Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
"Sportronic" trannies (dual clutch trannies not included) are just manually shifted A/Ts and still do not have the same performance of true M/Ts.

But as a compromise between A/T and M/T in a single car, it can be satisfactory (but not all the time).

true, i've driven a lot of modern sportronic trannies, evoX mr, gt-r and c63 amg are the closest to an actual m/t when it comes to shifting, almost no lag when you shift manually, but they're still not as good as an m/t tranny.