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    Pricelist

    Honda City 1.5 ENC AT - P876,000
    Hyundai 1.6 Accent HB CRDi AT - P868,000
    Lancer 1.6 EX MX AT - P930,000


    What would you choose?

    Please consider the same in terms of space, driving comfort, fuel consumption, interior & exterior look, performance, value for money/resale value rolled into one as the main criteria.

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    1) Space - City or Lancer
    2) driving comfort - hard to tell, comfort or sport biased? --
    3) Passenger comfort -- City or Lancer, Accent back seats to upright!
    4) FC -- Accent, being a diesel
    5) looks - subjective
    6) performance -- Accent (acceleration)
    7) value for money -- could be accent, diesels tend to generally have good residual values but it will boil down to market desirability at the end of the day.
    8) You want to help your country? -- Buy a city, its made locally!

    Quote Originally Posted by istarbuxs View Post
    Pricelist

    Honda City 1.5 ENC AT - P876,000
    Hyundai 1.6 Accent HB CRDi AT - P868,000
    Lancer 1.6 EX MX AT - P930,000


    What would you choose?

    Please consider the same in terms of space, driving comfort, fuel consumption, interior & exterior look, performance, value for money/resale value rolled into one as the main criteria.

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    Honestly, I would rank them as follows.

    Lancer>City>Accent

    This is based from priorities of ease of ownership & practicality. If you really want the Accent, I suggest you wait at least about a year or so. I am a member of Accent club and I've heard personally, from owners, some probs that might raise eyebrows cause it ain't supposed to be there in a brand new car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basti08 View Post
    This is based from priorities of ease of ownership & practicality. If you really want the Accent, I suggest you wait at least about a year or so. I am a member of Accent club and I've heard personally, from owners, some probs that might raise eyebrows cause it ain't supposed to be there in a brand new car.
    Are you referring to the gas variant? Please share the details.

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    Diesel variants although most occurs on MT variants. Stucked clutch anyone? You wouldn't want that in a new car, do you? Several units have been plagued and the casa seems not yet knowledgeable to manage it, as of yet. Some black smoke emitting unit due to poorly screwed hoses etc. Minor glitches, but sucks. And of course, the diesel shares suspension bits with the gas variant which have some suspension glitches (CV joints, poor shocks, brake calipers that eats rotors etc). Give them about a year or two to fix them. Anyway, Hyundai is very much responsive to criticisms and observations anyway.
    Last edited by basti08; April 23rd, 2013 at 11:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basti08 View Post
    Diesel variants although most occurs on MT variants. Stucked clutch anyone? You wouldn't want that in a new car, do you? Several units have been plagued and the casa seems not yet knowledgeable to manage it, as of yet. Some black smoke emitting unit due to poorly screw hoses etc. Minor glitches, but sucks. And of course, the diesel shares suspension bits with the gas variant which have some suspension glitches (CV joints, poor shocks, brake calipers that eats rotors etc). Give them about a year or two to fix them. Anyway, Hyundai is very much responsive to criticisms and observations anyway.
    Thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basti08 View Post
    Diesel variants although most occurs on MT variants. Stucked clutch anyone? You wouldn't want that in a new car, do you? Several units have been plagued and the casa seems not yet knowledgeable to manage it, as of yet. Some black smoke emitting unit due to poorly screwed hoses etc. Minor glitches, but sucks. And of course, the diesel shares suspension bits with the gas variant which have some suspension glitches (CV joints, poor shocks, brake calipers that eats rotors etc). Give them about a year or two to fix them. Anyway, Hyundai is very much responsive to criticisms and observations anyway.
    Thanks for sharing this! Very valuable first/secondhand info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basti08 View Post
    Honestly, I would rank them as follows.

    Lancer>City>Accent

    This is based from priorities of ease of ownership & practicality. If you really want the Accent, I suggest you wait at least about a year or so. I am a member of Accent club and I've heard personally, from owners, some probs that might raise eyebrows cause it ain't supposed to be there in a brand new car.
    Now I'm more leaning towards the City. I have recently paid a down for the Accent HB but it hasn't arrived yet. I might test drive the new City this weekend to see how it responds. The difference between the cost of the City and Lancer is big, in which can be used to upgrade/accessorize the City moving forward.

    I will also test drive the Lancer, and see from there.

    Also Sir Basti, could you explain further on the basis of your choice being Lancer > City > Accent.

    It would really help us new car buyers.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by basti08 View Post
    Diesel variants although most occurs on MT variants. Stucked clutch anyone? You wouldn't want that in a new car, do you? Several units have been plagued and the casa seems not yet knowledgeable to manage it, as of yet. Some black smoke emitting unit due to poorly screwed hoses etc. Minor glitches, but sucks. And of course, the diesel shares suspension bits with the gas variant which have some suspension glitches (CV joints, poor shocks, brake calipers that eats rotors etc). Give them about a year or two to fix them. Anyway, Hyundai is very much responsive to criticisms and observations anyway.
    Never thought the new Accent HB had issues like this.

    Thanks for sharing!

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    Mitsu gives 31k cash discount so 899k na lang sya..
    I will choose lancer over city..
    Test driven both cars and mas ok handling ng lancer(for me)..
    Though city's interior finish is better and bigger trunk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    Never thought the new Accent HB had issues like this.

    Thanks for sharing!
    In fairness to Hyundai, dati naririnig ko na mausok yung unang labas na Accent CRDi, although trip namin sabi ni erpats wag muna, paunahin mo muna iba makabili tapos tanong tayo feedback. Pati sa mga taxi drivers tinanong namin sa feedback. It was quite a gamble kasi most would say madaling masira daw turbo ng Accent CRDi na katulad ng sa akin. Pero awa ng Diyos hindi naman, mas improved pa nga ang engines ng later Accent CRDi models as some say, kaya nga iba ang oil filter ng 2006-08 sa 09-11 (like mine). Point is, Hyundai is constantly improving its products naman, I haven't heard any suspension problems from 2013 model owners so far. Most na mga naririnig ko is dun sa mga kakilala kong 2011 gas models. Which is the 1st batches ng gasoline Accent. Baka naayos na nila suspension problems. Yung may clutch problem, nakausap ko mismo yung isang nag rereklamo sa unit nya. 2 days palang ang oto. Nakausap ko sya sa last EB namin. Frustrating part hindi pa alam ng casa what to do. Wala pa sila memo. At natatanggal naman pag off then restart mo makina. Kaya yun muna cure nya sa plagued units at the moment. And the reason for sharing is not to bash my own brand, it's because I know how valuable 1st hand info from real owners, kaya nga sali ako ng sali sa mga car club ng oto ko e (or kahit balak bilin palang). And it matters to me, where and what model will I get satisfying ownership experience with my hard earned peso.

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    Yung kaibigan ko may honda city 1.3 tapos nabaha, ayun binayaran ng insurance tapos ang binili niya itong accent crdi na red. Nung nakausap ko kung ano mas maganda, wala daw tatalo sa honda city. Pag nagkapera daw ulit siya bibili daw siya ulit nun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beni23 View Post
    Yung kaibigan ko may honda city 1.3 tapos nabaha, ayun binayaran ng insurance tapos ang binili niya itong accent crdi na red. Nung nakausap ko kung ano mas maganda, wala daw tatalo sa honda city. Pag nagkapera daw ulit siya bibili daw siya ulit nun.
    sir nabanggit ba nung kaibigan mo kung ano ayaw nya sa Accent HB CRDi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by s10pao View Post
    sir nabanggit ba nung kaibigan mo kung ano ayaw nya sa Accent HB CRDi?
    Wala naman daw siya reklamo, mas maganda lang daw talaga performance nung city niya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istarbuxs View Post
    Pricelist

    Honda City 1.5 ENC AT - P876,000
    Hyundai 1.6 Accent HB CRDi AT - P868,000
    Lancer 1.6 EX MX AT - P930,000


    What would you choose?

    Please consider the same in terms of space, driving comfort, fuel consumption, interior & exterior look, performance, value for money/resale value rolled into one as the main criteria.
    Space - Lancer
    Looks - Lancer
    FC - Accent
    Performance - Accent
    Investment and Resale - City

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    Quote Originally Posted by beni23 View Post
    Wala naman daw siya reklamo, mas maganda lang daw talaga performance nung city niya.
    talaga? ung opismate ko dati nagrereklamo dun sa city nya. bitin daw hatak compared sa cruze nila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s10pao View Post
    talaga? ung opismate ko dati nagrereklamo dun sa city nya. bitin daw hatak compared sa cruze nila.
    Cruze naman yun! Haha. Si av8or5 lang kilala kong may cruze, at binenta niya kaagad. Di ko pa naman siya nakakausap tungkol dun.

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    The diesel uses a stiffer suspension than the gas, and CV Joints are different, so any problems there will not be shared.

    My only worry for the CRDi going forward is the engine mounts feel soft and the feel at the clutch pedal suggests it's a cable clutch, not a hydraulic. Not nice to use and might result in premature clutch wear in traffic.

    Lancer GLX is a good deal versus the MX.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by beni23 View Post
    Cruze naman yun! Haha. Si av8or5 lang kilala kong may cruze, at binenta niya kaagad. Di ko pa naman siya nakakausap tungkol dun.
    hehe ang ibig ko sabihin eh un bang sinasabing "performance" nung kaibigan mo eh ung hatak o iba pa? dati kasi tinitingnan ko rin itong honda city kaso nung sinabi nga nung opismate ko na parang bitin ung hatak eh na-turn-off ako. BTW 1.5 ung city nya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    Space - Lancer
    Looks - Lancer
    FC - Accent
    Performance - Accent
    Investment and Resale - City
    Hyundai Diesels have good resale, too. Case in point, 08-10 Accent GL CRDi vs (similarly priced when brand new) 08-10 Vios E/City ZX 1.3 and some 09-10 City 1.3A.

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