complaint ako sa Skycable, PLDT at nung nagkaissue service ko with Mitsubishi and Nissan before, email lahat. Tawag lang to inform may concern sa 2 service centers pero email pa din for records purposes. Ayaw ko verbal lahat kasi madami pwedeng itanggi ang kabila.

Iwas na ako sa ganyan.

Both sa Skycable and PLDT nakakuha na ako refund since may time stamps ang emails =).

Sa MMPC and Nissan naman, may call back from head office within 24 hours after I sent my email to ask what happened and umaandar naman yung concern. Sila na kumausap sa dealer/service center to address my concern and sinend na lang sa akin is resolution. =)

I like your principle when it comes to complaints. I, too, do this once in a while depending on the gravity of situation. Service (in general) in ph will be a whole lot better when all of pinoys think like us. I usually demand compensation from companies whenever i complain (bad service, bad product, loss of time etc). Problem is, Filipinos are very TOLERANT. In this case with toyota though, I felt a bit as if im being hustled, that is why I asked for help. Thanks for the inputs, had i not sought for help, i might have agreed on the 92800 deal.

[ray_noel]

Yeah it sounds like she wants bigger commision. But we haven't paid dp yet, we just reserved for 5k. I can refund 5k anytime. Besides, CR would reflect 2020 model. Hmm, should I demand 71k dp for the 2020 model?

Is she hot? [emoji1787]

You can always talk to the agent and settle the discrepancy before you call it quits and go to other casa...


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[rdgyap]

Is she hot? [emoji1787]

You can always talk to the agent and settle the discrepancy before you call it quits and go to other casa...


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We're actually fine with 76800dp and 2020 indicated on the CR. We're thinking it will have higher resale than 2019 indicated. Can anyone confirm?

[17Sphynx17]

We're actually fine with 76800dp and 2020 indicated on the CR. We're thinking it will have higher resale than 2019 indicated. Can anyone confirm?

Tanong mo panu nila balak gawin na 2020 yung date ng OR/CR, dedelay nila 3 months pag submit ba sa LTO? Baka hindi mo magamit Innova mo ng 3 months at least... more than 3 kung usad pagong pa submission nila by next year.

EDIT: Ngayon ko lang napansin na yung YES emoji was reply to "Is she hot?" haha! Well, at least masaya ka pa din kausap siya since may visual stimulation pala. Acceptable na 5k dun. haha! Magsama na lang siya payong at jacket and keychain. haha!

Picture din siguru kayo. ahaha! KAsama yung malaki susi para di masita ni misis. haha!

[rdgyap]

Tanong mo panu nila balak gawin na 2020 yung date ng OR/CR, dedelay nila 3 months pag submit ba sa LTO? Baka hindi mo magamit Innova mo ng 3 months at least... more than 3 kung usad pagong pa submission nila by next year.

EDIT: Ngayon ko lang napansin na yung YES emoji was reply to "Is she hot?" haha! Well, at least masaya ka pa din kausap siya since may visual stimulation pala. Acceptable na 5k dun. haha! Magsama na lang siya payong at jacket and keychain. haha!

Picture din siguru kayo. ahaha! KAsama yung malaki susi para di masita ni misis. haha!

Hahahaha eto ako pag nasita

[GTi]

We're actually fine with 76800dp and 2020 indicated on the CR. We're thinking it will have higher resale than 2019 indicated. Can anyone confirm?

Fine by me. For as long as 2020 nga talaga siya. I do wonder what differences there are from the 2019 model though. [emoji848]

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[Sarsi]

We're actually fine with 76800dp and 2020 indicated on the CR. We're thinking it will have higher resale than 2019 indicated. Can anyone confirm?

Hindi ka pa nakakabili ng sasakyan, resale value na agad iniisip?



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[Egan101]

Hindi ka pa nakakabili ng sasakyan, resale value na agad iniisip?



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Baka gusto nya mag buy&sell later on. Bili lang ng bili, then benta after mapaglumaan.


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[yapoy86]

Baka gusto nya mag buy&sell later on. Bili lang ng bili, then benta after mapaglumaan.


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As if cash binili... eh hulugan.. malamang mabatak pa yan tapos mag tatanong ano options nya sa bank

[babkalakal]

Hindi ka pa nakakabili ng sasakyan, resale value na agad iniisip?



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in this case I don't think asking about resale value is such a bad idea. After all ni-negotiate niya na lang din yun dp for the most value. He is going for the same vehicle which I am going to assume is his choice. It is practically Nov. already and year lang naman sa rehistro ang pinagkatalo. ang di ko lang alam kun pwede ba talaga 2020 model maski 2019 mo ipinarehistro.

[babkalakal]

i-post na kasi yun picture para alam na natin yun pinag uusapan dito!

.....yun 2020 innova ha?! 😜

[rdgyap]

Hindi ka pa nakakabili ng sasakyan, resale value na agad iniisip?



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I currently drive a ford escape which i bought for a considerably low price and felt a bit sorry for the first owner. This is the reason I think this way.

[ray_noel]

We're actually fine with 76800dp and 2020 indicated on the CR. We're thinking it will have higher resale than 2019 indicated. Can anyone confirm?

If the model is indeeed 2020 released then they will put it in their invoice as 2020 model but if not baka pwede mo sila kausapin... i understand your goal bakit gusto mo palagay na 2020... pero malabo sa c.r na ilagay ang 2020 if yung registration is for 2019 talaga... jan nag sisimula ang corruption...

Kaya pala bag dadalawang isip ka lumipat ng casa for better deal, hot si agent eh. Hehehe.... kaw talaga sir!


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[17Sphynx17]

Yeah it sounds like she wants bigger commision. But we haven't paid dp yet, we just reserved for 5k. I can refund 5k anytime. Besides, CR would reflect 2020 model. Hmm, should I demand 71k dp for the 2020 model?

If it were me, and I would really do this kung ginanyan ako ng agent.

1) I will talk to another dealer ASAP to give me a quote na same vehicle (2019). I will not tell the first agent na kumakausap na ako iba kasi ayaw ko na yan kausapin kung ganyan gagawin niya sa usapang matino naman.

2) Habang nagintay ako quote, magemail naman ako sa original dealer office (not the agent's direct email) and CC Toyota Motor Philippines (wag blind carbon copy, CC para kita nila na included ang head office sa loop) sa ginawa ng agent nung specific dealer. I will write names talaga and kung nagmamadali, inform them that screenshots can be provided if needed as supplementary proof na umiba ihip ng hangin ng agent bigla. "tama ba yun? ganyan ba policy ng Toyota Philippines na babaguhin ang usapan kung kelan confirmed na?"

3) If all else fails at walang nangyari (though I doubt na walang mangyari at feel ko within 24 hours tatawag sa iyo Customer Service ng head office), andiyan naman MUX.

Kung yung promo din nila walang naka state na yung pricing was only for "2019" Model Year, well, walang pinanghahawakan agent na yun. Isasama ko pa kasi sasabihin ko sa email na din
"anung 2020?! E 2019 ngayon, balak ninyo ba delay rehistro ko to next year so di ninyo plano pagamit sa akin kotse ko for at least 3 months? Nalilimutan ninyo ba na wala nang registration and plate backlog ang LTO ngayon? 30 days to 45 days lalabas na dapat sabi ng LTO."

Those are my thoughts. =)