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    Guys, I really need your advice and inputs. So we're still looking for our first brand new family car. We are a family of 7 (pero mostly 4 or 5 lang ang sakay), around 5'8" ang height and planning to buy an entry level family car, at least 7-seater. We are initially considering Avanza but we decided to take it out of the picture because of its looks and features. (Also considered the advices of some of the guys here).

    Now, we are cureently choosing between the three: Mobilio, BRV, or Crosswind XT. What we like about the Mobilio is its looks and I think it has a pretty nice specs for its price. My problem is its height, medyo mababa sya. Kaya pumasok si BRV sa options. Then, for the Crosswind, my sister wants the crosswind for several reasons, ground clearance, can seat 10 people (we really want an Innova pero di kaya sa budget), and diesel engine. What I dont like about it is that it's an old model, which lacks safety features among others. So tell me, is my dislike for the crosswind valid?

    Help us decide which car would best suit us. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

    EDIT: The goal also is to have a car that would probable serve us at least 10 years. This is another reason why I dislike the crosswind. (I am thinking that because it's an old model, sobrang maluluma na sya, unlike the mobilio or brv)

    PS: Hirap pala pumili ng sasakyan. Litong-lito na ako. hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by erebus View Post
    Guys, I really need your advice and inputs. So we're still looking for our first brand new family car. We are a family of 7 (pero mostly 4 or 5 lang ang sakay), around 5'8" ang height and planning to buy an entry level family car, at least 7-seater. We are initially considering Avanza but we decided to take it out of the picture because of its looks and features. (Also considered the advices of some of the guys here).

    Now, we are cureently choosing between the three: Mobilio, BRV, or Crosswind XT. What we like about the Mobilio is its looks and I think it has a pretty nice specs for its price. My problem is its height, medyo mababa sya. Kaya pumasok si BRV sa options. Then, for the Crosswind, my sister wants the crosswind for several reasons, ground clearance, can seat 10 people (we really want an Innova pero di kaya sa budget), and diesel engine. What I dont like about it is that it's an old model, which lacks safety features among others. So tell me, is my dislike for the crosswind valid?

    Help us decide which car would best suit us. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

    EDIT: The goal also is to have a car that would probable serve us at least 10 years. This is another reason why I dislike the crosswind. (I am thinking that because it's an old model, sobrang maluluma na sya, unlike the mobilio or brv)

    PS: Hirap pala pumili ng sasakyan. Litong-lito na ako. hehe
    How about a 2nd hand Innova? I see 2015 Innovas in the less than 1M range over at OLX. May 1-2 years of warranty pa yun assuming may service records yung kotse.

    Any of the three choices will probably serve you well for 10 years. Important lang yung maintenance...

    That said, the Crosswind is already a 20 year old vehicle at this point... halos 30 na nga ata if you consider mechanical similarities to the 1990s Highlander.

    If you value ride quality, hindi masyadong okay yung crosswind, but it IS a good workhorse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    How about a 2nd hand Innova? I see 2015 Innovas in the less than 1M range over at OLX. May 1-2 years of warranty pa yun assuming may service records yung kotse.

    Any of the three choices will probably serve you well for 10 years. Important lang yung maintenance...

    That said, the Crosswind is already a 20 year old vehicle at this point... halos 30 na nga ata if you consider mechanical similarities to the 1990s Highlander.

    If you value ride quality, hindi masyadong okay yung crosswind, but it IS a good workhorse.
    We already eliminated the second hand option because our first car was a second hand corona, ages ago. Thank you for your input, I rally appreciate it.

    By the way, what do you mean by ride quality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by erebus View Post
    We already eliminated the second hand option because our first car was a second hand corona, ages ago. Thank you for your input, I rally appreciate it.

    By the way, what do you mean by ride quality?
    Well you cannot compare your 2nd hand corona ages ago compared to a 2nd hand innova today. Those are the times that when you say you bought a "second hand car" it almost equates to "bulok"... but times have changed.


    I'd choose a 2nd hand 2015 innova diesel well maintained and in good condition than a brandnew mobilio. Reliability and brand speaks for itself. My cousin bought a mobilio and in a few weeks went back to casa due to busted AC.

    Be warned that euro 2 engine like adventure and crosswind will be phased out next year

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    Quote Originally Posted by erebus View Post
    We already eliminated the second hand option because our first car was a second hand corona, ages ago. Thank you for your input, I rally appreciate it.

    By the way, what do you mean by ride quality?
    At the time you could find the Corona 2nd hand, vehicle quality sucked to the point that a 2-3 year old car had teething problems na... Today, we have a 14 year old Camry (which, incidentally was the model that replaced the Corona) going strong pa.

    Ride quality as in how well the car rides on the road and how comfortable it is for the occupants. Do a test drive around the block between the Crosswind, Innova, and BRV/Mobilio and the Crosswind will easily be the odd man out. My parents who owned the first box type Pajero back in the 80s and were fine with it, nasuka sa ride ng Crosswind...

    Quote Originally Posted by erebus View Post
    Pwede ba sa bank car loan and second hand cars?
    Yes. Most banks allow 2nd hand cars as long as under 3-5 years old.

    Other things to consider going against the Crosswind - Favorite ng ABSU (Anti Smoke Belching Unit) for pa-merienda, along with the L300 and Adventure.
    Last edited by mda; November 12th, 2017 at 09:40 PM.

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    Second hand innova. Abang abang ng mga nagbebenta galing sa malaking subdivision, madalas service ng mga anak galing at papunta ng school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calistro View Post
    Second hand innova. Abang abang ng mga nagbebenta galing sa malaking subdivision, madalas service ng mga anak galing at papunta ng school.

    Would avoid school service vehicles ... spent too much time idling ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    At the time you could find the Corona 2nd hand, vehicle quality sucked to the point that a 2-3 year old car had teething problems na... Today, we have a 14 year old Camry (which, incidentally was the model that replaced the Corona) going strong pa.

    Ride quality as in how well the car rides on the road and how comfortable it is for the occupants. Do a test drive around the block between the Crosswind, Innova, and BRV/Mobilio and the Crosswind will easily be the odd man out. My parents who owned the first box type Pajero back in the 80s and were fine with it, nasuka sa ride ng Crosswind...



    Yes. Most banks allow 2nd hand cars as long as under 3-5 years old.

    Other things to consider going against the Crosswind - Favorite ng ABSU (Anti Smoke Belching Unit) for pa-merienda, along with the L300 and Adventure.
    Bakit naman yun unit ko crosswind 2001 model 245000 kms never naman naging mausok ganon dun sa tropa ko 310000kms la rin usok di nagbukas ng makina at injection pump.


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    Quote Originally Posted by x-wind View Post
    Bakit naman yun unit ko crosswind 2001 model 245000 kms never naman naging mausok ganon dun sa tropa ko 310000kms la rin usok di nagbukas ng makina at injection pump.


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    Di ko alam sir, baka swerte kayo, baka malas yung mga nakikita ko na nahuhuli sa ABSU. Hehe.

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    ^I agree... Was choosing between the Innova, Crosswind and Adventure earlier... Chose the Adventure (which is slow, seatbelt lang ang safety feature and old)

    As I posted earlier... May ibang confidence ka sa AUV. We had a FX earlier and kapag umuulan, paagahan kami ng alis sa house to use it (later replaced by the Adv)
    Going to the market... Iwan din kotse sa house, AUV kami

    More than 10 years with the FX and more than 5 years with the Adventure, never kaming pinara ng smoke belching. Although sa FX yung unang huli ko for driving without a seatbelt... (our 94 model didn't come with front seatbelts)

    The Toplander suggested earlier is also worth considering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    Other things to consider going against the Crosswind - Favorite ng ABSU (Anti Smoke Belching Unit) for pa-merienda, along with the L300 and Adventure.
    OT: was flagged down 2x (2 or 3 months interval) by ASBU along C5-Kalayaan and on both ocassion meron din ilang Crosswind units also flagged down. On both occasion, I was driving a 3-yr old Ford Ranger which I can say hindi naman mausok since periodically maintained in the casa. So baka may favoritism nga mga ABSU.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kabute13 View Post
    OT: was flagged down 2x (2 or 3 months interval) by ASBU along C5-Kalayaan and on both ocassion meron din ilang Crosswind units also flagged down. On both occasion, I was driving a 3-yr old Ford Ranger which I can say hindi naman mausok since periodically maintained in the casa. So baka may favoritism nga mga ABSU.
    Meron talagang favoritism... reminds me of someone who got flagged down in his L300... except his unit was a gas variant. Pahiya yung mga ABSU.

    Still doesn't take anything away from the fact na yung Crosswind and Adventures yung favorites ng ABSU.

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    You can't go wrong with the Mobilio/BR-V. I think the newer platform and safety features are worth it over the aging Crosswind. If you really want a diesel I'd recommend the base model Innova over the crosswind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ieddam View Post
    You can't go wrong with the Mobilio/BR-V. I think the newer platform and safety features are worth it over the aging Crosswind. If you really want a diesel I'd recommend the base model Innova over the crosswind.
    you have only six weeks to buy a new crosswind. after that, it'll have to be "used".

    if your passenger load is bigger (size and/or number), you CAN go wrong with the mobilio/brv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    May naoffend na dito sa pag bash sa crosswind

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    errr... what bash?

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    Innova talaga sana ang perfect for you. Too old na ang crosswind. +1 sa 1 or 2 yrs old innova

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    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    Innova talaga sana ang perfect for you. Too old na ang crosswind. +1 sa 1 or 2 yrs old innova

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    Pwede ba sa bank car loan ang second hand cars?

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    Among the 3 choices...

    I'm voting for the Crosswind... I think the top of the line should have a 7 seat configuration... I really hate the side facing 3rd row seats...

    Mobilio and BRV are great cars, but the Crosswind is just so old I don't expect anything to go wrong...

    Don't worry about it getting old... Mobilio was face-lifted... The BRV will also get an update soon... Making first gen models look old... Then an all new model will arrive...

    Crosswind... You're looking at the last model. They will stop selling it on Dec 31!

    Test drive all 3 with 4-5 passengers... Mobilio will drive like a car... BRV revs high... Crosswind will feel bouncy, engine will be brutal, but there's a weird feeling with a loaded AUV... And that weird feeling is why I'm voting for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    Among the 3 choices...

    I'm voting for the Crosswind... I think the top of the line should have a 7 seat configuration... I really hate the side facing 3rd row seats...

    Mobilio and BRV are great cars, but the Crosswind is just so old I don't expect anything to go wrong...

    Don't worry about it getting old... Mobilio was face-lifted... The BRV will also get an update soon... Making first gen models look old... Then an all new model will arrive...

    Crosswind... You're looking at the last model. They will stop selling it on Dec 31!

    Test drive all 3 with 4-5 passengers... Mobilio will drive like a car... BRV revs high... Crosswind will feel bouncy, engine will be brutal, but there's a weird feeling with a loaded AUV... And that weird feeling is why I'm voting for it

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    ohh nice perspective. Will do that this week para makatulong sa decision. Sadly, the Sportivo is beyond the budget. Hanggang XT lang ang kaya (3rd row side facing, 10-seater).

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    Quote Originally Posted by erebus View Post
    ohh nice perspective. Will do that this week para makatulong sa decision.
    note the vibration of the diesel vs the gas... and imagine sitting inside for 3hr with the vibration 🙃🙃🙃

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    note the vibration of the diesel vs the gas... and imagine sitting inside for 3hr with the vibration ������

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    Noted boss. Salamat!

    EDIT: Kahit pasok sa budget si Innova 2.0J Gas M/T, hindi ko pinapansin kasi sobrang kawawa nya sa features, yun ang tingin ko.

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