Battle of the SUVs

[badsekktor]

I'm planning to get a replacement for my mitsu pajero

my options would be the Montero Sport, Ford Everest, a 2nd hand patrol, or a 2nd hand gen 3 mitsu pajero, isama na rin natin Fortuner.

I am more concerned with availability of parts, fuel consumption, "serious" off-roading capabilities, and decent acceleration (medyo sluggish yun acceleration ng lumang pajero)

So I would like to get insights from owners of these rigs to help me decide what to get.

[renzo_d10]

Since you`ll be using it on serious off-roading I`ll be staying away on second hand vehicles merely because of we don't know how did the previous owner used it.

He may have abused it in some sort of way, we don't know.

I`ll pick the Montero here. For sure, it can handle serious off-roading. And, you'll have less worry because your unit is BRAND NEW.

[kevin3000]

Fortuner! malakas din

[shadow3616931]

Kala ko open sa lahat ng SUV land rover sana ako

[ronw123w124]

Montero Sport

[tidus1203]

Ford Everest for "serious" off roading... Kung moderate off-roading Montero Sport ayos na... Fortuner, wag na!

[badsekktor]

hmm.... ok lets say bago na rin yun patrol and pajero....

hays! siguro dapat kabayo ang kunin ko para may sukli pa ko....

[renzo_d10]

Kunwari bago ang Patrol at Pajero, dun na ko sa current patrol.

[shadow3616931]

Ford Everest for "serious" off roading... Kung moderate off-roading Montero Sport ayos na... Fortuner, wag na!

ouch.... may fortuner ako, in fact malakas ang fort sa off roading heavy duty suspension nya and matibay.

hmm.... ok lets say bago na rin yun patrol and pajero....

pag sinama mo 2 yan sila nalang maglalaban yan talaga ang mga tunay na SUV, truck/pickup based lang yung the rest, sama mo narin LC 200...sa latter ako

[tidus1203]

I have nothing against the Fortuner, shadow. Kaso so its already too old and too common.

[niky]

"Brand New" and "Serious Off-roading" are terms you shouldn't put together... especially not if you're talking about 3 million peso vehicles.

The new Pajero is a unibody and isn't quite as suited for rugged off-road use as the old one. The Patrol (current, not the 2011 one that's coming soon) is probably the best full-sized off-roader amongst your choices, with twin live axles and a strong engine, but it's expensive.

If you're going secondhand, an old Everest 4x4 will do. The older, the better... the original Everest didn't have the complicated TDCi system, though it's about as sluggish as the Pajero FM. An early Everest 4x4 TDCi will do, also. Later ones have anti-roll bars that limit axle articulation off-road... though you could always disconnect these if you're going to go trailing.

[badsekktor]

"Brand New" and "Serious Off-roading" are terms you shouldn't put together... especially not if you're talking about 3 million peso vehicles.

The new Pajero is a unibody and isn't quite as suited for rugged off-road use as the old one. The Patrol (current, not the 2011 one that's coming soon) is probably the best full-sized off-roader amongst your choices, with twin live axles and a strong engine, but it's expensive.

If you're going secondhand, an old Everest 4x4 will do. The older, the better... the original Everest didn't have the complicated TDCi system, though it's about as sluggish as the Pajero FM. An early Everest 4x4 TDCi will do, also. Later ones have anti-roll bars that limit axle articulation off-road... though you could always disconnect these if you're going to go trailing.

I agree about the "brand new" and "serious off roading" will not jive well....
That is why I'm still hesitant to get a brand new unit. Anyway, I will be retaining my trusted old pajero for most of the off roading part.

[tc327]

for me Montero GLS SE 4X4 it can go off-roading

[sm2by]

^ +1 Montersport GLS SE 4x4...

[sm2by]

http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showt...t=70563&page=3
must read.... it involves a Toyota Fortuner.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZF8N9NItHI"][/ame]

[sm2by]

A reason why not to buy the Fortuner (Hilux-Based)....
and buy the Montersport (Strada L200 Based)....
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZF8N9NItHI"]YouTube- Toyota Hilux fails the Moose test[/ame]

[tsupermario]

pwede na sa akin ang montero sport 2.5 4x4 MT

[tidus1203]

Well regarding not buying the Fortuner simply because of that one accident is not conclusive. Given the Montero Sport's same profile with the Fortuner (high ride, low wheelbase, thin body) it could also happen to the Montero Sport in similar circumstances...

[agent_ysann]

Ford Everest for "serious" off roading... Kung moderate off-roading Montero Sport ayos na... Fortuner, wag na!

ouch.... may fortuner ako, in fact malakas ang fort sa off roading heavy duty suspension nya and matibay.

pag sinama mo 2 yan sila nalang maglalaban yan talaga ang mga tunay na SUV, truck/pickup based lang yung the rest, sama mo narin LC 200...sa latter ako

I have nothing against the Fortuner, shadow. Kaso so its already too old and too common.

ouch din... even if it's too old and too common that doesn't mean hindi na sya advisable bilhin...

i really like the Fortuner 4x4 because of its being full-time 4wd that returns fuel consumption equal to those of its competitors in 4x2 mode. pero i will be suggesting the Montero Sport 4x2 kay mama as her personal car... since nagiging common na rin ang Montero Sport, does that mean hindi na rin ba sya ok bilhin..?

[badsekktor]

how about those issues of recall on toyota units? do we have the same problems with toyota units here?

I mean in this country we have crappy consumer protection laws so I really doubt that design flaws would result to recalls......

right now i'm inclined to get a nissan patrol.... it seems it would suit my needs.... But I do like the mid size SUVs for parking convenience especially when going to malls....