high mileage cars - what's the clock of ur odometer?

[carxynogen]

Kailan kaya makapag log ODO data mga EV car dito?

So wala pa ring naglolog ng ODO ng EV car nila since this comment was posted.
Pang city car lang siguro mostly EV car nila.
For long drive, make sense to stick with ICE cars.

[carxynogen]

^ Meron din Naman mga a/t tranny Ng Toyota vehicles bumigay na din. Dito na Lang sa forum Meron may mga nag-iinquire kung saan pwede magpagawa Ng mga naglolokong trannies Ng mga sasakyan nila.

Although, I have no idea if same Ang manufacturer Ng a/t trannies ng Toyota across all their vehicle models.

Mostly Fortuners (2016 and up) that were serviced by Autorandz.
Parang may defect ata yung parts ng tranny na yun since mostly sa mga sira ay yung ngipin mismo.
He is suspecting factory defect yung sirang part ng tranny.
Confirmed din na Aisin yung nakakabit na tranny na sira.

Nagtaka nga siya why hindi nag issue ng recall si Toyota PH nito.

[LOLZ]

Mostly Fortuners (2016 and up) that were serviced by Autorandz.
Parang may defect ata yung parts ng tranny na yun since mostly sa mga sira ay yung ngipin mismo.
He is suspecting factory defect yung sirang part ng tranny.
Confirmed din na Aisin yung nakakabit na tranny na sira.

Nagtaka nga siya why hindi nag issue ng recall si Toyota PH nito.

It seems there are no recalls for the Transmission in Australia(i think they also source their forts in indonesia like we do)? I wonder if there are commonalities between the problematic vehicles (year/variant) and are they seeing other vehicles with the same transmission family(IMV, Hiace, Prado) with the same failure mode.

[Dr.Kamiya]

Mostly Fortuners (2016 and up) that were serviced by Autorandz.
Parang may defect ata yung parts ng tranny na yun since mostly sa mga sira ay yung ngipin mismo.
He is suspecting factory defect yung sirang part ng tranny.
Confirmed din na Aisin yung nakakabit na tranny na sira.

Nagtaka nga siya why hindi nag issue ng recall si Toyota PH nito.

Baka driver-driven and when maneuvering to park they slam the transmission between D and R. Surefire way to grind gears.

[GTcervan]

Mostly Fortuners (2016 and up) that were serviced by Autorandz.
Parang may defect ata yung parts ng tranny na yun since mostly sa mga sira ay yung ngipin mismo.
He is suspecting factory defect yung sirang part ng tranny.
Confirmed din na Aisin yung nakakabit na tranny na sira.

Nagtaka nga siya why hindi nag issue ng recall si Toyota PH nito.

Yan ba yung sinasabing may shift shock daw? Lol.

[carxynogen]

Yan ba yung sinasabing may shift shock daw? Lol.

Its not shift shock, tirik talaga yung symptoms.
Tinow talaga yung unit para maipaayos sa Shop.

Here's the link:

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J9eszaugDw
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqE_Ly_snA
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU_Gt21IEqo

The cause is his opinion only, hindi natin alam paano ba talaga ginamit ng may-ari yung fortuner nila.
Pero alarming if maraming Fortuners na ang naka experience nito.

[GTcervan]

Its not shift shock, tirik talaga yung symptoms.
Tinow talaga yung unit para maipaayos sa Shop.

Here's the link:

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J9eszaugDw
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqE_Ly_snA
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU_Gt21IEqo

The cause is his opinion only, hindi natin alam paano ba talaga ginamit ng may-ari yung fortuner nila.
Pero alarming if maraming Fortuners na ang naka experience nito.

Yes. Pero what i meant was, eto yung sinasabi nila dati nung lumabas yung current-gen dati nung 2016.

2016 Toyota Fortuner Jerky Transmission

Suddenly naalala ko lang although idk if related yung issue diyan.

[baludoy]

Its not shift shock, tirik talaga yung symptoms.
Tinow talaga yung unit para maipaayos sa Shop.

Here's the link:

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J9eszaugDw
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqE_Ly_snA
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU_Gt21IEqo

The cause is his opinion only, hindi natin alam paano ba talaga ginamit ng may-ari yung fortuner nila.
Pero alarming if maraming Fortuners na ang naka experience nito.

According to the 2nd video, autorandz has 6 clients who all have the same problem w/ their a/t trannies. Come to think of it, There's another YouTube mechanic from Mindanao who has featured same age fortuners w/ a similar malfunctioning headache.

Baka sa ibang mga talyer may parehong mga complaints na din , for all we know. So Medyo Hindi din Pala rarity Ang sitwaston na ganito sa atin.

[oj88]

It might just be an isolated issue with the software used on the Fortuner's 6-speed A/T.

The GD Innova, Hilux, and HiAce (among many other Toyota models globally, including some Isuzu D-Max/Mazda BT50), uses the same 6-speed A/T (AC60E-2WD or AC60F-4WD / AWR6B45) and does not appear to have this type of failure mode.

[GTcervan]

Baka connected pala kasi mismo yung issue sa standard paddle shifters ng fortuner.

[oj88]

Baka connected pala kasi mismo yung issue sa standard paddle shifters ng fortuner.

How?

Kasi the other non-Fortuner models also have manual mode (Sequential/Sport mode).

[Dr.Kamiya]

Its not shift shock, tirik talaga yung symptoms.
Tinow talaga yung unit para maipaayos sa Shop.

Here's the link:

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J9eszaugDw
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqE_Ly_snA
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU_Gt21IEqo

The cause is his opinion only, hindi natin alam paano ba talaga ginamit ng may-ari yung fortuner nila.
Pero alarming if maraming Fortuners na ang naka experience nito.

Watched the first vid only. Good explanation I think, so don't put the tranny in N when stopped?

[oj88]

Watched the first vid only. Good explanation I think, so don't put the tranny in N when stopped?

My takeaway is, don't do it more often than you should.

[carxynogen]

It might just be an isolated issue with the software used on the Fortuner's 6-speed A/T.

The GD Innova, Hilux, and HiAce (among many other Toyota models globally, including some Isuzu D-Max/Mazda BT50), uses the same 6-speed A/T (AC60E-2WD or AC60F-4WD / AWR6B45) and does not appear to have this type of failure mode.

Kaya nga baka isolated issue lang dun sa specific part na yun.
Baka low quality lang talaga yung naupod na ngipin which needs a recall from the brand.
Kaso, baka out of warranty na yung mga units na nagkakaexperience ng ganito kaya hirap tukoyon if factory defect lang or through usage.

[carxynogen]

Watched the first vid only. Good explanation I think, so don't put the tranny in N when stopped?

Yupp much better to not do it often.
But if i prolong mo naman sa D more often while on stop for longer period of time., you will have the AT to might experience overheat naman.

[dr. d]

i have been shifting to N for many years now... and the trans don't seem to complain...
mebbe i should change my habits...?
sa totoo lang, it's not easy to change lifelong habits, based on the so-called "series of one"...
heh heh.

[shadow]

Negligible damage if meron man yun pag shift to N sa stop light or traffic. I bet your car's tranny will last the lifetime of the car, unless hinde ka nagpapalit NG ATF.

Don't make everything complicated.


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[dr. d]

Negligible damage if meron man yun pag shift to N sa stop light or traffic. I bet your car's tranny will last the lifetime of the car, unless hinde ka nagpapalit NG ATF.

Don't make everything complicated.


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my question is, "what kind of drivers are these with failing ATs?"

abuse the car, and problems that are not usually seen, will start appearing.

[oj88]

Don't make everything complicated.

It's a car forum... It is what we do.

There have been issues attributed to the AC60 transmission. Specifically, the forward clutch drum C1. It seems that the ridge at edge of the drum where the retaining ring is attached, holding back the clutch packs, is a little weak and can break off.

Gears Magazine - Diagnosing Toyota AC6 Issues

It appears to be enough of a problem that there are aftermarket/modded C1 clutch drums available with reinforced ridges.

Forward Clutch drum regeneration TOYOTA AC60E AC60F

From what I'm reading, this is more prevalent on commercial and heavy duty use cases. Couple that with non-optimized PCM/TCM programming, too-high a pressure hydraulics compressing the clutch packs (that jerk users say they feel when shifting to D) may also contribute to this type of failure mode.

[LOLZ]

It's a car forum... It is what we do.

There have been issues attributed to the AC60 transmission. Specifically, the forward clutch drum C1. It seems that the ridge at edge of the drum where the retaining ring is attached, holding back the clutch packs, is a little weak and can break off.

From what I'm reading, this is more prevalent on commercial and heavy duty use cases. Couple that with non-optimized PCM/TCM programming, too-high a pressure hydraulics compressing the clutch packs (that jerk users say they feel when shifting to D) may also contribute to this type of failure mode.

It makes me wonder what kind of heavy usage does the aftermarket part cater to if the aussie guys are happy with an aftermarket transmission tune (to force earlier converter lockup and keep the ATF from overheating) when towing.