4x2 Pickup DMax/Strada/Hilux/Ranger Debate. daily drive rig

[toyotaparter]

First of all, please allow me to post this kahit na double topic because I am really confused regarding pickup choices.

I am a simple person, 27 years old with a height of 5'6, so any big rig will not match me because i will look too short. I am intending to use this pickup as a daily driven rig. It should be very fuel efficient, tough, durable and comfortable. I dont go offroad as a necessity, just for fun. and i also dont haul anything for buisness (or atleast not yet). Our family only consists of 4 people which are about my height so rear seating is a plus, but not a necessity.

I usually drive by myself, or with a companion, bihira lang maupuan yung rear seats. mga once a week lang.

I am currently looking for the most practical pickup out there na bagay sakin. Probably yung pinaka fuel efficient, cheap to maintain and durable.


any inputs guys?


If you own any of those rigs, it would sure help a lot if you'd post your fuel consumption para mas broad ang research ko. I dont wanna make a mistake choosing out a diesel guzzler pickup.



thanks a bunch!!

[Walter]

This topic has been discussed extensively already, you can find them in the car comparison forum.

[GTi]

If you value fuel efficiency and durability a lot, perhaps the best for you would be the D-Max 3.0Ddi M/T. It is among the most fuel efficient 3.0L turbo diesels around and though it does not have much top end power, low end grunt is what pickups need and that is what it has. If you value comfort and space then the Strada is for you. It is the most comfortable pickup in its class and also the one with the most interior space (at the expense of lesser cargo space). Also, it has the most top end power so running this one in highways is really a blast.

[cripple_rooster]

Hilux is also a good option, altough the Isuzu might be the most suitable.

Would be a good option to run thru the floods

[zap.FREEDOM]

Forget the Strada since it is a lifestyle truck, I'm on it when it comes to comfort and performance but for the maintenance cost for every 5k kms. and so on, it is too pricey, yeah it's a lifestyle truck. that's it.

the options would be, Isuzu D-Max and Nissan Navara LE, Isuzu D-Max, despite the fact it has the largest engine displacement (2953cc/3.0L) among its competitors it surprisingly one of the fuel efficient truck around there, quick accelaration at low rpm though as what sir GTi said "no much top end power" e matulin rin naman. Maintenance wise since it still conventional diesel engine technology of Isuzu and not picky when it come to fuel, it can even burn a bunker fuel, durability? No conversation it is an Isuzu.

btw sir, why did you not include Navara in your options? It is also a good truck with a sportscar spirit, fuel efficient, harnessing a 10km/L in mixed driving condition, highway would be 14km/L and the lowest for traffic condition would be 8-9km/L something'.

[GTi]

Do you guys remember our dear friend hinDMaxsiado? D-Max fanboy though he may be but I agree with just about everything he says about the D-Max. Not many trucks out there have as wide a powerband as the D-Max with a factory quoted torque output of 294Nm*1400-3400rpm. Even though the numbers are not high, you can easily tune for more power. I rememeber sir dmax harping about getting dramatically improved fuel economy and performance after installing a piggyback ECU when the D-Max can already reach around 10km/L city and a top speed of around 200km/h in stock form.

[SiRbossR]

Hilux is also a good option, altough the Isuzu might be the most suitable.

Would be a good option to run thru the floods

^^^That's the Dmax with the Crosswind engine.

BTT:

i was about to recommend the Strada but...the PMS is too expensive for a truck. Pero you can still take a look at it and test drive it.

hindi rin ako bilib sa Isuzu. The Dmax is just as efficient as the Strada, Ranger and the Navara . But current Ranger however will have much much Low End Torque, higher horsepower rating, an LSD, Better driving feel, Waterproof ECU and a dependable water wading capable truck but you'll also having a bumpy ride. The Strada will have a higher HP output engine and no LSD.

If you're getting the 2.5 GLX-V then you're also having ugly wheel and tire combo and no ABS but it will give you a comfortable ride.

The Dmax has a large engine and only outputting puny amounts of torque and it also doesn't drive well and a really harsh ride.

Navara? Sportscar spirit? How? It doesn't look nor drive like one, not the zippy too compared to the 4x4 2.5 high-output engine. the Navara is good. Spacious interior, comfortable rear seats. The only thing i don't like about is its so ugly in 4x2 form.

The only thing i would recommend for the TS is to test drive each rig. yun lang.

[GTi]

Well, even having similar fuel consumption numbers as the 2.5L Strada, Ranger and Navara, that is still a considerable feat given the bigger engine. This also means it is not as highly strung as its 2.5L counterparts which should lead to longer service life. Besides, I don't think there is any other pickup here that offers a 3.0L engine with manual transmission and 4x2 drivetrain combo. Using the 2.4L Accord, I have once played with a D-Max in the highway and I can say that it is definitely no slouch.

The Ranger is a good choice but then it would be up to the TS if he can live with the harsh ride and the torture for the rear occupants.

[cripple_rooster]

^^^That's the Dmax with the Crosswind engine.

Actually that was not a 4JA1-powered D-Max. Altough it would actually be enought for a daily commuter.

[AKI125]

I dont know with mitsubishi how come their PMS is quite pricey. Theyre selling pick up trucks at the cheapest in the market but bumawi naman sa PMS. Ford is also known to charge high also with their PMS. No idea for the hilux and how much does toyota charges for their PMS. As for the navara, having one for personal use, im quite surprise how low my PMS. For my recent 40k PMS where in all fluid where changed, i only got charged with 11k including parts, labor, engine wash, underchassis wash

[AKI125]

Ang tipid naman sobra yun. Yan mahirap, masyadong exaj kung pabor sa beloved vehicled niya tapos panay maling info sa ibang brand. Kung hindi pa siya nicorrect ng kaibigan niya lolokohin pa tayo sa final gear ratio ng dmax tapos sa final gear ratio ng ibang brand ibababaan niya para lumabas na lamang yun beloved truck niya.

Kahit may dyno sheet na showing a chipped dmax cant even beat a bone stock automatic 4x2 navara. Napikon at tinawag pa sinungalin mga kadebate niya. Natawa nalang mga tao kasi sa sobrang destructed siya hindi matanggap pagkatalo ng beloved niya hindi niya nakita na yun navara ng shift at 3500 rpm meaning hindi pa full throttle yun navara pero talo pa rin yun beloved vehicle niya.

[AKI125]

For pure city driving, 10 km/ltr sounds reasonable for an ordinary city driving. 18km/liter for highway driving naman. This features are based on bone stock diesel powered pick up truck na manual(in any brand)

[AKI125]

We have to take in consideration that this eco run was organized by isuzu phils and the vehicles used were also isuzu phils owned. Unlike with the previous isuzu eco run, isuzu owners were given a chance to join the contest where in we can take the average of all the competitors to get a decent figure. Since the dmax used comes with a computer box, its was configured to optimized fuel efficiency over performance plus there were settings which is not applicable for daily drive like high tire pressure, minimized aircon usage and low rpm shifting. Im not quite sure with regards to weight trimming though, anong puede trim down sa dmax? Magaang na yun dmax among other brands.

[GTi]

We have to take in consideration that this eco run was organized by isuzu phils and the vehicles used were also isuzu phils owned. Unlike with the previous isuzu eco run, isuzu owners were given a chance to join the contest where in we can take the average of all the competitors to get a decent figure. Since the dmax used comes with a computer box, its was configured to optimized fuel efficiency over performance plus there were settings which is not applicable for daily drive like high tire pressure, minimized aircon usage and low rpm shifting. Im not quite sure with regards to weight trimming though, anong puede trim down sa dmax? Magaang na yun dmax among other brands.

That particular D-Max, being a 4JA1 unit, has no computer box. AFAIK the aircon was set to 1 for the entire trip. Low rpm shifting, you can adapt on your daily driving.

[cripple_rooster]

That particular D-Max, being a 4JA1 unit, has no computer box.

Altough it wouldn't prevent the injection pump to have had a different tuning

[GTi]

Altough it wouldn't prevent the injection pump to have had a different tuning

If so then I suppose you can do so with your old school diesel too at the diesel calibration shop by the corner.

[cripple_rooster]

If so then I suppose you can do so with your old school diesel too at the diesel calibration shop by the corner.

That's the point. There are also some tricks to increase the injection pressure with no need to replace the entire injection pump, improving the spraying pattern inside the cylinders to get a higher efficiency.

[AKI125]

My bad, i thought they used DMAX LX model which comes with a 4JJI engine.

[GTi]

The LX 4x4 used the 4JJ1 engine. By the way, can anyone here find the results of the D-Max 3.0? I can't seem to find it anywhere. I know both the LX 4x2 and LS 4x2 M/T participated.

[toyotaparter]

"The D-Max LX is powered by a 3.0 liter CRDi tubo diesel engine. It has a 76-liter tank capacity, giving the impressive distance of 24.26 kilometers per liter of fuel."

- The Manila Bulletin