Advice for some Luxury van or suv

**AgentUlod** · October 8th, 2011 09:54 PM

Double Post

**AgentUlod** · October 8th, 2011 10:02 PM

To those who suggested SUBURBAN. Why is the shift stick placed at the back of the steering wheel? Is it better than being placed beside the driver?

**sm2by** · October 8th, 2011 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by AgentUlod

To those who suggested SUBURBAN. Why is the shift stick placed at the back of the steering wheel? Is it better than being placed beside the driver?

Most Large American SUVs/Trucks have column mounted shifters, heck even older american cars (60s-80s era)....
The Suburban is based on the Chevrolet Silverado which is designed to have no transmission tunnels protruding in the middle of the front foot wells. They do this to increase the footwell area, making a roomier passenger space for the people who use the vehicles in Construction/Engineering work....

**jhnkvn** · October 9th, 2011 12:23 AM

Alphard. There's a reason why there's alot of them in Hong Kong.

Although, personally, Ford Expeditions are always the king of value at this price range for the amount of comfort and space you get. Use the other million for gas.

**AgentUlod** · October 9th, 2011 09:19 AM

Ok. They have sacrificed it for a better space. Well, which is better for the driver the column or the standard shifter?

**AgentUlod** · October 9th, 2011 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by jhnkvn

Alphard. There's a reason why there's alot of them in Hong Kong.

Although, personally, Ford Expeditions are always the king of value at this price range for the amount of comfort and space you get. Use the other million for gas.

Big No for the Alphard. IMO, Looks like an Adventure. But Interiors looks good, All are captain chairs. Dunno If I'm right, based on pictures it has a smaller width?
If you were to chose, Alphard or Starex Limo? Which is more classy?

**cripple_rooster** · October 9th, 2011 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by AgentUlod

To those who suggested SUBURBAN. Why is the shift stick placed at the back of the steering wheel? Is it better than being placed beside the driver?

It's because the shifter is shared with the Silverado, that has some versions fitted with bench seats, and then the collumn-shifter leaves more room for the passengers' legs.

**niky** · October 9th, 2011 11:42 PM

For big SUVs like this, with automatics, you don't really need to shift all that much. many Ford SUVs and vans also have column shifters.

The Alphard is more refined than the Starex Limo. It drives better, rides better, has more power, is quieter, has better plastics...

And it resembles an Adventure about as much as a Jeep Commander resembles a Jeepney... which is to say, not at all.

**guigui** · October 12th, 2011 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by AgentUlod

This might be dumb. Is there a mod which can lower the power of your car and decrease its fuel economy.
Technically. Looks ang habol namin. Hummer sana pede din 5 seater kaso, high consumption.

Sorry for the analogy. Sometime ago, someone here on tsikot commented, and it goes like: "What is more important on a car: performance or looks? It's like a girl choosing someone either with a big dork or good looks."

seriously though... with such a budget, there'd be no "fuel efficient" van/suv because a bigger body is equal to more weight to be tolled upon the engine which is the reason why manufacturers put a bigger engine on them, to the tune of 8-cylinders or lorry-quality diesel displacement.

tsaka po bawal ang text speak dito.

btt: if you lower the power of your big suv, the more it'll need a whole lot of fuel due to the weight. parang ito yung naging problema ng toyota lite-ace back in the 90s. it has a 1.5 liter ngunit dahil sa bigat ng kahang dinadala niya, kasing lakas o mas malakas pa sa 2.0 liter na mid-size sedan (noon) kung mangailangan ng gasolina. in simple terms: the thing in common between an under-powered car and an over-powered car is that they are both guzzlers.

to resolve this query, get a Php3M SUV and save the remaining Php1.5M for the maintenance.

p.s.

most american cars have a column-mounted shifters, not just suvs. ford crown victoria (the common police car in the US which is also the most common taxi car over there,) ford escape, i think even ford taurus are like that. heck, i think even a cadillac escalade (which paris hilton drives) and lincoln navigator also adopted such lay-out. you'll be surprised that even a range rover (which kenrda the playboy housemate drives.) and lincoln limousine, such as these: Abiso ng Redirect do have column-mounted transmission. i mean, don't compare it to L300. :D

**foresterx** · October 12th, 2011 08:35 AM

In my opinion if you're buying a luxury car you should be able to afford owning it not just because you can buy it doesn't mean you can afford owning it. When i say you can afford owning it that means you should be expecting paying higher for fuel, maintenance and parts. Bad FC, very expensive maintenance and parts should be expected when buying a luxury car. If you don't want those 3 get a car you can afford to own.