4x2 Pickup DMax/Strada/Hilux/Ranger Debate. daily drive rig

[toyotaparter]

First of all, please allow me to post this kahit na double topic because I am really confused regarding pickup choices.

I am a simple person, 27 years old with a height of 5'6, so any big rig will not match me because i will look too short. I am intending to use this pickup as a daily driven rig. It should be very fuel efficient, tough, durable and comfortable. I dont go offroad as a necessity, just for fun. and i also dont haul anything for buisness (or atleast not yet). Our family only consists of 4 people which are about my height so rear seating is a plus, but not a necessity.

I usually drive by myself, or with a companion, bihira lang maupuan yung rear seats. mga once a week lang.

I am currently looking for the most practical pickup out there na bagay sakin. Probably yung pinaka fuel efficient, cheap to maintain and durable.


any inputs guys?


If you own any of those rigs, it would sure help a lot if you'd post your fuel consumption para mas broad ang research ko. I dont wanna make a mistake choosing out a diesel guzzler pickup.



thanks a bunch!!

[Walter]

This topic has been discussed extensively already, you can find them in the car comparison forum.

[GTi]

If you value fuel efficiency and durability a lot, perhaps the best for you would be the D-Max 3.0Ddi M/T. It is among the most fuel efficient 3.0L turbo diesels around and though it does not have much top end power, low end grunt is what pickups need and that is what it has. If you value comfort and space then the Strada is for you. It is the most comfortable pickup in its class and also the one with the most interior space (at the expense of lesser cargo space). Also, it has the most top end power so running this one in highways is really a blast.

[cripple_rooster]

Hilux is also a good option, altough the Isuzu might be the most suitable.

Would be a good option to run thru the floods

[zap.FREEDOM]

Forget the Strada since it is a lifestyle truck, I'm on it when it comes to comfort and performance but for the maintenance cost for every 5k kms. and so on, it is too pricey, yeah it's a lifestyle truck. that's it.

the options would be, Isuzu D-Max and Nissan Navara LE, Isuzu D-Max, despite the fact it has the largest engine displacement (2953cc/3.0L) among its competitors it surprisingly one of the fuel efficient truck around there, quick accelaration at low rpm though as what sir GTi said "no much top end power" e matulin rin naman. Maintenance wise since it still conventional diesel engine technology of Isuzu and not picky when it come to fuel, it can even burn a bunker fuel, durability? No conversation it is an Isuzu.

btw sir, why did you not include Navara in your options? It is also a good truck with a sportscar spirit, fuel efficient, harnessing a 10km/L in mixed driving condition, highway would be 14km/L and the lowest for traffic condition would be 8-9km/L something'.

[GTi]

Do you guys remember our dear friend hinDMaxsiado? D-Max fanboy though he may be but I agree with just about everything he says about the D-Max. Not many trucks out there have as wide a powerband as the D-Max with a factory quoted torque output of 294Nm*1400-3400rpm. Even though the numbers are not high, you can easily tune for more power. I rememeber sir dmax harping about getting dramatically improved fuel economy and performance after installing a piggyback ECU when the D-Max can already reach around 10km/L city and a top speed of around 200km/h in stock form.

[duramax_994]

ahaha! ahihihi! ahohoho!:rofl:

HinDnakoMaxiado bilib sa isuzu nowadays.. Btw, do we really have the exact numbers or comparison kung gaano ba talaga ka fuel efficient ang Dmax as compared to other local pickups? Kasi IMO, if the difference is only around 2-3 liters per 100 kms then i just choose the navarra, hilux or strada which are more powerful..

[GTi]

I would not be getting the Hilux as the 2.5L sucks and the 3.0 A/T has earned a reputation of not being fuel efficient. Strada, as mentioned has high maintenance costs, though if comfort and interior space is the top priority it's definitely the top pick. Navara naman... If you do go offroad sometimes, the low ground clearance may be a deal breaker and then there is the fact that it does not have that much low end grunt.

[SiRbossR]

Hilux is also a good option, altough the Isuzu might be the most suitable.

Would be a good option to run thru the floods

^^^That's the Dmax with the Crosswind engine.

BTT:

i was about to recommend the Strada but...the PMS is too expensive for a truck. Pero you can still take a look at it and test drive it.

hindi rin ako bilib sa Isuzu. The Dmax is just as efficient as the Strada, Ranger and the Navara . But current Ranger however will have much much Low End Torque, higher horsepower rating, an LSD, Better driving feel, Waterproof ECU and a dependable water wading capable truck but you'll also having a bumpy ride. The Strada will have a higher HP output engine and no LSD.

If you're getting the 2.5 GLX-V then you're also having ugly wheel and tire combo and no ABS but it will give you a comfortable ride.

The Dmax has a large engine and only outputting puny amounts of torque and it also doesn't drive well and a really harsh ride.

Navara? Sportscar spirit? How? It doesn't look nor drive like one, not the zippy too compared to the 4x4 2.5 high-output engine. the Navara is good. Spacious interior, comfortable rear seats. The only thing i don't like about is its so ugly in 4x2 form.

The only thing i would recommend for the TS is to test drive each rig. yun lang.

[GTi]

Well, even having similar fuel consumption numbers as the 2.5L Strada, Ranger and Navara, that is still a considerable feat given the bigger engine. This also means it is not as highly strung as its 2.5L counterparts which should lead to longer service life. Besides, I don't think there is any other pickup here that offers a 3.0L engine with manual transmission and 4x2 drivetrain combo. Using the 2.4L Accord, I have once played with a D-Max in the highway and I can say that it is definitely no slouch.

The Ranger is a good choice but then it would be up to the TS if he can live with the harsh ride and the torture for the rear occupants.

[SiRbossR]

^the Dmax has a harsher ride and a real torture for rear occupants. and beside the TS said that he will most of the time drive it by himself.

[GTi]

If all he wants is a dependable and frugal workhorse with low cost parts that will last him a million kilometers without hesitation then the D-Max it is. Otherwise, the Ranger has better handling and more power (for the 3.0L variant). Not so sure how the parts and maintenance compares with the Isuzu though, Ford isn't exactly known for low cost parts.

[AKI125]

I dont know with mitsubishi how come their PMS is quite pricey. Theyre selling pick up trucks at the cheapest in the market but bumawi naman sa PMS. Ford is also known to charge high also with their PMS. No idea for the hilux and how much does toyota charges for their PMS. As for the navara, having one for personal use, im quite surprise how low my PMS. For my recent 40k PMS where in all fluid where changed, i only got charged with 11k including parts, labor, engine wash, underchassis wash

[SiRbossR]

If all he wants is a dependable and frugal workhorse with low cost parts that will last him a million kilometers without hesitation then the D-Max it is. Otherwise, the Ranger has better handling and more power (for the 3.0L variant). Not so sure how the parts and maintenance compares with the Isuzu though, Ford isn't exactly known for low cost parts.

Even for the 2.5L, it has more power than the Dmax. 330NM-144HP.

I know someone who has two rangers, the 2003 Model clocking 289,xxxkms and the new TDCi model clocking 160,xxxkms already. That's hard driving and long driving pa. Not all Ford parts are that expensive. If you're gonna compare same class of cars, then Ford parts won't be that expensive versus the competitors, that is if you're getting parts from reliable suppliers. Mas mahal pa piyesa ng Nissan Frontier compared to the Ranger. Pero if you're goin to compare an Expedition versus an Isuzu Alterra for example well then, that's not fair on the Ford.

[GTi]

I have always wondered why the Alterra is advertised as having torque output of 315Nm*1400-3400rpm but the D-Max with only 294Nm*1400-3400rpm. Na-miss ko talaga yung mga Excel charts ni bro ahihi ahoho when it comes to this sort of discussions.

But totoo nga hindi lang for advertising purposes ang TORQ part ng Ford DuraTORQ engines. Ang lalakas talaga! Ang hindi ko lang alam kung gaano ka broad ang torque plateau ng 2.5TDCi. Kung torque peak lang ba siya like most 2.5L turbodiesels o totoong torque plateau with that sort of torque available throughout a large part of the rev range?

[SiRbossR]

Nakakamiss nga din yung si Dmaxiado. kaso nakakatamad minsan basahin posts niya, paulit2 at sobrang haba.

About the DuraTORQ, yes, it's a Torque plateau. and it's really really wide and as i can remember it starts as early as 1700RPM for the 3.0 and 1800RPM for 2.5L. Both peaks at 2000RPM. Di ko lang alam san ko makukuha yung line graph niyan. meron nun eh.

[zap.FREEDOM]

Nakakamiss nga din yung si Dmaxiado. kaso nakakatamad minsan basahin posts niya, paulit2 at sobrang haba.

About the DuraTORQ, yes, it's a Torque plateau. and it's really really wide and as i can remember it starts as early as 1700RPM for the 3.0 and 1800RPM for 2.5L. Both peaks at 2000RPM. Di ko lang alam san ko makukuha yung line graph niyan. meron nun eh.

hehehe..!!!oo yung may mga figure pa nga siya pinepresent, sa dynotesting ata yun e, hehehe!!!grabe may scientific figures pa yung mga explanation/classifcation niya dun sa d-max and its competitors, oo nga ano nasan na ba si mr.Dmaxiado? dati basta usapang pick-up truck e lagi siyang tatad ng post sa mga thread. Well, di natin masisi, proud Izusu D-max owner at mas kabisado niya yun kaya yung ang ibinibida niya.

[SiRbossR]

Isuzu fanboy siya, kaya ganun talaga siya makapag-defend. na-ban si hinDmaxiado tapos gumawa ng bagong account. haha naban siya, asaran sila nung isang troll din eh.

BTT: Test drive each cars nalan..

[GTi]

Haha~ Oo nga, naban tapos gumawa ng bagong account para matapos ang away niya pero after that hindi na bumalik. :hysterical: I witnessed the whole thing. Ahh~ So troll rin pala yung kaaway niya? I never knew! Ahihi ahoho!

*TS: Yung sa Isuzu D-Max, kahit marami nagsasabi na panay marketing lang ang Isuzu, pero in the case of the D-Max ay totoo talaga ang legendary reliability ng Isuzu. So far, unlike with other brands, I have never heard any issues with its engine. Personally, I really like its interior design. Very utilitarian and well suited to a pickup truck unlike the more luxurious designs with the other competitors (aside from the Ranger, but I still prefer the D-Max's), and the gauges are very much my taste too. In the end like bro SiR said, test drive and see for yourself.

[SiRbossR]

^haha... ang babaw ng pinagtatalunan eh. gumawa pa ng comic yung nang-aasar sa kanya. tsaka alam mo din talaga bro GTi kung bakit din talaga siya naban eh. may isa pang reason.

BTT:

Ayoko lang sa Dmax yung mababa ang pwesto ng alternator, just beside the right front wheel. dalawa nadin kasi nakita ko na tumirik sa mababaw na flood. maybe that's the reason din.