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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    mga sir,

    tanong ko lng po kung anu pnaka mgnda sa tatlo in terms of performance and FC,

    alam ko iba iba cla ng level pero tanong ko po kung anu sa tatlo ung masusuggest nyong best para skn.

    ako lng po ksi mdalas gumagamit ng sskyan at minsan minsan lng kmi naglolong dstance (usually 4-5 lng kmi lumuluwas) and im still student (4th yr college) at anu po ung babagay skn na gmtn?

    and can you give me the FC of the 3 in highway driving and city driving?

    thanks.

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    Get the Jazz in your case... The Montero and Tucson is not as cheap to maintain kasi diesel sila and their gas mileage is not as good given that they have bigger engines and given your low mileage the sub compact class is perfect. Cheap maintenance, perfect for city driving go JAZZ...

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    If you can afford it, Hyundai Tucson diesel variant. I would pick the Montero Sport for it's flexibility and durability compared to the two but you don't need the space so get the Tucson diesel.

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    sir, hnd ba hirap mgbyahe ang jazz?ksi dto po ako province ngaun,incase mgbyahe from nueva vizcaya to manila with 4 passenger plus driver? thanks

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    The Monty Sport is the best all arounder. And at 8.4++ km/L in city driving (actual computation, not based on the RV meter), it isn't bad. It gets 10-11km/L on the highway. My current ride gets 6km/L in the city.

    It's tougher than the Jazz, rides better, and carries more.

    The Jazz is more fun and easier to maneuver but I learned to drive in a 12 seater van so the Montero's size is a non-issue.

    Just see what your needs and wants are. None of your choices are bad vehicles in the first place.

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    Pero katakot takot naman maintenance ng Montero Sport... Reading those Strada PMS threads scare the hell out of me. 8-9 liters of OIL my gawd! A Jazz would only need 4 and if fully synthetic pwede palitan mga 10K sa diesel no way you would not change it every 5K...

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    Yup. It's normal for a rig of its type. My current rig uses 8.4L of oil also. Big engines designed for heavy duty use, require a lot of oil and more frequent changes so the oil doesn't get saturated with contaminants. My only gripe with Mitsu is they use synthetic unless you tell them not to.

    The Jazz actually calls for a 15k service interval? At least that's what the maintenance guy wrote on the windshield reminder. Will check again.

    Yep the Monty calls for a 5k service interval.

    Toughness and versatility does have its price.

    Off warranty and when service is not done at the dealer, the cost is easier to absorb. Just like on my Nissan.

    The Jazz requires less oil but when I'm driving it, I keep forgetting that I have to brake for potholes. :D And I need to start praying when it's parked at the hospital and the rain hasn't stopped for the past hour. Not a problem with an SUV. Rescue and emergency gear also seems to fit better in an SUV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by element2091 View Post
    sir, hnd ba hirap mgbyahe ang jazz?ksi dto po ako province ngaun,incase mgbyahe from nueva vizcaya to manila with 4 passenger plus driver? thanks
    I've driven a Jazz on long trips (2007 model 1.5 engine with a/t). It can manage. In terms of response, its more responsive than a Nissan Patrol diesel on the open road. And the engine makes a nice sound. hehehe.

    Anyway, the Jazz is designed to carry 5 passengers PLUS their luggage so your load won't be a problem.

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    Yeah but does he need that toughness in daily city driving and while driving alone I might add as he has posted in his 1st post? Not the way I read it... Get the Jazz thread starter, no need to bring extra traffic in the road if you drive alone most of the time...

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    thank you po!

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    The only thing I really need to know about you before I recommend any of your vehicles is one simple statement. You're still a student.

    Hence my recommendation is easy. Get the Jazz.

    Why? When the time comes that you have a job of your own, you'll have at least a fighting chance of paying off your maintenance and fuel bills by yourself in the Honda. I highly doubt you could say the same of the other two vehicles. SUVs are not cheap to maintain.

    Long distances are no problem for the Jazz...if anything that's where its fuel economy shines the most. OTEP is correct though, you have to be wary of potholes.

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    Yup, its his choice. But after spending seat time in the MS and Jazz, the MS comes out better for my uses. But i'd still take my current Nissan over them both. hehehe.

    No idea yet on the Tucson, unless someone is willing to lend me one. :D

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    SUVs are not cheap to maintain
    If it's any consolation, aside from routine maintenance, truck based SUV's are not as expensive to repair in some aspects compared to a car based one. Why? Because truck parts are shared with other vehicles in the model line and there is an abundance of third party/pattern/replacement (just avoid fake) parts.

    Php1,000 rear shock absorbers to fit the MS, yes. No idea how much rear shocks for the Tucson and Jazz.

    On my truck, the less expensive KYB shocks fit both front and rear at around Php1,500 a pop. Third party pads are Php550.00 per axle.

    Truck parts are also designed to be tougher and to be repairable (and even field repairable) should failures occur. Some bushings are just bolted on (and cost about Php50.00/ea) and can be fitted without the need for a hydraulic press or any exotic tools.

    The Honda Jazz control arm bushings are not replaceable AFAIK. Instead, you have to get the whole assembly. If they are, please tell me so I can avert being screwed by the dealer.

    No idea yet about electric power steering (used in the Jazz). But hydraulic power steering repair and maintenance has so far not given me a headache. Or maybe because I know a good hydraulic hose shop? hehehe. And hydraulic systems seem to stand up better to water contamination. In fairness to the Jazz, the GD unit we recovered from Ondoy didn't require any PS service after drying the car out (the batter was disconnected as it was sinking).

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    pagbahain dyan sa school nyo kelangan mo ng mas mataas sa jazz

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    Student ka pa? Oo sabi nila mas bagay jazz para sayo kasi student ka pa, pero 4th year college ka na, lapit na graduate kung 4 or 5 years ang course mo. Parehas tayo student, para sa akin ok yung MS or yung tucson na CRDi, ayaw ko kasi ng maliit na sasakyan, hehe. Hi lander lang gamit ko sa school, pero mas gusto ko pa din kaysa sa maliit ng sasakyan eh.

    Kung jazz ang gagamitin mo, mas onti ang sasabay sayo, pero kung yung MS at yung Tucson mas madami. At mas gusto ko looks nung MS at Tucson para sa student, trust me mas madame pogi points yun! Ahahahaha! Go for Tucson na lang.

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    student rin ako. kung dinadaanan mo mejo malupit ang lubak at bahain suggest ko po na kumuha na kayo ng montero sport (lalo na pag ikaw nagmamaintain) kasi pag kunwari jazz tapos maraming lubak eventualy masisira suspension unless na tolerated mo ang kalampag ehehehe. pati ang isa pang suggestion ko eh itestdrive niyo po kasi iba parin yung feel mo yung kotse kesa nabili mo kunwari jazz tapos nakahiram ka ng monty tapos mas gusto mo pala monty ayun wala ka nang choice kasi naibili mo na yung jazz kunwari.. testdrive parin muna. pero ako kung talagang malupit ang lubak monty parin:D

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    Honda Jazz period. You're still a student, iyan ang pinaka-nababagay sa iyo. kadalasan ikaw lang naman mag-isa diba.

    ngayon, yung sinasabi mong out of town, kaya naman nang Jazz ang 4 pax so walang problemo.

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    Your parents, uncles, or some older than you will say, jazz ka na lang student ka pa naman eh, but in the long run, i think monty and or santa fe will serve you better. Tip yan ng student na nagdadala din ng sasakyan, base from my experience yan. hehe. Parehas kami ng naiisip ni kulotz hahaha!

    Insights ko lang po, no offense.

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    Montero Sport 4X2.

    At parang ang lalayo ng choices mo?

    Compact hatch
    Compact SUV
    tapos Mid Size SUV

    Bakit kaya hindi mo pag pilian yung magkakalaban?

    Montero Sport vs Fortuner vs Santa Fe?

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